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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    bol...I'm not on this play, but value your logic, post #19. But I did run this query and I got 19-2 (ATS) 16-5 (SU) since 1990. Average line (-.7). Browns got them in '08, 27-29 as 5 pt. favs, and Bengals got them in 2011 as 3pt favs. Wanted to see how they did non conference, 6-1 SU and 7-0 ATS...

    Bol of luck for those on this game! Just not enough for me too play it!

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    Good call JMon. Always solid thinking!

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    road team: Kansas City : current rating = 22.86, last_3_delta = +14.66, ATS record: 3- 1, O/U: 2/ 3
    home team: San Diego : current rating = 27.33, last_3_delta = + 0.55, ATS record: 5- 1, O/U: 3/ 3

    San Diego favored by 4.0
    over/under: 45.0

    ***

    Kansas City road ATS record: 2- 0
    San Diego home ATS record: 3- 0

    Kansas City home sched rating: 17.53, ave MoV: 5.50
    Kansas City road sched rating: 24.34, ave MoV: 2.33

    San Diego home sched rating: 15.56, ave MoV: 19.67
    San Diego road sched rating: 17.63, ave MoV: 4.67

    Kansas City home/road ratings: 21.05 / 29.22
    San Diego home/road ratings: 34.21 / 26.50

    Kansas City ave points for/against/combined: 23.80 / 20.20 / 44.00
    San Diego ave points for/against/combined: 27.33 / 15.17 / 42.50

    Kansas City home points for/against/combined: 25.50 / 20.00 / 45.50
    Kansas City road points for/against/combined: 22.67 / 20.33 / 43.00
    San Diego home points for/against/combined: 31.33 / 11.67 / 43.00
    San Diego road points for/against/combined: 23.33 / 18.67 / 42.00


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    head-to-head history (lined games):

    12/29/2013 Kansas City 24 +10.0 at San Diego 27
    11/24/2013 San Diego 41 + 4.5 at Kansas City 38
    11/ 1/2012 Kansas City 13 + 8.0 at San Diego 31
    9/30/2012 San Diego 37 - 1.0 at Kansas City 20
    10/31/2011 San Diego 20 - 3.0 at Kansas City 23
    9/25/2011 Kansas City 17 +14.5 at San Diego 20
    12/12/2010 Kansas City 0 + 7.0 at San Diego 31
    9/13/2010 San Diego 14 - 4.5 at Kansas City 21
    11/29/2009 Kansas City 14 +13.5 at San Diego 43
    10/25/2009 San Diego 37 - 6.0 at Kansas City 7
    12/14/2008 San Diego 22 - 6.0 at Kansas City 21
    11/ 9/2008 Kansas City 19 +15.0 at San Diego 20
    12/ 2/2007 San Diego 24 - 4.5 at Kansas City 10
    9/30/2007 Kansas City 30 +13.0 at San Diego 16
    12/17/2006 Kansas City 9 + 9.0 at San Diego 20
    10/22/2006 San Diego 27 - 4.5 at Kansas City 30
    12/24/2005 San Diego 7 + 1.0 at Kansas City 20
    10/30/2005 Kansas City 20 + 4.5 at San Diego 28
    1/ 2/2005 Kansas City 17 - 1.5 at San Diego 24
    11/28/2004 San Diego 34 + 2.5 at Kansas City 31
    11/30/2003 Kansas City 28 - 7.5 at San Diego 24
    9/ 7/2003 San Diego 14 + 3.5 at Kansas City 27
    12/22/2002 San Diego 22 + 4.0 at Kansas City 24
    10/13/2002 Kansas City 34 + 3.0 at San Diego 35
    12/23/2001 San Diego 17 + 3.5 at Kansas City 20
    11/ 4/2001 Kansas City 25 + 6.5 at San Diego 20
    11/26/2000 Kansas City 16 - 3.5 at San Diego 17
    9/17/2000 San Diego 10 + 4.5 at Kansas City 42
    10/31/1999 San Diego 0 + 6.0 at Kansas City 34
    10/ 3/1999 Kansas City 14 + 0.0 at San Diego 21
    11/22/1998 Kansas City 37 - 4.0 at San Diego 38
    9/20/1998 San Diego 7 + 9.5 at Kansas City 23
    12/14/1997 Kansas City 29 - 9.5 at San Diego 7
    10/16/1997 San Diego 3 + 5.5 at Kansas City 31
    11/24/1996 San Diego 28 + 5.5 at Kansas City 14
    9/29/1996 Kansas City 19 + 2.0 at San Diego 22
    11/12/1995 Kansas City 22 + 1.0 at San Diego 7
    10/ 9/1995 San Diego 23 + 3.5 at Kansas City 29
    11/13/1994 San Diego 14 + 3.0 at Kansas City 13
    10/ 9/1994 Kansas City 6 + 1.5 at San Diego 20
    12/19/1993 San Diego 24 + 8.5 at Kansas City 28
    10/17/1993 Kansas City 17 - 4.0 at San Diego 14
    1/ 2/1993 Kansas City 0 + 3.0 at San Diego 17
    11/ 8/1992 San Diego 14 + 6.0 at Kansas City 16
    9/ 6/1992 Kansas City 24 - 2.5 at San Diego 10
    12/ 8/1991 San Diego 17 + 9.0 at Kansas City 20
    9/29/1991 Kansas City 14 - 3.5 at San Diego 13
    12/23/1990 Kansas City 24 - 3.0 at San Diego 21
    11/18/1990 San Diego 10 + 3.5 at Kansas City 27

    average outcome:
    Kansas City 21.2 San Diego 20.7
    margin = -0.59

    time-weighted average outcome:
    Kansas City 19.4 San Diego 27.7
    margin = 8.34

    average result when the home team is San Diego
    Kansas City 18.9 San Diego 21.8
    margin = 2.96

    average result when the home team is Kansas City
    San Diego 19.4 Kansas City 23.7
    margin = 4.29

