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    My breakdown of semis and final

    Brazil-Germany:
    Brazil are indeed the home team and have tremendous support, but their journey ends here. Germany are strong and have depth of talent. Its no doubt that Brazil has talent as well, but their lack of strong defense will be exposed today. Germany is a great team in possession and I believe they are the strongest side left of the 4.
    Germany 3-1.

    Argentina-Dutch:
    Messi looks like a man possessed and poised to grab some hardware for his country. The dutch have been a team of destiny. This will be a heck of a semi final game with lots of flare. Argentina may be over matched, though. At this stage in the tournament they need a little more than what I've seen for them to make the final. I dont see it in them.
    Dutch 3-2.

    Final: Germany-Dutch:
    Two teams that have some storied history from the world cup. Both teams full of stars. I believe Germany is the strongest side in the tournament and have thought so since be for it all started. I think the way they play in possession mixed with one of the world's best keepers will win them this final.
    Germany 2-1
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    High scoring games you got there.

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    Very high scoring! I agree on the results but i would say more like
    Germany 1-0 Brazil or maybe Germany 2 - 1 Brazil (After Extra Time)

    Argentina 1-0 Netherlands I reckon

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    Lack of strong defense from Brazil. This is their best line and only hope today. Four and five goals scored in two semis ? Wow. Stick to capping NCAA dude. You'd be lucky to see four goals in two matches combined.

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    I agree with results

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    Are we talking about hockey or soccer? ???

    3-1

    3-2


    Hahahhahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    Lack of strong defense from Brazil. This is their best line and only hope today. Four and five goals scored in two semis ? Wow. Stick to capping NCAA dude. You'd be lucky to see four goals in two matches combined.
    Brazil defense is weak. Germans may very well expose that today.

    I am a little high on goals scored but just watch.
    If im wrong, im wrong.

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    Germany should/will put out the same lineup as against the french and play strong on the back end all day.

    With Neymar out Brazil will play with more structure in the middle.

    I think this is a 1-0 game for sure! I lean Germany but with the Ref who was assigned could see some crazy cards today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Brazil defense is weak. Germans may very well expose that today.

    I am a little high on goals scored but just watch.
    If im wrong, im wrong.
    Brazil's defence and goalkeeper are their best side, as it was stated earlier in the thread. Claiming Brazil's defence is weak is hilarious. The only problem was Dani Alves but the coach replaced him with Maicon for the quarterfinal. Marcelo was erroneous in the first matches but has gained momentum and has been playing very well in the matches against Chile and Colombia.

    Given how weak Brazil's midfield has been in the second halves against Chile and Colombia and that they will be playing without Neymar, we can expect a defensive approach from them. The return of Luis Gustavo (who will probably replace Paulinho) is going to be good for that.

    On the other hand, Germany's forwards haven't been very impressive in the last two games. Everything here points towards a low-scoring game.

    ed: There is still some possibility that the lack of Thiago Silva will cause trouble to the Brazil's side but my expectations are good play from Dante tonight. Moreover, he knows the German players very well.

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    Germany seems too easy

    Argentina my other choice

    men at this stage its where the ball bounces and who gets lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marillion View Post
    Brazil's defence and goalkeeper are their best side, as it was stated earlier in the thread. Claiming Brazil's defence is weak is hilarious. The only problem was Dani Alves but the coach replaced him with Maicon for the quarterfinal. Marcelo was erroneous in the first matches but has gained momentum and has been playing very well in the matches against Chile and Colombia.

    Given how weak Brazil's midfield has been in the second halves against Chile and Colombia and that they will be playing without Neymar, we can expect a defensive approach from them. The return of Luis Gustavo (who will probably replace Paulinho) is going to be good for that.

    On the other hand, Germany's forwards haven't been very impressive in the last two games. Everything here points towards a low-scoring game.

    ed: There is still some possibility that the lack of Thiago Silva will cause trouble to the Brazil's side but my expectations are good play from Dante tonight. Moreover, he knows the German players very well.
    Very good stuff here marillion.
    Its just inevitable that brazil's defense gets broken down, in my eyes. They are known for being a shaky side defensively, but having definitely shown some strength in this WC. I do not believe it will continue with the enormous amount of pressure on them at this point. Germany also has a very skilled midfield and attackers that can break them Down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    High scoring games you got there.
    yes that would very unsual to see all those goals considering we only saw 5 total goals in the past 4 games of the world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    Lack of strong defense from Brazil. This is their best line and only hope today. Four and five goals scored in two semis ? Wow. Stick to capping NCAA dude. You'd be lucky to see four goals in two matches combined.
    i agree that Brazil will be defensive minded today.

    You are correct without Neymar they must rely on a strong defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    i agree that Brazil will be defensive minded today.

    You are correct without Neymar they must rely on a strong defense.
    "Bend but dont break" is extremely difficult against a team like Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Brazil defense is weak. Germans may very well expose that today.

