[SharkAA]

Yeah, defense so ''tough'' that Olympiakos put two past them. Juve lacks a big roster which have forced them to match their main 11 very hard all season long, and you can tell as the season drags on that it's starting to wear on several players. As for Juve's defense, their isn't a single team in the entire Seria A that has an offense that comes close to the offensive threat that Reus - Auba - Kagawa pose.

Both goals were headers and they were lucky to score 2 of them. While we're at it, Malmo didn't allow a single goal, nor did Atletico. It might just happen against Borussia, but the odds are very low. Elimination stage is different than group stage, so the comparisons aren't really legit.

[plekz]

No but Juve's history the last few years is, any way you try and slice it Dortmund is a bigger club then Juve is, and very rarely don't they get atleast ONE goal when they play away. And Atletico had no pressure to score at all when they played Juve, only to not allow Juve to do it.

And you even bringing up Malmo in the same sentence really only tells me you have run out of ammo and is scraping the bottom of the barrel. The tempo Dortmund brings to the table is something Juventus haven't experienced in quite a while and definetly something they aren't facing in Seria A.

1 - 2 or 2 - 1 either way.

[Rudeboy]

any way you try and slice it Dortmund is a bigger club then Juve is

Wait, you think Dortmund is a bigger club than Juventus? LMAO and he tells me I know nothing. Hilarious.

[plekz]

Wait,

In recent years, yeah. Juve struggled under Conte and with a more unforgiving group this time around they probably wouldn't have made it past the groupstages again. Historicly as in looking at the last say 20 years then ofc Juventus is the bigger club, but we aren't discussing to place bets on team lineups from the 80's or 90's here are we?

Infact Juve is preferably going to need a two goal margin with them (and sure as hell not one allowed against them) For them to not drown when they play @ Westfalenstadion.


Start a blog instead for your hurt feelings and just fk off permanently little man boy.

[pavyracer]

My father was born in Ireland I basically had a soccer ball in my fukken mouth at birth

I probably know more about soccer then 80% here

I don't bet it because the lines are too tight

Can you score an own goal from a goal kick Mr. Soccer Ball?

[jjgold]

Paver I do not play soccer

I would totally revamp this competition and have maybe mid and major soccer league winners compete in some sort of tourney format

[smithah2]

gawd your an Idiot
2nd shift JJ

anybody who's status involves another poster here yet acts like they despise that person is playing with cognitive dissonance. talk about secretly in love with the dude.

[Rudeboy]

Paver I do not play soccer

I would totally revamp this competition and have maybe mid and major soccer league winners compete in some sort of tourney format

jj ur old man was irish?

jj you have some influence here

jj get some soccer contests going

[pavyracer]

Paver I do not play soccer

I would totally revamp this competition and have maybe mid and major soccer league winners compete in some sort of tourney format

JJ this is the exact format of Champions League.

[SharkAA]

No but Juve's history the last few years is, any way you try and slice it Dortmund is a bigger club then Juve is, and very rarely don't they get atleast ONE goal when they play away. And Atletico had no pressure to score at all when they played Juve, only to not allow Juve to do it.

And you even bringing up Malmo in the same sentence really only tells me you have run out of ammo and is scraping the bottom of the barrel. The tempo Dortmund brings to the table is something Juventus haven't experienced in quite a while and definetly something they aren't facing in Seria A.

1 - 2 or 2 - 1 either way.

Look, I'm just not a fan of exposing, what happened in the group stage. You did that and I proved to you, why Juventus-Olympiakos game is irrelevant here. There's little correlation between those 2 stages.
In my opinion, if there's going to be a room for counterattacks on both sides, mixing it up with some mistakes on defense or referee's bullshyt decisions, then we just might see more than 2.5 goals. If it's going to be a slow paced game, mixing it up with allowing 0 to little mistakes on defense and no bad referee's decisions, then the game will probably have less than 2.5 goals.

[plekz]

Look, I'm just not a fan of exposing, what happened in the group stage. You did that and I proved to you, why Juventus-Olympiakos game is irrelevant here. There's little correlation between those 2 stages.
In my opinion, if there's going to be a room for counterattacks on both sides, mixing it up with some mistakes on defense or referee's bullshyt decisions, then we just might see more than 2.5 goals. If it's going to be a slow paced game, mixing it up with allowing 0 to little mistakes on defense and no bad referee's decisions, then the game will probably have less than 2.5 goals.

Give me examples of games where Dortmund have EVER played that kind of Football, they relish in playing on the counter, and the best way to describe the way they play is probably the word Blitzkrieg, and fact remains that Juventus is nowhere near used to the sort of tempo Dortmund brings to the games.

And beside all that Juventus can't afford to hang back here, since they'll need atleast two, so it's a very fine balance between them holding their line back to protect while just pushing high enough to still create.

