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    I used the service over a year ago. In my experience they tracked all the plays correctly. I had the basic service for a month and it produced a small profit.

    Hope this was helpful. Gl

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    I have had and tracked him in the past. His records are 100% accurate for the month I tracked/bet his plays.

    Only bad thing I would have to say about him, is he releases high ML plays. But he risks 5x to win xxx, not to win 5x. It's a little more safe doing it that way. But I am not a fan of ML favorites and that's why I did not like the service.

    So to answer your question, yes his plays are 100% accurate. You receive them early via email, which is nice, and the plays always matched up with his website. It looks like if you stick with him and bet his plays exactly, you should profit over the course of the year. I gave him a month run and did not like the plays. It was a small winning month too, but high ML plays are not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDonger View Post
    ^ I feel you. Those who can't speak about units sizing are 100% losers. Sometime there is huge value in a pick while sometime there is just a slight edge. I love the star system because it makes full use of a unit size and lower the variance.
    He answered quick because he has no customer s. And yes this is him drumming up some hype for his service. You think you are so much smarter than everyone else. Just post your plays for 3days then you might get some biz.



    yeah I emailed him and he answered in like 30 minutes. That's really awesome considering it's sunday.
    because you emailed yourself. And you have no customer s

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111resevil777 View Post
    Here's the story, years back before Jeff Keim started his service he was a gambler spending thousands a month on services then he would trade info, all he does now is troll the boards and resells top plays, he's monitored at OK City and he is nowhere what he claims, if anyone could hit 60% they wouldn't have to prostitute themselves!
    Lol. Those are his syndicated plays. Lol

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    the donger...should be dong in mouth!

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    sign me up..since may.1..... 4-8...ROI.....DONG on welfare!

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    oskeim Sports (Jeff Keim)

    This guy used to be a forum poster at stat fox. he had a very solid track record, but like most, when they turn tout, they go into the abyss. His latest venture was at a website with about 75-100 cappers. He was never on the leaderboards. The leaderboards at this site show all cappers that are positive at any given day during a season, in any given sport. I traced what he was doing there, to what he was claiming at his website, and it simply did not add up. He is no longer at this website, simply because he couldn't make any money! I have never had his service, so as far as what he claims, I can't prove right or wrong. What I can claim is the record he had at this other website, was not even in the ball park of what he posts at his site, and therein lies the problem for me. This guy is or was an attorney in Connecticut, and says he will prosecute anyone that posts his picks anywhere. Good luck with that, every case that ever came up on that got thrown out. His website claims 64.3% for his 5* club on over 600 picks. THERE ISN'T A PERSON ON THIS PLANET THAT CAN OR WILL EVER DO THAT! He also posts 63.8% winners with the so-called pinnacle syndicate. Gentlemen, if anyone ever hit 64% at a particular sports book, they would no longer be betting their, use common logic! I hate to see all gamblers get fished into a big wide net, because they want to believe. A perfect example is IC. The guy has been hot since coming back, but doesn't everyone remember how he was forced out because he bankrupted clients so bad it was a total embarrassment! Not a single person had anything good to say about him, now he hits a good run, and everyone is sucking his ass so hard, he could run for president. Mark my words, in a few short months, the same people will be broke, and he will be what he was, NOTHING better than anyone here picking their own picks. Wake up people, how many times do I have to warn you?

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    Oh Jesus, Oskeim posting on this board under another assumed name. Its unbelievably pathetic.

    He's a gigantic scam artist. I would rather bet Steve Stevens/Lang parlays than give money to this incredible scumbag.

    Every month, like clockwork, one of his shills shows up praising the scumbag. Its disgusting and so incredibly obvious that he's trying to drum up business.

    Barf.
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    scam

    Also, here is the telltale sign of a scammer. If you google Oskeim Sports is a scam you will realize he likely is one. I say that because the first several pages are all written by oskeim Sports. It is a ploy by internet savvy programmers to get on top of the search engines negative reports. It is typically done, so anyone with excess baggage can hide their sins. That way when someone tries to find the truth, it is all blocked by how good he is.

