[T4TRUTH]

ok so you hit a bet that goes over 599 just like at the track and then what you are at the mercy of a 1099 or w2 for those winnings.
many will stay with local book to remain tax free. no point to winning and paying the taxes. nobody likes it who gambles for real.
square action yes will attract but serious gambling cannot see it. w2 a real pain in the A** when it comes to april... of course many will try and then learn the hard way, that when you win you have to prove where the money is come april and where the money came from in the first place.

[jjgold]

ok so you hit a bet that goes over 599 just like at the track and then what you are at the mercy of a 1099 or w2 for those winnings.
many will stay with local book to remain tax free. no point to winning and paying the taxes. nobody likes it who gambles for real.
square action yes will attract but serious gambling cannot see it. w2 a real pain in the A** when it comes to april... of course many will try and then learn the hard way, that when you win you have to prove where the money is come april and where the money came from in the first place.

Will be more bookies

Vegas loaded with locals

[ByeShea]

Hello Ladies...

Big Daddy backatcha.

In honor of NJ legalizing sports gambling (the first ENTIRE state to do so ever!) Big Daddy has decided to come down here and
bequeath you with an entire SEASON'S full of free picks. Well, the rest of the season anyway. Now, those of you who remember me
from Tradesports know I NEVER lose. Well, almost never, anyway.

This is an exciting time for sports gamblers. A lot of people live very far from Vegas. But, New Jersey is just a hop, skip and a jump.
So, I have come in, right in the swirling madness of all this excitement, to re-visit you for the first time in years (more or less) and
drop some hot knowledge on you.

A couple ground rules...

First of all, I OWN the NFL. And, if you play my picks, you will OWN the NFL as well.
Secondly, some of my picks are very traditional -110 plays. But some are a little more exotic.
You should not let that bother you and, by all means, don't listen to all the so-called 'experts' in here, who pooh-pooh certain
bets because they think they don't have enough...brace for it...'ev.' As if that's not an ENTIRELY subjective notion.
Besides, there are NO experts in here. (Save Big Daddy, of course.) If they know how to win THAT frequently, do you think
they'd be rubbing shoulders with all the degenerate low-life types that so often populate this joint.

So, why is Big Daddy here. Well, first off, I HAVEN'T been here. For years (save a handful of instances.)
Secondly, I believe in redemption. That is to say, ANYONE can be redeemed from being a degenerate.
Finally, as mentioned, I am here as a present to you, celebrating a great move by a REPUBLICAN Governor that may
have some serious impact on the way you conduct your business going forward.

But, enough with the introductions, on with the plays.
BTW, my plays come from a mix of proprietary algorithms generated by using high speed teraflop mps computers, stress tested by high
frequency simulation, refined using PhD level large volume statistical analysis and, of course, by throwing in the occasional BRIBE here and there.

So, without further adieu, and before you decide you don't...

Our first play of this our inaugural SBR Forum Football Season is -

FADE Eastern Michigan University

That's right girls.

The play is on UMass at home. Eastern might as well be playing UMICH (glory day era) as UMASS as they are going to get their umASS's kicked all over the field.

Go with 5Dimes, Big Daddy's recommended outlet (until Gov Christie's program revs up in earnest.)

Using their reduced juice table, you can get UMASS - 14 (-107) PUT A TON on this one
Also, open up a FIVE team ML parlay (also available at 5Dimes) and put in UMASS (-525)

This is your first play. More to come. And all fast, free and friendly just like before.

Get ready for a great ride!

Whooooooooooo!

Anyone have the cliff notes to Big Mouthy's speech?

[jjgold]

Its amazing though how offshores still as far as betting options are 10x better than Vegas
Technology 10x better also

[mmaed]

I'm an hour away from Mohegan Sun in Ct and they are ready to roll, Mohegan Sun is just waiting for the word. They are the best casino bar none outside of Vegas, and run and managed by the best too.

