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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Not fighting it.... I will probably skip betting the side. I like Denver but it's a coin flip. The Pats could not match up, thats a given. But figure in four sacks and a pick and Manning going 19-34-1 for 248 yards and who knows? He struggles against this D but Wilson will struggle a little more. The Under is the play even though its fighting history.
    Why figure in 4 sacks?

    Seattle has 3 QB sacks this post season.

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    Books will get all there den money back. Every red cent. Pauly last years game has nothing to dfo with this years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Books will get all there den money back. Every red cent. Pauly last years game has nothing to dfo with this years.
    Public doesn't bet this early. They don't want money locked up for 2 weeks.

    Most of the people who are betting this early are sharps.

    Percentage wise it will be 55% / 45% by game time.

    Lakerboy, after you become paid poster, you have a 25% winning rate. Get your head out of your ass....if you can't figure out who is betting this early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    2nd year QB's dont beat veteran QB's like manning unless your name is tom brady...
    or Rivers or Roethlisberger or Sanchez...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Public doesn't bet this early. They don't want money locked up for 2 weeks.

    Most of the people who are betting this early are sharps.

    Percentage wise it will be 55% / 45% by game time.

    Lakerboy, after you become paid poster, you have a 25% winning rate. Get your head out of your ass....if you can't figure out who is betting this early.
    Unless the Sharps are planning to buy back late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    or Rivers or Roethlisberger or Sanchez...
    I am talking about superbowl. When teams have 2 weeks to prepare.

    Rivers and sanchez never made to superbowl.

    And hasselback is not even in the same league as manning. And hasselback was playing in his 3rd year in 2005 when he faced ben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Unless the Sharps are planning to buy back late.
    I agree. They WILL buy back late for the middle.

    But it also doesn't mean public is on denver.

    These number are always skewed....and just fading public is a sure fire way to get buried.

    You need to look at matchups and situations instead of betting %s. Lakerboy got buried in these playoffs looking at betting %s. Now he is chasing with 1 million dollar bet...again by looking at these % numbers. Some people never learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post

    Rivers and sanchez never made to superbowl.

    Will P. Rivers or M. Sanchez play a SB game as a Starter

    Yes +2000
    No -2750
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    No vyom. I took the better team +2.5.

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    This game was already played....PManning vs a "great" defense and a short scrub QB. Dumbasses will stay be saying "All Manning beat was Rex Grossman and Russell Wilson". Look out for Holiday too....already ran one back in NY and had one called back vs San Diego. SF/Seattle game made me laugh....with 9 guys in the box and the other 2 close. Its was like Nebraska/Oklahoma in the wishbone days when nobody would/could throw the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Thank you. I am feeling more confident that denver will win....now that lakerboy and sbr_john don't believe in manning.

    2nd year QB's dont beat veteran QB's like manning unless your name is tom brady and have spies stealing signals.

    Proabbaly last chance for manning to win superbowl....NFL will make sure he wins his 2nd superbowl. Referees decide most of the games in NFL.
    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post

    Wow! VYOM on them early. Kind of surprised. Everyone talks about Manning beating Seattle's defense. What about Wilson/Lynch running wild on Bronco's defense? I know it's cold weather... but I wouldn't underestimate Seattle's offense. When they want to open it up... they are quite capable. I don't really know how many OMAHAS Manning needs to say to win? Possibly at least 50?

    Hard to go against VYOM... the guy is money every single time.

    I'm still leaning Seattle. Until line shifts on Super Bowl Sunday.

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    lakerboy... aren't you just a bit nervous about your One Million Dollar bet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    I am talking about superbowl. When teams have 2 weeks to prepare.

    Rivers and sanchez never made to superbowl.

    And hasselback is not even in the same league as manning. And hasselback was playing in his 3rd year in 2005 when he faced ben.
    Hasselbeck was in his 7th year at age 30, which was his best year.

    Rivers, Sanchez and Roethlisberger beat Peyton. Peyton even had his precious bye before losing to Rivers and Ben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    lakerboy... aren't you just a bit nervous about your One Million Dollar bet ?

    No supremely confident. If game is rigged I get money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post

    No supremely confident. If game is rigged I get money back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Hasselbeck was in his 7th year at age 30, which was his best year.

    Rivers, Sanchez and Roethlisberger beat Peyton. Peyton even had his precious bye before losing to Rivers and Ben.

    hasselback became starter in 2003.

    And he is no where near the caliber of manning.

    Not to mention seattle got srewed in that game.

    superbowl is different case compared to regular playoff games.

    Young QB's struggle under big lights. There are very few exceptions to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    2nd year QB's dont beat veteran QB's like manning unless your name is tom brady and have spies stealing signals.
    Ben Roesthlisberger. Even though people always argue about SB XL because of crazy calls, etc.

    Just saying that because I'm a total facts freak and spotted an error. Not trying to argue with ya because I've definitely tailed your picks, you're a good capper IMO.