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    He was picked up by scamdicappers website that monitors picks of 1000s of handicappers, he ranked #935! Sounds like 64% to me, must mean 934 others hit 80%

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    Think about this please

    Walters is staggeringly rich (according to 60 Minutes, he is “worth hundreds of millions of dollars”), but he claims a lifetime winning percentage of only 57 percent, as compared to the break-even of 52.38 percent (the winning percentage sports gamblers need to hit to offset paying out a 10 percent vig on their bet. Think about that now. here is a legendary handicapper, he is known throughout the world, if you gamble you know this guy, every sports book knows him, he is legendary. HE HITS 57%! So now we have Oskeim Sports hitting 64% for 5 straight years, but no one knows who he is? he can make Billy Walters look like a loser, but no one knows of him? How can that be friends? I think we all know the answer, IT IS NOT REAL! IF IT WAS REAL he'd be in Vegas making billions of dollars, not in front of a computer begging for business! Shame on you all!

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    Anytime you start a Oskeim thread, it always amazes me the obsessed losers that come out of the woodwork to chime in their worthless opinions. I just figured it out. Andthewinner and Goirishgo knew Jeff Oskeim back in the golden ages when they used to follow him on Stat Fox. After ten years, the two of them are still jerking off in front of the computer and Oskeim has moved on the build a successful handicapping service. Deep down they know, they could only dream of building a business like Oskeim Sports. Andthewinner- It was so nice of you to follow Oskeim plays on a made up forum, which no longer exists. I can confirm that his Pinnacle Club is 22-7 the last 29 plays and before that results have been positive. There are at least three clients on this thread that have confirmed his record being correct but it was nice of you to take time telling us all that no one in the world can hit 57 percent. I wasn't sure if I could live another day without your bullshit insight. Goirishgo- Just a matter of time before you added your baseless opinion. I'm sure your a rich man following winners like Dr. Bob. After the tenth e-mail of " I had the right side but all the variance cost me a winner" I couldn't take it from that has been. Two long term losers adding nothing to this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    Walters is staggeringly rich (according to 60 Minutes, he is “worth hundreds of millions of dollars”), but he claims a lifetime winning percentage of only 57 percent, as compared to the break-even of 52.38 percent (the winning percentage sports gamblers need to hit to offset paying out a 10 percent vig on their bet. Think about that now. here is a legendary handicapper, he is known throughout the world, if you gamble you know this guy, every sports book knows him, he is legendary. HE HITS 57%! So now we have Oskeim Sports hitting 64% for 5 straight years, but no one knows who he is? he can make Billy Walters look like a loser, but no one knows of him? How can that be friends? I think we all know the answer, IT IS NOT REAL! IF IT WAS REAL he'd be in Vegas making billions of dollars, not in front of a computer begging for business! Shame on you all!
    Either you're mentally disable or you simple didn't take the time to think before posting. Hope it's the latter. I could have a 25% win rate and be positive. It has nothing (not even close) to do winning/losing. If I pick only +500 and hit 25% of my picks then I'm god like. It seems like he's picking juicy picks (+100 to -180). So it does make sens that he has a higher winrate % then someone that only pick -105/-110.