Saved Resorts ass in AC

Im also in ct. How do you know mohegan is ready to roll on sportsbetting?

[bobbywaves]

Anyone have the cliff notes to Big Mouthy's speech?

Yes...take Umass large!

[BigDaddy777]

Folks, You had to do just ONE thing today. Play my ONLY NCAA Football ATS call and you would be a millionaire! Just one thing is all you had to do!

If you had just laid $1.1M on this game, you would be a newly minted millionaire. And, I gave it to you COMPLETELY free of charge! Whooooooooooooo! Keep in mind that it will be MUCH easier to get down HUGE once NJ opens up. You can spread your money all over the place - Various Vegas Casinos, New Jersey, maybe even a little online!

But today there's just one big story....

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It's very difficult to go 1000% on ats plays, but that's just what Big Daddy did before your very eyes.

Time stamped, before the fact, unlike so many woulda coulda shoulda's on here who only come in AFTER the game is over to tell you what they played....earlier! bahah

Not to put to fine a point on it, but if you had bet $1.1 Million on this play, you would be a millionaire today. All courtesy of Big Daddy. And completely Free!!

Whooooooooooo!

Plus, don't forget, you are 1/5 of the way on to winning another play - The 5 team open parlay. Remember to put in Seahawks (over the Rams) to fill in a 2nd spot.

[BigDaddy777]

Ladies!

I have more picks. As you all know, the awesome NFL is tomorrow.
In honor of that, I have a ML play and a 3 team 7pt teaser...filled!
As fun as it's been, I won't be posting on this thread anymore.

But, because of the UNPRECEDENTED popularity and INTENSE interest in Big Daddy's Plays, I've created an Official thread, humbly entitled BIG DADDY'S PLAYS.

Here's the link! Check it out.... http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...dys-plays.html

[mikejamm]

I live in Jersey & will take full advantage of this...MikeSpamm's jealousy is quite evident.

My point exactly. This shithole that is new jersery. I'm sure bobbypuss will find some new way to scam people with an illegal sportsbook operation or shrill for some casino so he can max out his douche bag rewards card. Once a fuk'in scamming dip shit, always a scamming dip shit. Make sure to take full advantage of bending over bobbypuss!

[mikejamm]

I think you're missing the point.

If Jersey gets this up and running, states will fall over themselves to do the same thing.

California would be next. And I wouldn't be surprised to Pennsylvania, Maryland, Connecticut... all lining up.

That's when off-shores become irrelevant.

And Gold can talk all about "pros in vegas have off shore outs"--- well guess what? 99.44% of the posters here are not pros, they recreational gamblers who will line up to bet state side.

I can see your point Sam, but don't hold your breath thinking "other states" are gonna fall all over themselves to enact the same legislation. If that was the case, we'd already have casinos in every state and online poker would be back to the glory days before black Friday.

This is merely a last ditch effort to save what is already a failing gambling industry in NJ. Had Atlantic City actually used the profits to repair and upgrade that blighted shit hole area, instead of lining the pockets of corrupt assholes like Christy and his cronies, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Best of luck, but if they think sports betting is gonna create thousands of lost jobs and get NJ back in the black, it's a pipe dream with smoke being blown up the NJ voters ass!

[bobbywaves]

My point exactly. This shithole that is new jersery. I'm sure bobbypuss will find some new way to scam people with an illegal sportsbook operation or shrill for some casino so he can max out his douche bag rewards card. Once a fuk'in scamming dip shit, always a scamming dip shit. Make sure to take full advantage of bending over bobbypuss!

Hey MikeSpamm, go cry about another SBR bad beat....Fuk'in loser couldn't even make 2nd string USA World Cup team.

