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    Swisssssss to advance +355

    Any value in this number? Or would it be a dead bet? Take them at +0.5/+1 (+130)? Or not at all? I have hardly bet the World Cup at all, but I'm looking for some degen morning action and wondering when there will finally be an upset in the WC.

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    I love the swiss but the problem is the firepower. Argentina has more weapons than the swiss. Swiss equal better team though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    I love the swiss but the problem is the firepower. Argentina has more weapons than the swiss. Swiss equal better team though.
    So at +355? Worth a small play?

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    Yes small play only

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    Messi and that dam. Left foot can easily break a tie

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    I like the Swiss +1 at even money. Thats the bet here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollars2Donuts View Post
    I like the Swiss +1 at even money. Thats the bet here.

    Forgive the ignorance because i dont bet soccer. If regulation incl ot ends in a tie and goes to pk, do u win?

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    Yes. Even if it goes to an extra period, the plus 1 is a winner.

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    Not worth it

    If you want a dog take USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadLuckSanta View Post
    Not worth it

    If you want a dog take USA
    The US (IMO) doesn't pay enough for the risk. Belgium in regulation is the best bet on that game. If I could get the US plus 1 at even money I would be all over it.

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    The Swiss are a very solid team. Went 7-0-3 in qualifying, giving up only 6 goals in 10 games. They also beat Brazil 1-0 in a friendly. The only real bad game was the France game where they lost 5-2, but the second half was a 2-2 draw.

    Besides Messi Argentina has not impressed at all and I'm still confused as to why everyone is riding them in this tournament.

    Are they the better team than Switzerland? Probably. Is there any value in betting them? I dont think so. This round of 16 has also been crazy so far with every game coming so dang close to being an upset. This one finally will be.

    I'm taking Swiss ML +600 at 2 units.

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    Live dog for sure.

    Refs probably screw them.

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    Like Argentina to win by 2, myself.

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    just donate to a charity.

    argentina will advance.

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    I'm in 1st goal after 27.5 min at + money.

    There is the natural anxiety of an elimination game, also Swiss play defense very well and it'll try to defend 1st half and frustrate Argentina.

    Also it's a safe bet, because after the 27,5 minute mark, your're safe, because if there's no goals in the match, it's a push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    just donate to a charity.

    argentina will advance.
    OP would never donate to charity.

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    agentina and usa both on a mission today

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    at +355 def has value... Swiss Cheese is looking to attack, Argentina too.. and both have bad defense..

    and the best part in this is a DOG has yet to advance this round

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    Swiss played last game in Manuas, every team thats played in Manaus has lost their next game bar Portugal.

    Swiss better keep the ball or they chase Albiceleste all over the pitch. Thought this line would be more like +500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nskokov View Post
    The Swiss are a very solid team. Went 7-0-3 in qualifying, giving up only 6 goals in 10 games. They also beat Brazil 1-0 in a friendly. The only real bad game was the France game where they lost 5-2, but the second half was a 2-2 draw.

    Besides Messi Argentina has not impressed at all and I'm still confused as to why everyone is riding them in this tournament.

    Are they the better team than Switzerland? Probably. Is there any value in betting them? I dont think so. This round of 16 has also been crazy so far with every game coming so dang close to being an upset. This one finally will be.

    I'm taking Swiss ML +600 at 2 units.
    great post changed my mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruins35 View Post
    great post changed my mind
    Ouch...

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    When they lost 5-2 to France it showed me they're not ready to play with the big boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by nskokov View Post
    The Swiss are a very solid team. Went 7-0-3 in qualifying, giving up only 6 goals in 10 games. They also beat Brazil 1-0 in a friendly. The only real bad game was the France game where they lost 5-2, but the second half was a 2-2 draw.

    Besides Messi Argentina has not impressed at all and I'm still confused as to why everyone is riding them in this tournament.

    Are they the better team than Switzerland? Probably. Is there any value in betting them? I dont think so. This round of 16 has also been crazy so far with every game coming so dang close to being an upset. This one finally will be.

    I'm taking Swiss ML +600 at 2 units.
    The Round of 16 historically is always close. If u don't wanna look to far back in history just look at the 02 then 06 then 10. Literally every ko stage gm was close. It's this way because most Rd of 16 teams are good

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1here View Post
    agentina and usa both on a mission today
    On a mission? Lol.

    I believe Argentine probably advances today, but I still think the Swiss are the side to be on with the odds. First there is a good chance they go to extra time or PKs and there is a chance they win outright. Enough to justify the +100 odds anyway because there is also a good chance they push in regulation with a one goal Argentina win. My feeling is the Swiss win here in regulation 15% of the time, have a draw in regulation time 35% of the time, and lose in regulation by one goal (given their defense) 25% of the time. This should be an outright loser only one in four matches, meaning the +1 at +money is a no brainer.

    As for the US, I was originally looking to get all over them.....I think they have a decent chance in the game.....until I looked at the odds. I was sure that Belgium would be -1 at even odds. Instead they are -.5 and this easily sways my opinion over to Belgium. Just another straight math play.

    Good of luck either way. I would prefer to see the US advance on a personal level. It would be great to see two CONCACAF teams in the quarters.

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    The Swiss bet is toast even on the spread if Argentina manages to get one in early. It will make Swiss have to attack. Then they are in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadLuckSanta View Post
    Not worth it

    If you want a dog take USA
    Not a very good price given the chance of that happening IMHO.

    +150? That's it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post
    The Swiss bet is toast even on the spread if Argentina manages to get one in early. It will make Swiss have to attack. Then they are in trouble.
    Yes, that is true....but you have just named one of a bunch of different scenarios. Anyone could also say 'if Argentina doesn't score in the first half they are in trouble' or 'if it's tied at the half the Swiss defense will become even stronger'.

    Argentina are not as good as people are thinking and the Swiss are better than people are giving them credit for. I am not saying that the Swiss win here, all I am saying is that I believe they are the side to be on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Live dog for sure.

    Refs probably screw them.
    That's what I'm worried about -- and why I never bet soccer. This shit makes the WWE look on the level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    OP would never donate to charity.
    I give more to church/charity than you make at Burger King in a year, simpleton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post
    The Swiss bet is toast even on the spread if Argentina manages to get one in early. It will make Swiss have to attack. Then they are in trouble.
    Couldn't you say that about most bigger dogs in the World Cup though?

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    Swiss for me. Argentina more overrated than Megan Fox

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I give more to church/charity than you make at Burger King in a year, simpleton.
    If u give to church, ur a dumbfuk. Lol
    Thats all the church ever want. Money money money!!!
    Worshipping a bunch of idiots in church

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    Quote Originally Posted by bababooey13 View Post
    Swiss for me. Argentina more overrated than Megan Fox
    You sir, sound like a gay!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doughboy22 View Post
    You sir, sound like a gay!!!
    so? its 2014 bro.. stop hating on us. from your avatar looks like youd fit right in with us.
    come check back in at 2 pm pal

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