    Think before posting bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    Anytime you start a Oskeim thread, it always amazes me the obsessed losers that come out of the woodwork to chime in their worthless opinions. I just figured it out. Andthewinner and Goirishgo knew Jeff Oskeim back in the golden ages when they used to follow him on Stat Fox. After ten years, the two of them are still jerking off in front of the computer and Oskeim has moved on the build a successful handicapping service. Deep down they know, they could only dream of building a business like Oskeim Sports. Andthewinner- It was so nice of you to follow Oskeim plays on a made up forum, which no longer exists. I can confirm that his Pinnacle Club is 22-7 the last 29 plays and before that results have been positive. There are at least three clients on this thread that have confirmed his record being correct but it was nice of you to take time telling us all that no one in the world can hit 57 percent. I wasn't sure if I could live another day without your bullshit insight. Goirishgo- Just a matter of time before you added your baseless opinion. I'm sure your a rich man following winners like Dr. Bob. After the tenth e-mail of " I had the right side but all the variance cost me a winner" I couldn't take it from that has been. Two long term losers adding nothing to this thread.
    oskeim Sports posted his paid picks at a site of 75-100 cappers that still exists. He had an overall losing record, that is a fact...yet on his website he hits 64%, keep following him, Hitler had a lot of followers too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDonger View Post
    Either you're mentally disable or you simple didn't take the time to think before posting. Hope it's the latter. I could have a 25% win rate and be positive. It has nothing (not even close) to do winning/losing. If I pick only +500 and hit 25% of my picks then I'm god like. It seems like he's picking juicy picks (+100 to -180). So it does make sens that he has a higher winrate % then someone that only pick -105/-110.

    Think before posting bullshit.
    That's what I say, think his record is a bunch of crap, especially when his ROI which is smaller on negative chalky bets, is higher than his pick %age, do you get it? A win at -180 yields a smaller ROI than a win at -110, but his site claims a higher win rate than -110 odds, hello?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    That's what I say, think his record is a bunch of crap, especially when his ROI which is smaller on negative chalky bets, is higher than his pick %age, do you get it? A win at -180 yields a smaller ROI than a win at -110, but his site claims a higher win rate than -110 odds, hello?
    Your the one who didn't take the time before posting. Go look at his archived picks for March (not including the couple of MLB picks). Out of 100 or so picks, just 4 were wagered on lines of greater than -120 odds, so 64%? yeah ok, in his dreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    oskeim Sports posted his paid picks at a site of 75-100 cappers that still exists. He had an overall losing record, that is a fact...yet on his website he hits 64%, keep following him, Hitler had a lot of followers too!
    Do you mind stating the site I'd like to take a look on my own. And comparing me to hitler is kind of just showing a little bit more how retarded you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    That's what I say, think his record is a bunch of crap, especially when his ROI which is smaller on negative chalky bets, is higher than his pick %age, do you get it? A win at -180 yields a smaller ROI than a win at -110, but his site claims a higher win rate than -110 odds, hello?
    His numbers adds up. If they haven't been modified, I took the time to count the stars. If I had bet half a unit per stars I'd have 60% ROI (if I didn't change my unit per bet during the year). A win at -180 doesn't equal smaller ROI. It only have an indirect effect on it. Here's the formula :
    Average odd = Sum of odds/Total games
    Win% = Total win / Total games
    Win% * Average odds = ROI

    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    Your the one who didn't take the time before posting. Go look at his archived picks for March (not including the couple of MLB picks). Out of 100 or so picks, just 4 were wagered on lines of greater than -120 odds, so 64%? yeah ok, in his dreams
    ... and 2 picks where at 150 since the beginning of the month.

    ======

    At the end. Do you even know what my question is? Let me clear it out.

    Did he or did he not alter his record on his site.

    So far the answer is no. But since there is some reasonable doubt I will track him for a while using his pending picks. If anyone is interrested I'll post my result in a month or two.

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    I know for a fact he was booted off of the site, so finding his records there is not possible, because he was deleted. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share the site name, if I am will the mods please give me the green light, and I'd be more than happy to provide it. Your confused about ROI, so I will set you straight. A win at -180 vs a win at -110 is not the same ROI. risk 110 win 100 ROI= 90.9% ROI a win at -180 to win 100 is 55.6% ROI, huge difference my friend. I did not compare you to Hitler, so stop the attacking, and keep it civil please

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    Andthewinneris,

    Keep schooling the guy. He will learn one day. And I just checked out Oskeim's page. He's played over 50 MLB plays and only 2 dogs at plus money. Some of the faves were slight faves, but there's too many high juice plays. You have to hit at a pretty high % if you want to just break even. No thanks!