[terpkeg]

Everything the government does, federal or state, is inefficient, frustrating and of mediocre quality at best (and you are lucky to get that). Can't imagine this being any different. Private>Public. At first glance, legal sports betting stateside would pressure the offshore books, push out some of the B-/C level dumpsters (the D/F scammers will stick around in some form or another for some time before that becomes not worth the time and energy) and make the A level books provide a better product. But, at the end of the day, government involvement will only suffocate the industry even more than it has already. Everything the politicians touch turns to sh!t sooner or later.

[scumbag]

Everything the government does, federal or state, is inefficient, frustrating and of mediocre quality at best (and you are lucky to get that). Can't imagine this being any different. Private>Public. At first glance, legal sports betting stateside would pressure the offshore books, push out some of the B-/C level dumpsters (the D/F scammers will stick around in some form or another for some time before that becomes not worth the time and energy) and make the A level books provide a better product. But, at the end of the day, government involvement will only suffocate the industry even more than it has already. Everything the politicians touch turns to sh!t sooner or later.

You probably never knew anyone who a private for profit insurance industry told to " fck off and die".

not to politic or anything but NJ is getting in this to make money. Of course it's probably going to be some BS where you have to pay taxes on every fcking ticket (which is obv insane) glad vegas doesn't roll like that.

[jjgold]

it will be generic but better than nothing

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

Everything the government does, federal or state, is inefficient, frustrating and of mediocre quality at best (and you are lucky to get that). Can't imagine this being any different.

the "govt" is not running the sports books, only granting licenses to do so

duh?

[LeaninBack916]

I think you're missing the point.

If Jersey gets this up and running, states will fall over themselves to do the same thing.

California would be next. And I wouldn't be surprised to Pennsylvania, Maryland, Connecticut... all lining up.

That's when off-shores become irrelevant.

And Gold can talk all about "pros in vegas have off shore outs"--- well guess what? 99.44% of the posters here are not pros, they recreational gamblers who will line up to bet state side.

California is in bed with the Indian Casino operators and they aren't even getting a good share of it. They use the "Indian reservation" line as a way to try and drum up sympathy when the real numbers show the tribal lands for about 90% of the casinos actually hasn't increased life. The only exception on the list was Thunder Valley and two of the southern cali ones.

My main point is that I don't see them legalizing it here. They already tried a few versions of a bill that would allow it on sports except for NCAA events inside CA and it hasn't really gotten close to gaining traction. I also see it as a waste. I could drive from here to Reno in about 2 hours and go bet if I really wanted too... but why when I can use a book like 5dimes and get reduced juice, use my cc, and get a free payout once a month? Also the "options" and ability to "move lines" far exceeds the bleak offerings the Nevada locations give.

Just my .02 but I don't see it coming here to CA.

[krk1030]

It's still against federal law though.....

[jjgold]

Bottom line is offshore places the top ones are way better than Vegas

Legal Books are good though to have in your arsenal

[Trident]

The NCAA, NFL and other major professional sports leagues will file for immediate injunctive relief Tuesday to prevent New Jersey from offering sports betting this weekend, according to State Sen. Raymond Lesniak.Monmouth Park, one New Jersey's oldest thoroughbred tracks, is planning to offer sports betting on Sunday, unless a court order stops it.

http://espn.go.com/espn/chalk/story/...sports-betting

[floridagolfer]

The NCAA, NFL and other major professional sports leagues will file for immediate injunctive relief Tuesday to prevent New Jersey from offering sports betting this weekend, according to State Sen. Raymond Lesniak.Monmouth Park, one New Jersey's oldest thoroughbred tracks, is planning to offer sports betting on Sunday, unless a court order stops it.

http://espn.go.com/espn/chalk/story/...sports-betting

Yeah, we're all surprised by this move.

[jjgold]

will be interesting

I say they get injunction

[existential]

It's still against federal law though.....

Who cares? Feds can't and won't do squat.

[jjgold]

The only issue is the sports leagues have so much money to fight in could wear down William Hill

[Trident]

The only issue is the sports leagues have so much money to fight in could wear down William Hill

William Hill has pulled out till this gets sorted out, if they open this weekend they will be going it alone. Even if NJ wins they could be having problems getting the ok from state regulators in Nevada who must give approval first.

