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    Talk me off the ledge with this NFL Draft Prop

    SAMMY WATKINS (WR CLEMSON) DRAFT POSITION IN THE 2014 NFL DRAFT WILL BE?
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    17537 S WATKINS DRAFT POSITION - OV
    o4½+245

    17538 S WATKINS DRAFT POSITION - UN u4½-355

    Since the Raiders draft 5, there is no one who is going to take Sammy Watkins in the top 4 is it. Why does this seem like easy money. Houston, Rams just drafted T Austin, Jags and Browns need a qb. Doesn't Watkins fall to a minimum 5th pick. No one moves up to take a WR in the top 4 but the Falcons, now they need all defensive players just to get back to respectiability. Feedback

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    I have Watkins going to Cleveland at #4, Brown can take Carr or Bridgewater with their second first round pick

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    And Watkins is in play for Jags at #3 too, although I have them taking Mack

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I have Watkins going to Cleveland at #4, Brown can take Carr or Bridgewater with their second first round pick
    They have Josh Gordon!!!!!! They don't need another receiver and no qb to throw it to either of them. That makes no sense. But you could be right. The teams drafting high are drafting high for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    SAMMY WATKINS (WR CLEMSON) DRAFT POSITION IN THE 2014 NFL DRAFT WILL BE?
    Time
    # Teams Spread Total Odds

    500 USD *
    7:00 PM
    17537 S WATKINS DRAFT POSITION - OV
    o4½+245

    17538 S WATKINS DRAFT POSITION - UN u4½-355

    Since the Raiders draft 5, there is no one who is going to take Sammy Watkins in the top 4 is it. Why does this seem like easy money. Houston, Rams just drafted T Austin, Jags and Browns need a qb. Doesn't Watkins fall to a minimum 5th pick. No one moves up to take a WR in the top 4 but the Falcons, now they need all defensive players just to get back to respectiability. Feedback
    Tavon Austin is NOT a #1 receiver. He's just too small. He's a slot, Percy Harvin-like, player. They still need a #1 receiver. STL could easily go all in with Bradford as their guy and give him another solid WR to throw to. I'm not saying I completely disagree with your reasoning, but I do think that's a wild card to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Marques View Post
    Tavon Austin is NOT a #1 receiver. He's just too small. He's a slot, Percy Harvin-like, player. They still need a #1 receiver. STL could easily go all in with Bradford as their guy and give him another solid WR to throw to. I'm not saying I completely disagree with your reasoning, but I do think that's a wild card to consider.
    Why did the Rams move up to draft a number 2 or 3 receiver at the #7 slot? That is bad drafting then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Why did the Rams move up to draft a number 2 or 3 receiver at the #7 slot? That is bad drafting then.
    I agree. Honestly they really need OL help but I bet they'll take Watkins to put butts in seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Marques View Post
    I agree. Honestly they really need OL help but I bet they'll take Watkins to put butts in seats.
    No way they take Watkins at 2. They can get Watkins at 5 or later. Someone else could move up to take Watkins, but they just made a big move for a receiver last year and there is no way they can start doing the Matt Millan thing of drafting a receiver high every year and the rest of the positions go without attention. The Rams need everything on offense but a receiver.

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    Tampa? Buffalo? Both could move up to get him. Even Jacksonville might take him.

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    It's a winner. Pound it.

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    i have watkins going to the raiders.... but im biased.

    jags could take him because of blackmon's suspension but mack seems to make more sense. i have browns taking bortles then a wr at #26.

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    So hard to tell with trade ups always in play

    Not bad value I guess but wouldn't bet big on either side

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    Jags and Browns are both possibilities for Watkins

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneylineExpress View Post
    Jags and Browns are both possibilities for Watkins
    Lets say you are correct. Brian hoyer and chad henne will be his qb. That makes a lot of sense. It's like having a Ferrari with slick tires.

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    You realize there's 7 rounds to a draft? There will be other spots to grab a qb including #26, their second pick. Just because they don't take one with their first pick doesn't mean henne/Hoyer will 100% start. Not much valuepassing on sammy for a qb .