Dortmund are not an easy team to keep to zero, and it's quite evident they are finding form again after the disastrous fall they had. Dortmund have never in their life played slow paced Football, and considering how lethal they are it would be a mistake on Juves part to try and play it like that, Juve wants to win by two so that Dortmund are forced to be the ballcarrying team in the Westfalen fixture while Juve just lay low and press because that's not how Dortmund are used to playing.

And you haven't ''proven'' anything, you saying Olympiakos was ''lucky'' to get not one but TWO headers is borderline retardation if anything and makes you sound like the common tout who cries after the fact about ''luck'' and bullsh!t ref calls. Looking at Juventus Seria A compaign even in the derbys or against lower ranked teams they've had a very hard time keeping teams at bay from scoring on them.

Oh, and please don't bring up Malmo again.

[aliciav]

Manchester City - Barcelona : Manchester City DNB or No Bet! City will attack, and come on top.

That's what im hoping! City DNB is the safer way to play it.

[SBR Natalie]

Arsenal vs Monaco

[gigicash]

That's what im hoping! City DNB is the safer way to play it.

[SharkAA]

Give me examples of games where Dortmund have EVER played that kind of Football, they relish in playing on the counter, and the best way to describe the way they play is probably the word Blitzkrieg, and fact remains that Juventus is nowhere near used to the sort of tempo Dortmund brings to the games.

And beside all that Juventus can't afford to hang back here, since they'll need atleast two, so it's a very fine balance between them holding their line back to protect while just pushing high enough to still create. Dortmund are not an easy team to keep to zero, and it's quite evident they are finding form again after the disastrous fall they had. Dortmund have never in their life played slow paced Football, and considering how lethal they are it would be a mistake on Juves part to try and play it like that, Juve wants to win by two so that Dortmund are forced to be the ballcarrying team in the Westfalen fixture while Juve just lay low and press because that's not how Dortmund are used to playing.

And you haven't ''proven'' anything, you saying Olympiakos was ''lucky'' to get not one but TWO headers is borderline retardation if anything and makes you sound like the common tout who cries after the fact about ''luck'' and bullsh!t ref calls. Looking at Juventus Seria A compaign even in the derbys or against lower ranked teams they've had a very hard time keeping teams at bay from scoring on them.

Oh, and please don't bring up Malmo again.

Juve will have to dictate the pace of the game, otherwise they will get 'trucked' by counterattacks from Borussia. They don't stand a chance, if they're going to have to play with a diluted defense.
About the Olympiakos game: when was the last time this season, that Juve got 2 goals from the headers besides in that game? Don't worry, I'll wait... It's just a rare occasion that happened to them.
And I don't cry about 'luck' or bullshyt referee's decisions, let's get that right. It's just standard variance in soccer. And I can't ignore the fact that these things don't happen, so I have to take them into the account, but I definitely won't bitch about it.

[plekz]

Juve will have to dictate the pace of the game, otherwise they will get 'trucked' by counterattacks from Borussia. They don't stand a chance, if they're going to have to play with a diluted defense.
About the Olympiakos game: when was the last time this season, that Juve got 2 goals from the headers besides in that game? Don't worry, I'll wait... It's just a rare occasion that happened to them.
And I don't cry about 'luck' or bullshyt referee's decisions, let's get that right. It's just standard variance in soccer. And I can't ignore the fact that these things don't happen, so I have to take them into the account, but I definitely won't bitch about it.

Or they faced a team who in their own league scores alot of goals from headers. Since that's the kind of Football Olympiakos plays, lots of crosses into the box and with several people in their main 11 who are good at headers. Marchishio, Pogba and Vidal can hang Pirlo and Pereyra are the weak links in Juve's midfield (Pogba aswell at times since he tends to press a bit high)

They are also starting Lichsteiner tonight over Caceres which i think is a mistake, and Bonucci and Chielini are gonna have to be flawless to keep Auba,Reus and Kagawa silent. Personally i think Lichsteiner will struggle on his side.

[SharkAA]

Or they faced a team who in their own league scores alot of goals from headers. Since that's the kind of Football Olympiakos plays, lots of crosses into the box and with several people in their main 11 who are good at headers. Marchishio, Pogba and Vidal can hang Pirlo and Pereyra are the weak links in Juve's midfield (Pogba aswell at times since he tends to press a bit high)

They are also starting Lichsteiner tonight over Caceres which i think is a mistake, and Bonucci and Chielini are gonna have to be flawless to keep Auba,Reus and Kagawa silent. Personally i think Lichsteiner will struggle on his side.

Ok so, I'm guessing you like Borussia to win maybe? Or do you expect a draw in this game?

[plekz]

I think if we see a draw it'll be a 0 - 0 affair, and if we see goals it'll be 2 - 1 or 1 - 2 to either side.

