1. 01-19-14 04:57 PM #1
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    Was Spy Gate as bad as MLB Steroid users?

    Cheating is cheating and the Patriots cheated as a team. Haven't won s hit since then.
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  2. 01-19-14 05:00 PM #2
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    All of the Pats apologists will say no, but we never saw or heard exactly what they were doing and what they had gathered.....All of the evidence was destroyed by the NFL (For what reason )

    There have been rumors of much more than just the video guy on the sideline trying to get signals illegally.....Maybe one day we will find out
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    There was no way to beat the Rams if it wasn't for spygate. Supposedly they stopped a team who was averaging 5 TD's per game without cheating.
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  4. 01-19-14 05:04 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    All of the Pats apologists will say no, but we never saw or heard exactly what they were doing and what they had gathered.....All of the evidence was destroyed by the NFL (For what reason )

    There have been rumors of much more than just the video guy on the sideline trying to get signals illegally.....Maybe one day we will find out
    The NFL took a 1st round draft pick away from them. Of course they were wrong. The league destroyed the evidence because it is a black eye on one of the top franchises in the game and they want it to go away.
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  5. 01-19-14 05:06 PM #5
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    At least with Steroids 50% to 75% of MLB was taking steroids at one point. How can you argue that these guys were getting an unfair advantage when most others were doing the same thing.

    With Spygate this was the Patriots gaining an unfair advantage over the rest of the league.
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  6. 01-19-14 05:07 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Gold View Post
    The NFL took a 1st round draft pick away from them. Of course they were wrong. The league destroyed the evidence because it is a black eye on one of the top franchises in the game and they want it to go away.
    I know what they did was wrong....The got hammered with fines and draft pick penalties......I'm just saying what they did may have been alot worse than we thought, such a gutless move to destroy the evidence even though I get it
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  7. 01-19-14 05:10 PM #7
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    Where there is smoke there is fire.

    The Rams, Panthers and Eagles were potentially robbed of the Super Bowl. Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme and Donovan Mcnabb were cheated.
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  8. 01-19-14 06:00 PM #8
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    So you honestly believe Pats were only team doing it? In the NFL very few plays come as surprise to teams. They have a strong idea what is coming their way but they still need to execute.

    Patriots have been the NFL's most consistent franchise for over a decade. Those who disagree are entitled to their opinion.
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  9. 01-19-14 06:05 PM #9
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    Every team in the NFL and NCAAF cheats in one way or another. If you're not cheating you're not trying.
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  10. 01-19-14 06:15 PM #10
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    Not even close. I think the tuck rule was worse than spy gate.

    The Steroids era, while being the most entertaining baseball of my life, absolutely tarnished the game due to so many great players getting caught up. Now a guy can't have a randomly good season without a gigantic question mark looming over his performance.

    Baseball is the only major sport not making huge revenue gains. Every other American sport to include college sports (especially college sports) are bringing in record amounts of money. Baseball is getting left in the dust and it is sad as it was the first sport I ever got into as a kid.
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  11. 01-19-14 06:15 PM #11
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    What's their record after spy gate? I'll help you out, it's just as good as before.
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  12. 01-19-14 06:28 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnickell100 View Post
    What's their record after spy gate? I'll help you out, it's just as good as before.
    winning 50% of games in the playoffs from 05 till today is as good as going 9-0 in 9 str8 playoffs games... from 01 to 04?



    oh, you meant just as good in the regular season! gotcha!
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  13. 01-19-14 06:37 PM #13
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    So you really think that every other f u king team wasn't doing the same thing and just stopped when the NFL decided to take it out on the pats cmmmon man
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  14. 01-19-14 06:39 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    So you honestly believe Pats were only team doing it? In the NFL very few plays come as surprise to teams. They have a strong idea what is coming their way but they still need to execute.

    Patriots have been the NFL's most consistent franchise for over a decade. Those who disagree are entitled to their opinion.
    14 point under dogs

    Ohhh and no, other teams don't send spies to go video tape the other teams practices and walk throughs. Other teams don't get stripped for 1st round draft picks.

    People always say Bellicheck hated Mangini because Mangini had dirt on him with all the cheating.
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  15. 01-19-14 09:18 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Gold View Post
    14 point under dogs

    Ohhh and no, other teams don't send spies to go video tape the other teams practices and walk throughs. Other teams don't get stripped for 1st round draft picks.

    People always say Bellicheck hated Mangini because Mangini had dirt on him with all the cheating.
    14 pt dogs that played them tough earlier in the regular season at home.....in fact if antowain smith hadnt coughed up a fumble at the 3 they might have beaten the rams in the regular season.....and warner threw for 400 in that game
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  16. 01-21-14 07:15 PM #16
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    Patriots go from 10-0 to start Brady's career to a 8-8 .500 team after spygate.

    Will Brady's legacy be tarnished? He used to be Mr. Clutch before either Peyton Manning or Joe Flacco knocks him out of the playoffs every year.
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  17. 01-21-14 08:35 PM #17
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    C-Gold, why don't you go do what you do best.......spew racial hatred over in the saloon. Spygate?!! That's all you've got in 2014? The Patriots have been the most consistently successful franchise in all of sports, before and after SnitchGate. Why do you think head coaches call in plays with their mouth hidden by the playchart? Because they all try to figure out each other's signals. It's been going on for 50 years or more, and still goes on today. Goodell is an unabashed Jets fan and did whatever he could do to stick it to the Pats. Let it go!!
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  18. 01-21-14 08:46 PM #18
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    some of these guys are funny...they make claims....and get hit with irrefutable facts....and then they just come up with another line to bash the pats
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  19. 01-21-14 08:48 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Gold View Post
    Patriots go from 10-0 to start Brady's career to a 8-8 .500 team after spygate.

    Will Brady's legacy be tarnished? He used to be Mr. Clutch before either Peyton Manning or Joe Flacco knocks him out of the playoffs every year.
    so what if they were 26-0 in those games....and if they had...they would have added some more wins....so what if the patriots were 30 something and 0 in the playoffs......would you watch the nfl anymore? would anyone? .....did you expect teams to stop showing up to play them? did you think teams would just show up and kneel down without bothering to game plan for them? its the penetrating nfl guy.....you cant win every fuckin game....god some of you are fuckin pathetic
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