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    I follow Browns religouisly, they are NIOT taking a QB at #4, and they will take Watkins if hes available I promise you

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Lets say you are correct. Brian hoyer and chad henne will be his qb. That makes a lot of sense. It's like having a Ferrari with slick tires.
    Browns could take Bridgewater or Carr with second pick in first round, and whichever it is would be throwing to Watkins / Josh Gordon receiving combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Browns could take Bridgewater or Carr with second pick in first round, and whichever it is would be throwing to Watkins / Josh Gordon receiving combo.
    Just read an article on the Browns, in it Mike Pettine says it would be very difficult for a rookie QB to win the starting job over Hoyer. He goes on to praise Hoyer's intangibles. I can't find the link, but its on yahoo somewhere. I dont think the Browns will take a QB in the 1st round and will only take Carr if he's there at #35. I thinkt he Browns are dying for Watkins, and will settle for Mack. If they are both gone, along with Clowney, they will either take an OT or try to trade down. Only shocker I see would be them taking Evans at #4, and I would be fine with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAX View Post
    Just read an article on the Browns, in it Mike Pettine says it would be very difficult for a rookie QB to win the starting job over Hoyer. He goes on to praise Hoyer's intangibles. I can't find the link, but its on yahoo somewhere. I dont think the Browns will take a QB in the 1st round and will only take Carr if he's there at #35. I thinkt he Browns are dying for Watkins, and will settle for Mack. If they are both gone, along with Clowney, they will either take an OT or try to trade down. Only shocker I see would be them taking Evans at #4, and I would be fine with that
    That's a winning plan. Have an offense that is to complicated for a talented high draft pick rookie, but just fine for a guy who should never have started an nfl game and career third stringer. What's wrong with that picture?

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    1. Clowney 2. G Rob 3 Mack 4 Evans. Cle is taking Evans from what EVERY1 is reporting Watkins should fall to 5 unless their is a trade or the jags are penetrating idiots and pick another small WR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    SAMMY WATKINS (WR CLEMSON) DRAFT POSITION IN THE 2014 NFL DRAFT WILL BE?
    Time
    # Teams Spread Total Odds

    500 USD *
    7:00 PM
    17537 S WATKINS DRAFT POSITION - OV
    o4½+245

    17538 S WATKINS DRAFT POSITION - UN u4½-355

    Since the Raiders draft 5, there is no one who is going to take Sammy Watkins in the top 4 is it. Why does this seem like easy money. Houston, Rams just drafted T Austin, Jags and Browns need a qb. Doesn't Watkins fall to a minimum 5th pick. No one moves up to take a WR in the top 4 but the Falcons, now they need all defensive players just to get back to respectiability. Feedback
    do you want to bet on something that is fixed?

    you best believe the sportsbook has contacted each of these teams are they are pretty damn sure Watkins will go in the top 4 picks or they would not be offering +245

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    do you want to bet on something that is fixed?

    you best believe the sportsbook has contacted each of these teams are they are pretty damn sure Watkins will go in the top 4 picks or they would not be offering +245
    looks like the penetrating idiot is back

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    [QUOTE=James Marques;21812839]Tampa? Buffalo? Both could move up to get him. Even Jacksonville might take him.[/QUOTE

    Good call. I had everything factored in but buffalo moving up to take Watkins at 4. Buffalo needs a qb to get Watkins the ball. Ej Manuel won't be able to do it. Oh well. I now hate the bills. They coste money and this pick makes no sense in their division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Good call. I had everything factored in but buffalo moving up to take Watkins at 4. Buffalo needs a qb to get Watkins the ball. Ej Manuel won't be able to do it. Oh well. I now hate the bills. They coste money and this pick makes no sense in their division.
    You'll get it back. I thought you might get it until I saw Buffalo trade up. What is it about all these Clemson guys and Buffalo? What is there like 5 in the last few years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I have Watkins going to Cleveland at #4, Brown can take Carr or Bridgewater with their second first round pick
    You know nothing. Bridgewater got picked before Carr.

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    [QUOTE=seaborneq;21816123]
    Quote Originally Posted by James Marques View Post
    Tampa? Buffalo? Both could move up to get him. Even Jacksonville might take him.[/QUOTE

    Good call. I had everything factored in but buffalo moving up to take Watkins at 4. Buffalo needs a qb to get Watkins the ball. Ej Manuel won't be able to do it. Oh well. I now hate the bills. They coste money and this pick makes no sense in their division.


    Makes plenty of sense. Sorry you lost your bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnes & Whine View Post
    You know nothing. Bridgewater got picked before Carr.
    Huh? What does that have to to with anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnes & Whine View Post
    You know nothing. Bridgewater got picked before Carr.
    Um, I went 2-0 in my recommended draft plays (Manziel Over 5.5, Bortles before Manziel) and I tied for first in the draft contest, so I don't know what you are talking about.

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    Let me give u a taste of your own past posting medicine. Horrible fukkin pick. There how did that feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    Let me give u a taste of your own past posting medicine. Horrible fukkin pick. There how did that feel.
    I'm penetrating elated.

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