[jjgold]

This seems doomed with red tape
FUK

[existential]

William Hill has pulled out till this gets sorted out, if they open this weekend they will be going it alone. Even if NJ wins they could be having problems getting the ok from state regulators in Nevada who must give approval first.

Nevada has no say about what happens in New Jersey or any other state for that matter

[illini]

So this is just a judges decision away from whether or not wagering in NJ would cause harm to the sports leagues and then NJ will have legal sports betting? With Nevada already doing it how can a judge rule in favor of the leagues?

[TheGuesser]

So this is just a judges decision away from whether or not wagering in NJ would cause harm to the sports leagues and then NJ will have legal sports betting? With Nevada already doing it how can a judge rule in favor of the leagues?

They kept the max bet to $100 to take away the League's arguments that Big Bettors could fix games. An injunction based on that is unlikely, but if the Leagues grease enough palms, it'll probably get an injunction anyway.

[TheGuesser]

Nevada has no say about what happens in New Jersey or any other state for that matter

They do have a say on who they license to take bets in their state however, so if Nevada threatens to take away Will Hill's license in NV, they have to listen.

[illini]

How long will that $100 limit last. Its a good idea though, get your foot in the door and then the flood gates open.

[darrell74]

What is different than before in reference that how the federal government will allow it.

So Jersey, gets started, next Monday.
then the feds crush them with fines. I don't see it how they can do it

[ajt6]

The NCAA, NFL and other major professional sports leagues will file for immediate injunctive relief Tuesday to prevent New Jersey from offering sports betting this weekend, according to State Sen. Raymond Lesniak.Monmouth Park, one New Jersey's oldest thoroughbred tracks, is planning to offer sports betting on Sunday, unless a court order stops it.

http://espn.go.com/espn/chalk/story/...sports-betting

Meanwhile bet365 ads will be flashing on the displays during EPL games and fans can place bets from the game.

[existential]

They do have a say on who they license to take bets in their state however, so if Nevada threatens to take away Will Hill's license in NV, they have to listen.

Nevada has zero leverage and has been irrelevant in the big picture for a long time. Whether it's Will Hill or any other private, multi-national operation, their U.S. based business would increase ten fold even if they gained the tri-state area and lost Nevada (naturally, the expansion of the tri-state area would take some time).

This final issue is about the leagues (NFL specifically) and the league(s) alone. It has nothing to do with "the Feds" or the state of Nevada, both are equally irrelevant.

Whatsmore, Monmouth and other tri-state area tracks/casinos are ready to run their operations even without a Will Hill or any other branded BM. So even if Will Hill suddenly wanted to lay low for a bit, the show could still go on.

[Biff41]

Nevada has zero leverage and has been irrelevant in the big picture for a long time. Whether it's Will Hill or any other private, multi-national operation, their U.S. based business would increase ten fold even if they gained the tri-state area and lost Nevada (naturally, the expansion of the tri-state area would take some time).

This final issue is about the leagues (NFL specifically) and the league(s) alone. It has nothing to do with "the Feds" or the state of Nevada, both are equally irrelevant.

Whatsmore, Monmouth and other tri-state area tracks/casinos are ready to run their operations even without a Will Hill or any other branded BM. So even if Will Hill suddenly wanted to lay low for a bit, the show could still go on.

The NFL is partially funded with support from taxpayers funding stadiums. They could get in hot water advocating political positions some of these taxpayers disagree with.

[existential]

The NFL is partially funded with support from taxpayers funding stadiums. They could get in hot water advocating political positions some of these taxpayers disagree with.

Like I said, yes, this final issue/hurdle essentially involves the NFL and the NFL alone. But all the other boogeyman theories involving "the Feds" and "Vegas" are laughable since neither are relevant.