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    The Bears Just Became the Second Team in NFL History to...

    ...allow at least 50 points in back-to-back games! The other one was those immortal 1923 Rochester Jeffersons.

    I guess the bye week after New England did not help?

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    To me, it falls back on coaching. It means they studied the film, made adjustments, but in the end had no answers.

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    That didn't happen to the guy they ran out on a rail? I thought that is why they fired Lovie smith. He could not get them over the hump. Now the hump is mount Everett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    ...allow at least 50 points in back-to-back games! The other one was those immortal 1923 Rochester Jeffersons.

    I guess the bye week after New England did not help?
    Sure it did, it helped Green Bay demolish them. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    That didn't happen to the guy they ran out on a rail? I thought that is why they fired Lovie smith. He could not get them over the hump. Now the hump is mount Everett.
    The transition from CFL to the NFL is like climbing mount Everest. Marv Levy did it once, but that was 35 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    ...allow at least 50 points in back-to-back games! The other one was those immortal 1923 Rochester Jeffersons.

    I guess the bye week after New England did not help?
    And Brandon Marshall was saying on his Inside the NFL show he does that " guys came back to work happy and had a great week of practice". I don't understand with all that offensive talent that they can't score and move the ball consistently. Has Cutler got that bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer62 View Post
    Has Cutler got that bad?
    Why do people lay this all on Cutler? CHI is bad from top to bottom. Put Brady or Peyton @ QB, it wouldn't help much.

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    You serious, they have a lot of talent on offense but Cutler seems to have a bad attitude. No leadership qualities. Peyton or Brady would excel with that offense. I know the defense is bad but the offense should be out scoring more of their opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Why do people lay this all on Cutler? CHI is bad from top to bottom. Put Brady or Peyton @ QB, it wouldn't help much.
    Because they have Pro Bowl caliber talent with Forte at running back and Marshall & Jeffery at WR. They simply HAVE to be better than they have been offensively with those guys so yes, it does fall on Cutler. He had like 9 turnovers himself the previous five games before last night and he added some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Because they have Pro Bowl caliber talent with Forte at running back and Marshall & Jeffery at WR. They simply HAVE to be better than they have been offensively with those guys so yes, it does fall on Cutler. He had like 9 turnovers himself the previous five games before last night and he added some more.
    Some truth, but the defense is so bad they literally could not stop either NE or GB once. To keep up they'd have to score a TD every time. And then when you don't you fall so far behind that you're pressing and have no chance. The blown coverages were so comical it looked like a high school game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Why do people lay this all on Cutler? CHI is bad from top to bottom. Put Brady or Peyton @ QB, it wouldn't help much.
    This isn't just a load of crap, its a big steaming pile of crap. Keep taking any and all accountability away from Cutler, after all he does the same thing. At one point they showed Marshall and Jeffrey standing together on the sideline and the look on their faces said it all. They WISH they had AR throwing them the ball. Hell, at this point they wish they had McCown throwing them the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Because they have Pro Bowl caliber talent with Forte at running back and Marshall & Jeffery at WR. They simply HAVE to be better than they have been offensively with those guys so yes, it does fall on Cutler. He had like 9 turnovers himself the previous five games before last night and he added some more.
    Compare Cutler's stats with someone like Foles, Dalton or Eli. Not every team gets to have a Brady or Peyton.

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    I would think that should be automatic firing of head coach

    Players quit on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Some truth, but the defense is so bad they literally could not stop either NE or GB once. To keep up they'd have to score a TD every time. And then when you don't you fall so far behind that you're pressing and have no chance. The blown coverages were so comical it looked like a high school game.
    Last I checked the Packer defense wasn't getting confused with the steel curtain. This is the same team that put up 500+ yards against the Packers earlier and came away with only 17 points. Three more turnovers for Cutler, but I'm sure none of that was his fault. Any chance they can sign him to a 10 year extension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meader99 View Post
    This isn't just a load of crap, its a big steaming pile of crap. Keep taking any and all accountability away from Cutler, after all he does the same thing. At one point they showed Marshall and Jeffrey standing together on the sideline and the look on their faces said it all. They WISH they had AR throwing them the ball. Hell, at this point they wish they had McCown throwing them the ball.
    Every team wished the had AR or Joe Montana or whoever. Guess what? They aren't available. McCown? Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Compare Cutler's stats with someone like Foles, Dalton or Eli. Not every team gets to have a Brady or Peyton.
    And I'd bet Cutler's stats are worse than the guys you mentioned over the last six games. He has been beyond dreadful, 12 turnovers now in six games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    To me, it falls back on coaching. It means they studied the film, made adjustments, but in the end had no answers.
    You think the coach told the DBs to literally watch the WRs go by them? Nah.
    That secondary was torched. I don't know how you suddenly make bad players become good just because you look at some film.
    skill is skill, doesn't matter who's coaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Every team wished the had AR or Joe Montana or whoever. Guess what? They aren't available. McCown? Please.
    Ok, keep Cutler and defend him. Bottom line is he is not a leader and has a loser attitude. Fuking McCown got a very nice contract with TB when he excelled with that Bear offense. And LT is right, he turns the ball over way too much and the QB is accountable for that offense,looks like the team dislikes playing for him. Cutler has one of the best arms in football but is a head case, nothing else you say can dispute that!! Bring back McCown.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    And I'd bet Cutler's stats are worse than the guys you mentioned over the last six games. He has been beyond dreadful, 12 turnovers now in six games.
    Eli had 5 picks in one game less than a year ago. Good players can have rough patches.