    And for the record I'm totally on Denver here. Manning will shred that D. Best QB playing the game right now bar none.

    EDIT: Sorry if someone already brought this up I only got through the first page before I posted lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt1144 View Post
    Ben Roesthlisberger. Even though people always argue about SB XL because of crazy calls, etc.

    Just saying that because I'm a total facts freak and spotted an error. Not trying to argue with ya because I've definitely tailed your picks, you're a good capper IMO.

    And for the record I'm totally on Denver here. Manning will shred that D. Best QB playing the game right now bar none.

    EDIT: Sorry if someone already brought this up I only got through the first page before I posted lol
    Read my comments above.

    Hasselback was 3rd year starter in 2005. He was no where near being a veteran.

    Experience matters a lot in superbowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Read my comments above.

    Hasselback was 3rd year starter in 2005. He was no where near being a veteran.

    Experience matters a lot in superbowls.
    Which is why I'm all over Denver. And man I can't wait to hear what excuses LB comes up with when they lose and he loses his air million dollars. So sick of this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt1144 View Post
    Which is why I'm all over Denver. And man I can't wait to hear what excuses LB comes up with when they lose and he loses his air million dollars. So sick of this guy.
    You're sick of me? You might be the only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Read my comments above.

    Hasselback was 3rd year starter in 2005. He was no where near being a veteran.

    Experience matters a lot in superbowls.
    You are again wrong on Hasselbeck, he became starter in 2001. He had over 5 years as a starter at age 30.

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    Manning is a big forehead white goon. Thought for sure the American public would be favorable to the notion of Mannings godlyness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No supremely confident. If game is rigged I get money back.
    If I'm the only one I don't know what to say about everyone else here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    I agree. They WILL buy back late for the middle.

    But it also doesn't mean public is on denver.

    These number are always skewed....and just fading public is a sure fire way to get buried.

    You need to look at matchups and situations instead of betting %s. Lakerboy got buried in these playoffs looking at betting %s. Now he is chasing with 1 million dollar bet...again by looking at these % numbers. Some people never learn.
    My buddies book he took his 50 worst bettors. Seven already bet and took Denver. Actually u have to be a jackass to bet it now without knowing what the weather is gonna be. Sharp or no sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    or Rivers or Roethlisberger or Sanchez...


    Roethlisberger,had the worst QB rating ever when he won SB as 2nd year starter.......

    Rivers,sanchez..........WTF you talkin bout

    git da fukk outta here with this shat....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No vyom. I took the better team +2.5.
    Why would ya bet ATS then?

    The "better" team WILL win and cover...

    Lack of confidence I see..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Read my comments above.

    Hasselback was 3rd year starter in 2005. He was no where near being a veteran.

    Experience matters a lot in superbowls.
    IS Everything.....
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    I see Moreno having a good game. Seattle's strength is their secondary, not their front 7. That allows them to single coverage more often but I promise you, Manning is better than the Seattle secondary. They haven't faced anyone near as smart as Manning. He gets rid of the ball quick. He may get sacked once but he doesn't get hit often. Too smart. He'll audible at the line and things should open up for Moreno as Seattle realizes they cannot win in man to man.

    I'll bump this after the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Roethlisberger,had the worst QB rating ever when he won SB as 2nd year starter.......

    Rivers,sanchez..........WTF you talkin bout

    git da fukk outta here with this shat....
    Goes to show that QB play isn't the end all. Rivers & Sanchez beat Peyton in the playoffs as a 2nd year starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Roethlisberger,had the worst QB rating ever when he won SB as 2nd year starter.......
    The "EXPERIENCED" leader of SB 40 was Jerome Bettis.......

    Ray Lewis was SB 47's "EXPERIENCED" leader

    ALWAYS Look for the KEY leaders when it comes to the big dance and nothing else.......

    Throw all stats/consensuses away........

    Simple as that.....

    Why da you think 9ers picked up Bolden?

    If 9ers would have went to this SB,the pick would be much harder to decipher.......

    But they did not......

    Free money is for the taking........

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    As long as Manning makes the right reads, he should win

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    You are again wrong on Hasselbeck, he became starter in 2001. He had over 5 years as a starter at age 30.
    No. You are wrong again.


    Matthew Michael "Matt" Hasselbeck (born September 25, 1975)[1] is an American football quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts of the National Football League (NFL).[2] He was drafted in the sixth round of the 1998 NFL Draft by the Green Bay Packers. After a season on the practice squad and two seasons backing up Brett Favre, he was traded to the Seattle Seahawks in 2001. Hasselbeck gained the starting role in 2003, and led Seattle to six playoff appearances and a Super Bowl appearance; he was selected to three Pro Bowls and an All-Pro selection.

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    Manning is God, WTF are you even talking about?

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    The guy is trying to make it look like he's on Denver, but it sounds like he's trying to get you on Seattle. Read his post carefully.

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