    I am a little high on goals scored but just watch.
    If im wrong, im wrong.
    You are 1000000% wrong about Brazil defense being weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    You are 1000000% wrong about Brazil defense being weak.
    Germany midfield can shred them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Germany midfield can shred them.
    Brazil better at almost every position. But it is fun watching the guys that have watched 20 or less soccer games lifetime talk about whose good and whose not because of what they are watching when they barely know half of the rules of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    Brazil better at almost every position. But it is fun watching the guys that have watched 20 or less soccer games lifetime talk about whose good and whose not because of what they are watching when they barely know half of the rules of the game.
    See that is where youre wrong. Im a lifetime soccer player and fan.

    Its funny seeing folks get so butthurt on here when someone posts actual analysis. I never said anywhere in this thread that everyone has to think the same way as I do. If you dont feel like its right then simply fade. You wont hurt my feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    Brazil better at almost every position. But it is fun watching the guys that have watched 20 or less soccer games lifetime talk about whose good and whose not because of what they are watching when they barely know half of the rules of the game.
    And what would watching germany this WC show anyone? They havent played to nearly their potential.

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    Brazil - Germany = 2-1
    Argentina - Netherlands = 2-1
    Brazil - Argentina = 1-1 (Argentina wins in penalties)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Brazil - Germany = 2-1
    Argentina - Netherlands = 2-1
    Brazil - Argentina = 1-1 (Argentina wins in penalties)
    Respectable.
    these teams feature so many game changing players that any of the 4 left could easily win .

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    See that is where youre wrong. Im a lifetime soccer player and fan.

    Its funny seeing folks get so butthurt on here when someone posts actual analysis. I never said anywhere in this thread that everyone has to think the same way as I do. If you dont feel like its right then simply fade. You wont hurt my feelings.
    I faded it hard (well not a direct fade i like brazil here) being that I obviously love Brazil in the game. I also think there is a potential big officiating advantage for Brazil here as well. And you are correct we don't have to agree on anything. GL on your play my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Respectable.
    these teams feature so many game changing players that any of the 4 left could easily win .
    Now this is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    Now this is a fact.
    I think these 4 were the 4 to beat when this tournament began. Its nice that they have proven their strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    Now this is a fact.
    indeed, hence why any "all in" bets at this point in the World Cup are idiotic.

    I think Germany will win today, but I wouldn't consider it a lock by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlurredOut View Post
    indeed, hence why any "all in" bets at this point in the World Cup are idiotic.

    I think Germany will win today, but I wouldn't consider it a lock by any means.
    There are never any allin bets no matter what the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Respectable.
    these teams feature so many game changing players that any of the 4 left could easily win .
    I absolutely agree.

    But given what the current odds are, I have taken the Germany pk line even if I am a sick Brazil fan.

    Oh and by the way, I don't remember the last time when all the teams in the semifinals of the world cup have had good chances of winning it all.

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    Anyone?

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    Shredding their WEAK defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    Lack of strong defense from Brazil. This is their best line and only hope today. Four and five goals scored in two semis ? Wow. Stick to capping NCAA dude. You'd be lucky to see four goals in two matches combined.
    Keep laughing buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Brazil-Germany:
    Brazil are indeed the home team and have tremendous support, but their journey ends here. Germany are strong and have depth of talent. Its no doubt that Brazil has talent as well, but their lack of strong defense will be exposed today. Germany is a great team in possession and I believe they are the strongest side left of the 4.
    Germany 3-1.

    Argentina-Dutch:
    Messi looks like a man possessed and poised to grab some hardware for his country. The dutch have been a team of destiny. This will be a heck of a semi final game with lots of flare. Argentina may be over matched, though. At this stage in the tournament they need a little more than what I've seen for them to make the final. I dont see it in them.
    Dutch 3-2.

    Final: Germany-Dutch:
    Two teams that have some storied history from the world cup. Both teams full of stars. I believe Germany is the strongest side in the tournament and have thought so since be for it all started. I think the way they play in possession mixed with one of the world's best keepers will win them this final.
    Germany 2-1
    pretty spot on. I will never doubt you again.

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    Like I said. Brazil has a weak defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Like I said. Brazil has a weak defense.
    Certainly were weak today which is all that matters. Congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    Lack of strong defense from Brazil. This is their best line and only hope today. Four and five goals scored in two semis ? Wow. Stick to capping NCAA dude. You'd be lucky to see four goals in two matches combined.
    8 goals scored in one game lol.

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    Lack of strong defense from Brazil. This is their best line and only hope today. Four and five goals scored in two semis ? Wow. Stick to capping NCAA dude. You'd be lucky to see four goals in two matches combined.
    Perfect example of why you shouldn't troll someones thread if you yourself don't know what the hell your talking about.

    Frugal most likely realizes how stupid he now looks and you probably won't see him in this thread anymore.

    He opened his mouth and it got smacked.

    The stand up thing would be to come back and admit you were wrong.

    Good call THAM.

    I think Argentina wins tomorrow but I'm not going to say you suck and shouldn't be capping Soccer just because
    I disagree with you.

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