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    Once again Players that don't PLAY TO WIN..............................

    It amazes how so many cant chalk up the Juice in order to win. Keep playing all of your dogs and we will see you at the payday loan store getting money.

    Oskeim is Legit 100% Will he make you Rich, well maybe if your bankroll is 5 million +

    In regards to his 5tar club all records are legit and he has made profits long-term. Again there is a poster on this thread that admitted he made some small profit and then didn't stay with him?

    Once again The players that are looking to strike Gold in a Week.

    In cyber world their are about 10 Touts that are 100% Legit. Rest Suck...............................

    Oskeim is in top 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paw View Post
    Once again Players that don't PLAY TO WIN..............................

    It amazes how so many cant chalk up the Juice in order to win. Keep playing all of your dogs and we will see you at the payday loan store getting money.

    Oskeim is Legit 100% Will he make you Rich, well maybe if your bankroll is 5 million +

    In regards to his 5tar club all records are legit and he has made profits long-term. Again there is a poster on this thread that admitted he made some small profit and then didn't stay with him?

    Once again The players that are looking to strike Gold in a Week.

    In cyber world their are about 10 Touts that are 100% Legit. Rest Suck...............................

    Oskeim is in top 10.
    Like anyone else, one stands up and one begs to differ. I can assure anyone here that he does not hit 64.3% of 600 plays, at -110 odds, now if in fact those plays are averaging -200 or -250, then it is a different story, but comparing his results in ATS sports (not MLB) the number of plays he has over -120 were a total of 4 for March. If the case is true he is hitting 64.3% and his avg play is at -250 that in itself is misleading, as all the would be subscriber sees is 64.3%. The odds of someone hitting 64.3% at -110 odds are ZERO! Do the math!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    Like anyone else, one stands up and one begs to differ. I can assure anyone here that he does not hit 64.3% of 600 plays, at -110 odds, now if in fact those plays are averaging -200 or -250, then it is a different story, but comparing his results in ATS sports (not MLB) the number of plays he has over -120 were a total of 4 for March. If the case is true he is hitting 64.3% and his avg play is at -250 that in itself is misleading, as all the would be subscriber sees is 64.3%. The odds of someone hitting 64.3% at -110 odds are ZERO! Do the math!
    Let me rephrase that: The odds of hitting 64.3% of over 600 picks at -110 odds are ZERO!

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    64.3% over 600 plays at -110 juice? Never!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    I know for a fact he was booted off of the site, so finding his records there is not possible, because he was deleted. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share the site name, if I am will the mods please give me the green light, and I'd be more than happy to provide it. Your confused about ROI, so I will set you straight. A win at -180 vs a win at -110 is not the same ROI. risk 110 win 100 ROI= 90.9% ROI a win at -180 to win 100 is 55.6% ROI, huge difference my friend. I did not compare you to Hitler, so stop the attacking, and keep it civil please
    Keep it civil = calling me hitler follower (post 49)? Come the f on lol and keep your advice to yourself.

    Your problem is that you only take a single game as example instead of taking a whole year of play average. Anyway I don't want to discuss math with you, all I want is to make sure his result are real. If all games posted on his website haven't been altered then he's good. As long as the stars/units won are real, that's what matters to me. Anyway all i've learned from this discussion is that nobody have a single clue. I'll do my homework and track his play for a couple of months.

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    You're the one calling everybody "retard" donger so if you want it civil, start with yourself.

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    This escalated quickly...His plays, records, and units won are 100% accurate. Yes, he hits 60% or so on 5* plays, but as you see from his website, they are not average -110 odds. Majority high ML plays.

    What's so hard to understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDonger View Post
    Keep it civil = calling me hitler follower (post 49)? Come the f on lol and keep your advice to yourself.