    43.48 % of games went Over
    37.50 % went Over at San Diego

    average total points per game = 41.90
    time-weighted average total = 47.04

    the home team covered 56.25 % of the time
    the road team covered 43.75 % of the time
    Ave ATS differential = 1.05

    the favorite covered 44.68 % of the time
    the underdog covered 55.32 % of the time
    Ave ATS differential = 1.86

    the favorite won SU 72.92 % of the time

    Kansas City covered 43.75 % of the time
    San Diego covered 56.25 % of the time

    San Diego covered 62.50 % of the time at home
    San Diego covered 53.33 % of the time as home favorites


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    similar games:

    12/ 4/2011 Atlanta 10 - 1.0 at Houston 17
    9/ 8/2011 New Orleans 34 + 4.0 at Green Bay 42
    12/27/2010 New Orleans 17 + 2.5 at Atlanta 14
    12/26/2010 NY Giants 17 + 3.0 at Green Bay 45
    12/ 5/2004 Denver 17 + 3.0 at San Diego 20
    10/19/2003 New England 19 + 6.0 at Miami 13
    10/12/2003 Carolina 23 + 5.0 at Indianapolis 20
    9/22/2003 Oakland 10 + 3.5 at Denver 31
    1/27/2002 New England 24 + 7.5 at Pittsburgh 17
    9/22/1996 Denver 14 + 5.0 at Kansas City 17
    11/ 8/1992 Pittsburgh 20 + 7.0 at Buffalo 28

    mean score road team 18.6 home team 24.0

    average point spread = + 4.1

    the home team covered 50.00 % of the time
    the road team covered 50.00 % of the time
    ave ATS Differential = 1.35

    the favorite covered 40.00 % of the time
    the underdog covered 60.00 % of the time
    ave ATS Differential = -0.25

    the favorite won SU 54.55 % of the time

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    thanks gl

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    It must?
    Why?
    Because you said so?

    Let's see, both teams play each other twice a year, the sample size here is 23 games, two divided by 23 is.....?
    You do the math
    Yeah but does that count when NE played BUF in the playo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougsky17 View Post
    Yeah but does that count when NE played BUF in the playo.....
    Good one.

    Made me laugh, but my point is, the trend says Bills play well against crappy teams after playing New England.
    But based soley on that fact, and that fact alone, doesn't mean you should run out and bet the farm on Buffalo.

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    What you can handicap is Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller getting carted off the field in a wheelbarrel in the first half alone.

    What's next Carpenter going to pull a groin on a FG attempt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    What you can handicap is Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller getting carted off the field in a wheelbarrel in the first half alone.

    What's next Carpenter going to pull a groin on a FG attempt?
    But you didn't handicap the game. You followed a trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    But you didn't handicap the game. You followed a trend.
    Did you fail reading comprehension you miseralbe trolling prick?
    Go back to the part where I said I was already on Buffalo (which is a loser today, oh well, shit happens, can't win them all) before I spotted this trend.

    Post 1
    Sentence 6

    Right there, very first post.
    How can you miss it.

    If trolling was an Olympic sport, you and Leetreaper would be gold medalists with your pictures on Wheatie boxes and everything.

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    SBR at it's finest, one poster worse than another, priceless

    Check out PT posts: 2 lakerboy posts are losers, this one, I see 1 on Lions, Was Huskies still there from yesterday, fukking free money EVERYWHERE....and like this EVERYDAY

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    ^
    Says the troller that got laughed off how many forums?
    Hmmm, and over at 2+2, let's see what they have to say.
    Let me get the links.

    Did you miss the post where I popped a dime on GB TT o27.5?

    Carry on.

    I'm still laughing at all the posts that f'n murdered you from other forums you got laughed off of.
    Gimme a few minutes, I'll post them here.

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    problem with handicapping football is injuries and turnovers
    It probably hurts more than any other sport and comes into play more than any other sport

    Nashy give us something tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Nashy give us something tonight
    Chalk city
    Broncs

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    Nashy u cost me $110 but I forgive you

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    Bottom line, they didn't cover the spread. I didn't see anybody taking Buff. ML???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    Bottom line, they didn't cover the spread. I didn't see anybody taking Buff. ML???
    Bottom line they did not.
    And no, did not want to lay 2:1 on ML, but was tempted, but I don't like to lay anything more than -130.

    Ever notice it's miserable air bettors that troll threads by the way
    No Mag, that was not directed at you.

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    I know its hard Nashy but don't let it get to you man. I personally do not subscribe to the trend betting (yes I know you liked them prior to seeing the trend) but fuk the haters. 98% of us are too scared to post anything in players talk so it's guys like you that keep it going

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    It's only one game. U will get the next one and no one will say a word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    It's only one game. U will get the next one and no one will say a word.
    Had GB TT o27.5 LARGE
    (and I'm a tight wad)
    People can call me whatever they want for the next month for all I care)
    That one was SCREAMING a dime bet, looked at the defense, said to myself "don't overthink this, Rodgers is going to shred that defense"

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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    It's called "average to the mean"

    Congrats on your winning season. Do it over 10 or 20 years.
    You completely miss the point. There are many ways to use SDQL correctly, many don't.

    Your "system" should have a premise, a good sample size, and consistent year to year success. I use SDQL and Bet Labs for the 4 major sports and NCAA F/B. I had my best basketball season ever last year, my baseball has been profitable, and football very good.

    Its not "average to the mean". If you think every game will revert back to the mean, you truly don't understand sports wagering or the psychology of sports.

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    The Bills will win a lot of games this year NFL guru Rex Ryan at the helms.

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