[aliciav]

Interesting read on why to back Man City to win: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/socc...world-a-54506/

[GotGreek]

fuckin mushmouth over here, cant even watch the vids

[AlexBoomBet]

What do you think about City vs Barca? Me personally i believe that it will be an open match with alot of goals because City will not stay on the defence and try to react, but Barca will dominate the possession of the ball like they usually do, and we will have a great match. I expect Aguero and Suarez to score.

[gigicash]

What do you think about City vs Barca? Me personally i believe that it will be an open match with alot of goals because City will not stay on the defence and try to react, but Barca will dominate the possession of the ball like they usually do, and we will have a great match. I expect Aguero and Suarez to score.

Barca will try to dominate the possession in their own half/midfield, avoid losing the ball for most part and control the game like that, scoreless would be a dream for them, but it won't last long. I believe we will see some new defensive & attacking tactics from both teams and Man City to come on top. gl

[plekz]

Ciro Immobile, Jakub Blaszczykowski, Sebastian Kehl, Sven Bender, Erik Durm, and Mats Hummels are doubtful for the game. Mikhtarian is not 100% fit , he is not the player from last year.

Is a great debate, let's enjoy the game tomorrow

Best of luck guys

Weidenfeller - Piszczek, Sokratis, Hummels, Schmelzer - Gündogan, Sahin - Mkhitaryan, Reus, Aubameyang - Immobile

Auf der Bank: // On the bench: Langerak, Ginter, Kirch, Kagawa, Kuba, Kehl, Ramos #juvebvb#UCL

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Great call genius.

[Rudeboy]

Hummels is playing?!??!!

Dortmund are fukked

Everyone put yar mortgage on the old lady

[plekz]

19 minutes for 1 - 1, hey Nat, where the fk do you people find these clowns and how much are they forced to pay you?

I love Dortmund , i am a big fan , i am watching every game i know everything regarding this team, but betting is another field, you dont bet with the heart. Dortmund will miss alot of key players, and Reus , Augbameyang and Gundogan are not enough infront a brutal defense that Juventus has. 3 wins in a row are not enough for Dortmund, and the last win was with alooot of luck if you saw the game. Pogba and Tevez served by Pirlo from the back will make the difference in this match. Shortly the video will be on up and you can check more stuff and infos there.
Best of luck

Yeah, superdefensedexlue from Juve. Typical tout.

[SBR Natalie]

19 minutes for 1 - 1, hey Nat, where the fk do you people find these clowns and how much are they forced to pay you?













Yeah, superdefensedexlue from Juve. Typical tout.

What are you talking about - Alex got 75% of his tips right today!

Juve vs Dortmund FT: 2-1
2nd tip: Under 2.5 goals 1.73 - missed
1st tip: Juve to win 2.1 - HIT

Manchester City vs Barca FT: 1-2
2nd tip: Barca to win 2.15 - HIT
1st tip: BTTS and Over 2.5 goals 1.95 - HIT

Not bad I'd say!

[SharkAA]

19 minutes for 1 - 1, hey Nat, where the fk do you people find these clowns and how much are they forced to pay you?













Yeah, superdefensedexlue from Juve. Typical tout.

Nice call on the OVER 2.5, but why do you have to be such a jerk?

[SBR Natalie]

Nice call on the OVER 2.5, but why do you have to be such a jerk?

Exactly!

[Rudeboy]

Everyone ignore him after tonight hes barreled in

[SBR Natalie]

I expect Aguero and Suarez to score.

[cogiditopapa]

What do you think about City vs Barca? Me personally i believe that it will be an open match with alot of goals because City will not stay on the defence and try to react, but Barca will dominate the possession of the ball like they usually do, and we will have a great match. I expect Aguero and Suarez to score.

Thanks for the inside Alex, great picks! Cheers

[whareouttogetme]

That was a nice hit.

Was just saying in another thread, saw an enhanced odds offer of Tevez, Aguero and Messi to all score. Would have been gutted with that missed penalty

[whareouttogetme]

Nice call on the OVER 2.5, but why do you have to be such a jerk?

Under 2.5 was a good pick IMO, even if it lost. Who the hell could have capped that mistake by Chiellini?

[Doughboy22]

Had the over 2.5 live ready to submit and they scored as i was pushing enter... froze on me no bet.. decided to put the over 3.5 at +120... faking messi

[plekz]

Nice call on the OVER 2.5, but why do you have to be such a jerk?

Because i absolutley ditest Touts, and tout like behavior. Talking about how ''strong'' Juve's defense is and then watching them making mistakes and losing the ball constantly in midfield is laughable. As is talking about 6 plus players possibly being out and using this in your ''capping'' and then come gametime 1 out of the 6 is missing.

If you bang your chest beforehand and talk about how well you ''know'' the team then yeah a piece of pie will probably only do you good. I also think it's very irresponsible on SBR's part having ''cappers'' talking out of their ass on some ''pick show'' considering with 5 minutes of googling you can easily confirm (and it has been known since Klopp picked his squad to travel) that the only one that would be missing out was in fact Bender and Durm.