    I'm not saying Cutler belongs in the HOF or anything, but there's plenty of blame to go around in CHI, including up top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer62 View Post
    Ok, keep Cutler and defend him. Bottom line is he is not a leader and has a loser attitude. Fuking McCown got a very nice contract with TB when he excelled with that Bear offense. And LT is right, he turns the ball over way too much and the QB is accountable for that offense,looks like the team dislikes playing for him. Cutler has one of the best arms in football but is a head case, nothing else you say can dispute that!! Bring back McCown.....
    McCown is a backup, TB was stupid to pay him. If you think McCown is better than Cutler, I have nothing more to say.

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    Cutler is the laughing stock of the nfl. As a bears fan I was against them signing him to that big contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Cutler is the laughing stock of the nfl. As a bears fan I was against them signing him to that big contract.
    Do you have a link to the thread were you said that? Not calling you out, but would be a fun read.

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    Its that thread about cutler signing that contract extension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Its that thread about cutler signing that contract extension.
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...contracts.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Its that thread about cutler signing that contract extension.
    Yeah, extending a franchise QB is sometimes a tough call. But switching to McCown wasn't an answer either.

    Reading some old threads, it sounds like Cutler might have a "Ryan Leaf" complex, he just rubs teammates the wrong way. I still maintain that the right coaching infrastructure would take some off that political pressure off the shoulders of the starting QB, he's got enough to worry about as it is.

    I keep coming back to Eli, it's not like he's a beacon of emotional inspiration for the team, but the maturity of that coaching staff is able to keep the emotions in the locker room to a simmer somehow. People are rumbling about Coughlin, but he might be the only thing holding that team together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Yeah, extending a franchise QB is sometimes a tough call. But switching to McCown wasn't an answer either.

    Reading some old threads, it sounds like Cutler might have a "Ryan Leaf" complex, he just rubs teammates the wrong way. I still maintain that the right coaching infrastructure would take some off that political pressure off the shoulders of the starting QB, he's got enough to worry about as it is.

    I keep coming back to Eli, it's not like he's a beacon of emotional inspiration for the team, but the maturity of that coaching staff is able to keep the emotions in the locker room to a simmer somehow. People are rumbling about Coughlin, but he might be the only thing holding that team together.
    Does Eli have pro bowl receivers and a top 3 dual threat running back at his disposal? Until he does, you can't even compare the two situations. Half the QBs in the league would die to play with those weapons.

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    heard something at some point during the game

    at one point last night the Packers hit a streak of 16 straight possessions against the bears that ended up like this

    16 possessions
    13 TD's
    2FGS
    1 missed FG


    zero punts and zero turnover on downs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    heard something at some point during the game

    at one point last night the Packers hit a streak of 16 straight possessions against the bears that ended up like this

    16 possessions
    13 TD's
    2FGS
    1 missed FG


    zero punts and zero turnover on downs
    That was all Cutler's fault, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    That was all Cutler's fault, of course.
    Maybe if cutler did something remotely close he wouldn't be shit on so much

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    Well if he didn't commit so many turnovers and actually moved the chains with some drives, scored some points with all those weapons like McCown did then maybe the defense would play better and not be on the field all day. And it seems more and more that Cutler is detrimental to this team...

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    Ok Cutler haters, maybe you're starting to convince me. MIN+3 looking good @CHI next week? Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Ok Cutler haters, maybe you're starting to convince me. MIN+3 looking good @CHI next week? Thoughts?
    Bears have quit. Apparently Briggs sleeps in team meetings. Don't know about backing the Vikes, but how could you put any faith in a team that has mailed it in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meader99 View Post
    Bears have quit. Apparently Briggs sleeps in team meetings. Don't know about backing the Vikes, but how could you put any faith in a team that has mailed it in?
    I'm starting to lean towards MIN, coming off a bye, Norv should be able to show Teddy the holes that Rodgers saw.

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    Bears have no heart. You cant get blown away in a primetime game like that and come back and win.

    Vikings will smash them

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