    Your problem is that you only take a single game as example instead of taking a whole year of play average. Anyway I don't want to discuss math with you, all I want is to make sure his result are real. If all games posted on his website haven't been altered then he's good. As long as the stars/units won are real, that's what matters to me. Anyway all i've learned from this discussion is that nobody have a single clue. I'll do my homework and track his play for a couple of months.
    here is what I posted: Hitler had a lot of followers too! please explain how that translates to me calling you Hitler? Twice you have begraded me for doing so, simply not true! I'm not a hater, but apparently you can't help yourself from being one, I wish you luck with his picks, you'll need it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JF301 View Post
    This escalated quickly...His plays, records, and units won are 100% accurate. Yes, he hits 60% or so on 5* plays, but as you see from his website, they are not average -110 odds. Majority high ML plays.

    What's so hard to understand?
    JF, I went through all his march plays (excluding the couple of days of MLB), he had just 4 pick for the month at greater than -120 odds, so I understand what you are saying, but that simply has not been true, at least the most recent 30 days I examined. So, yes, it is hard to understand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    JF, I went through all his march plays (excluding the couple of days of MLB), he had just 4 pick for the month at greater than -120 odds, so I understand what you are saying, but that simply has not been true, at least the most recent 30 days I examined. So, yes, it is hard to understand!
    Go back a year and tally up all his 5* plays and get back to me.

    All I'm saying is his plays/units match up exactly what's on his website. The ORIGINAL question that was asked in the beginning of this thread. Yes, I did have his service first hand to monitor. No, I did not like big ML plays and therefore didn't play him or continue using his service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderguy101 View Post
    You're the one calling everybody "retard" donger so if you want it civil, start with yourself.
    Only called retard the guy calling me hitler follower lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    here is what I posted: Hitler had a lot of followers too! please explain how that translates to me calling you Hitler? Twice you have begraded me for doing so, simply not true! I'm not a hater, but apparently you can't help yourself from being one, I wish you luck with his picks, you'll need it
    Not even gonna botter answering to your message anymore. Such ignore, much feature. very awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by JF301 View Post
    This escalated quickly...His plays, records, and units won are 100% accurate. Yes, he hits 60% or so on 5* plays, but as you see from his website, they are not average -110 odds. Majority high ML plays.

    What's so hard to understand?
    IDK but many people seem to have an issue with that. I'll be tracking his play for a month or two, if you want I'll PM u the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDonger View Post

    IDK but many people seem to have an issue with that. I'll be tracking his play for a month or two, if you want I'll PM u the result.

    No worries, I know what the results will be. If you find anything fishy, let us know.

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    I feel so sad that anyone would fall for this scumbag. I guess what this business is all about.

    Jump on message boards and try to defend yourself and build business.

    I would rather bet Steve Stevens than this fuckin scumbag.

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    I will bet a million bucks (honestly) at what a dirtball all of this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    Oneguy- Website too complicated for you. You should stick with Highrollerplays and Presidentialclub1, following them has really paid off.
    Dude, why you took a poke at me? I was merely stating my opinion to Donger only and did not say anything bad about this Oskiem guy or you. Are you shilling? Or you want Donger to buy and post so you can get it for free? Either way, uncool bro.

    Donger, nothing I can recommend right now. But in a few months, RAS NCAABB is something you should definitely consider. BOL looking for something you can use though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneguy View Post
    Dude, why you took a poke at me? I was merely stating my opinion to Donger only and did not say anything bad about this Oskiem guy or you. Are you shilling? Or you want Donger to buy and post so you can get it for free? Either way, uncool bro.

    Donger, nothing I can recommend right now. But in a few months, RAS NCAABB is something you should definitely consider. BOL looking for something you can use though.
    Yeah I desperately would like to get in on RAS... thing is it's wayyyyyyyyy to expansive. I have a 6700$ bankroll I can't put 38% (2500$/year) on a service. I'm trying to find something between 1000-1250 for 1 year. Maybe next year if I get above 10k

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