1. 11-10-13 05:23 PM #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke View Post
    No coin check in you dumb fukk

    That is why GB was PK at home
    yea man cause cause everybody knew Wallace would be out after 5 plays
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  2. 11-10-13 05:35 PM #142
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    So much for that vaunted GB running game.
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  3. 11-10-13 05:38 PM #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke View Post
    No coin check in you dumb fukk

    That is why GB was PK at home
    Are you trolling, or literally the dumbest person on the board? I can never tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTL View Post
    So much for that vaunted GB running game.
    You expect their running game to function in its regular capacity with a scout-team QB?

    I'm starting to wonder if some of you even watch football.
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  5. 11-10-13 05:40 PM #145
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    Whining about a game that ended 3 years ago? Get over it.
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  6. 11-10-13 05:54 PM #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    You expect their running game to function in its regular capacity with a scout-team QB?

    I'm starting to wonder if some of you even watch football.
    No, not me. That post was directed mostly at the smartass that was tossing around the Packers as the 3rd best rushing team in the league like the loss of Rodgers and Cobb were meaningless.
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  7. 11-10-13 05:55 PM #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Isn't Clay back this week?
    He's a shadow of himself with that coconut for a hand.
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  8. 11-10-13 05:58 PM #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTL View Post
    No, not me. That post was directed mostly at the smartass that was tossing around the Packers as the 3rd best rushing team in the league like the loss of Rodgers and Cobb were meaningless.
    Ground game would've been much more effective if Seneca played the entire game. Obviously not nearly as solid as when Rodgers is in there, but Seneca got a week of first-string reps and would've been able to operate the offense a hell of a lot more competently than what we saw out there today (no offense to Tolzien -- not his fault).

    I'm not sure if any NFL team could come close to winning a game or even looking remotely functional with their scout-team QB.
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  9. 11-10-13 09:37 PM #149
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    mccoy ate clay mathews and gb defense today. was a workhorse. foles didn't play all that but stats will show he played good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiLLx View Post
    Yes because we were all expecting ANOTHER packers quarterback injury.
    You seriously think Wallace would have saved that game??


    Tolzien is an improvement over Wallace.

    Regardless, it doesn't matter. They could have started Tolzien and ended up in the same boat. This match was all about the hot hand vs. a bad QB situation. People backing GB are blind. They think that because it's in Lambeau it's an autoplay.

    Philly is at home vs. Washington next week. Jump all over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRyan View Post
    You seriously think Wallace would have saved that game??


    Tolzien is an improvement over Wallace.
    Your football knowledge just went out the window with this comment.

    Think about what you just posted for a minute -- and no, I'm not talking about physical ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Your football knowledge just went out the window with this comment.

    Think about what you just posted for a minute -- and no, I'm not talking about physical ability.
    It's my opinion that Tolzien is better than Wallace. So what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRyan View Post
    It's my opinion that Tolzien is better than Wallace. So what?
    It's not that he is or isn't physically better. That's not the point.

    To say that Tolzien is an "improvement over Wallace" when he's never played a single down in the NFL and didn't get a chance to prepare at all with the first-string offense this week -- compared to Wallace, who has been around for forever and did get all the first-string reps -- is asinine, regardless of skill set.
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  14. 11-10-13 11:18 PM #154
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    One player teams don't win in the nfl. Pack should have known better.
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  15. 11-10-13 11:22 PM #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    No coin off basis again.

    Packers just lost at home to a backup QB. This team wins the NFC with Rodg. You're undervaluing him. This line was going to be -8 with him. Rodgers worth well over 7.

    I'm not saying GB loses but the line is accurate. Lacy isn't nearly as effective, nor Nelson without A Rodg.

    Not to mention Packers D gave up 27 points to McCown.
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  16. 11-10-13 11:32 PM #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    It's not that he is or isn't physically better. That's not the point.

    To say that Tolzien is an "improvement over Wallace" when he's never played a single down in the NFL and didn't get a chance to prepare at all with the first-string offense this week -- compared to Wallace, who has been around for forever and did get all the first-string reps -- is asinine, regardless of skill set.


    Ya....it's so asinine....because we all know that it's impossible for someone off the practice squad to be better than one of the worst QB's in the league.

    Tolzien was a top performer in that game. 280 yards at 61%. Wallace could not have done that.

    So asinine of me to even suggest such a thing.

    If there's anyone here who's knowledge of football is at question here it would be you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    If you'd have told me beforehand that Seneca would be out by mid-first quarter and I'd have to rely on a scout-team QB to win the bet, I'd obviously had passed. Circumstances changed during the game. Had Wallace played, I would have made the bet again. You can't replace his first-string reps at practice and in-game experience at the snap of a finger for some kid who's never played an NFL down before.
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  18. 11-11-13 12:04 AM #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRyan View Post


    Ya....it's so asinine....because we all know that it's impossible for someone off the practice squad to be better than one of the worst QB's in the league.

    Tolzien was a top performer in that game. 280 yards at 61%. Wallace could not have done that.

    So asinine of me to even suggest such a thing.

    If there's anyone here who's knowledge of football is at question here it would be you.
    Did you see Tolzien in the red zone? Threw a huge pick at the 5 in the second quarter, couldn't pick up a first down that led to a missed field goal on the next possession, had to settle for a field goal on 1st and goal from the 8 right before the half, and by the time he finally cashed in on a trip, it was 20-3. Then he misfires again on the next possession and they settle for a FG, and he throws three straight incompletions after Foles fumbles inside the 10.

    That is called lack of experience and lack of NFL snaps. Again, nothing against Tolzien, but you aren't going to win an NFL game with some scout team kid who is a blank slate. Period.

    I rest my case.

    Throwing out arbitrary stats that were accumulated after the game was decided doesn't prove anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Did you see Tolzien in the red zone? Threw a huge pick at the 5 in the second quarter, couldn't pick up a first down that led to a missed field goal on the next possession, had to settle for a field goal on 1st and goal from the 8 right before the half, and by the time he finally cashed in on a trip, it was 20-3. Then he misfires again on the next possession and they settle for a FG, and he throws three straight incompletions after Foles fumbles inside the 10.

    That is called lack of experience and lack of NFL snaps. Again, nothing against Tolzien, but you aren't going to win an NFL game with some scout team kid who is a blank slate. Period.

    I rest my case.

    Throwing out arbitrary stats that were accumulated after the game was decided doesn't prove anything.
    Oh..I thought you said it wasn't about ability?

    Regardless, Philly was the play even if Wallace played the whole game. He would not have made the difference.

    I rest my case.
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  20. 11-11-13 12:28 AM #160
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    TJ Yates says you can be thrown into a game and win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRyan View Post
    Oh..I thought you said it wasn't about ability.
    It isn't. It's about experience.

    Re-read my posts re: GB's red zone offense. 10 points in six trips. It's not that Tolzien is a bad QB or Seneca is a good QB, but when you combine first-team practice reps with receivers, backs and linemen with nine years as an NFL QB, you are much better situationally than a kid carrying a clipboard suddenly being thrown to the wolves.

    I'm not saying the bet would've won, necessarily, if Wallace had played the entire game, but I would've liked my chances much more instead of what transpired today.
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  22. 11-11-13 12:41 AM #162
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    Refs made a huge mistake blowing the whistle on the Foles fumble. Would've been a 7 point game w 10 minutes left. Those morons should learn to err on the side of caution.
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  23. 11-11-13 12:41 AM #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    TJ Yates says you can be thrown into a game and win.
    Yates is bad, very bad! Thank god my Texans finally put in Keenum.
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  24. 11-11-13 02:29 AM #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    ....but when you combine first-team practice reps with receivers, backs and linemen with nine years as an NFL QB, you are much better situationally than a kid carrying a clipboard suddenly being thrown to the wolves.
    Clipboard? I bet you Tolzein has taken more snaps this year than Wallace has in his last 2-3 seasons.

    Better situationally? Obviously not. Tolzein out performed anything that Wallace could have done. Ill assume that Wallace has had some practice with the team. He had 11 completions for about 100 yards last week when Rodgers went out. One week of practice is supposed to make the difference?

    So if SITUATIONALLY it's better with Wallace then how could that be when you have a rookie off the farm team in his 1st game ever who clearly is better?

    Face it. You have no idea what you are talking about. Wallace is not better than Tolzein. Trying to claim that GB had better chances with Wallace is stupid. He already showed everyone last week how lousy he is. Wallace was replaced by a better QB and they STILL lost the game.

    So YES, Tolzein was an improvement over Wallace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTL View Post
    Nice try, but Eddie Lacy is currently 8th in league rushing. GL on your GB wager.

    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Gruber View Post
    Refs made a huge mistake blowing the whistle on the Foles fumble. Would've been a 7 point game w 10 minutes left. Those morons should learn to err on the side of caution.
    The refs were terrible from start to finish. I don't know how they overturned that call based, it was inconclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRyan View Post
    Clipboard? I bet you Tolzein has taken more snaps this year than Wallace has in his last 2-3 seasons.
    Again, WTF are you talking about? Yesterday was Tolzien's NFL debut.

    He'd never taken a snap before yesterday in an NFL game. Ever.

    Are you drunk?
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    Snaps on the practice squad.

    Before last week, Wallace had not thrown a regular season pass in years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRyan View Post
    Snaps on the practice squad.

    Before last week, Wallace had not thrown a regular season pass in years.
    So you think their third-string QB got more snaps on the practice squad than their second-string QB, who was starting on Sunday? WTF?
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  31. 11-11-13 03:56 PM #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    You can pick up some great bargains but you have to be quick.

    225-1 Baltimore looks tasty now, good chance they beat Bengals...

    Love to get Packers if they lose a few more and then get Rodgers back. Top 2 in NFC.
    65-1 now....futures move big and fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    65-1 now....futures move big and fast.

    And kill bankrolls slowly but surely
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