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    RedWingFan68
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    The need for internet sportsbooks??

    Hello,

    Newbie here,

    I just joined this forum today, I have been browsing through it for a week or so however.

    I just wanted to say hello, and I have been spending some time reading through some of the threads found here, it seems that quite a few of the posts are about sportsbooks not paying, or folding, or not wanting to pay out on time, or have extremely ridculous bonus rules etc etc.

    I myself have never wagered with an internet sportsbook before, nor after reading some of the horror stories assocated with them that I have found on this forum, do I think I would want to!

    I hae gambled before at a couple of online casinos, and had no trouble whatsoever as far as being paid any winnings I had coming to me, I also am a member of a well known poker site.

    I LOVE to wager on sports , and have been luckily able to do so without having to do it from online sportsbooks, I am sure there are some good ones out there, it's that I seem to be reading mostly about all the bad ones etc.

    I am fortunate enough to have contacts in a country where LOCAL sports gamblng is legal, the sportsbook , also 100% legal and licenced by the gov't to take LOCAL wagers inside of that country.

    I simply send $$ to my contact, along with the wagers I want placed, he places them, and if I win, I have the options to keep playing the money or cash out the very next day... I have done both , over and over, without troubles.

    It's so simple actually as the guy gets a ticket from the local sportsbok, much like a lottery ticket that convenience stores give out, if your ticket is a winner, the sportsbook is OBLIGATED to pay you the winning ticket or face closure and immediate suspension of their gambling licence.

    The guy charges me 7% of any winnings, any losing bets, he doesn't ask for any % at all which is great. Also, I never have to worry about the book not paying out as the payouts are guaranteed on a daily basis nd there re several books to choose from.... no having to screw around with bonuses, no having to worry if I am going to be paid, no brain dead customer service to deal with, etc etc, so much easier for me indeed.

    The lines of the local establishments are available online, so I use the lines of the actual sportsbook where the ticket will be placed, sometimes the line movements are super slow at these establishments, and you can find lines that have changed in Vegas, but still not there and grab them. This has worked out for me quite a few times.

    You can only do straight or parley bets, nothing else,but I only bet straight so for me it doesnt matter., Also, I think that the max bet is around $900 USD, but, you can buy as many tickets in the max as you want, say if you wanted to lay 3 dimes on a game, you would probably end up with 4 tickets, three in $880-$800 and one in $660-$600

    To make a long story short, I am never restricted for the amount I want to lay, if I wanted to lay 5k on a side, no worries at all, it would just be that you would have several tickets to cash out , but all cashable the next morning after your event.

    In the 7 years that I have been doing this, I can honestly say that I have never had a gripe like those I read on this forum, nor have I had to worry about anything, what this guy does is his bread and butter and he does quite well at 7% so he's happy and everybody is happy.

    I plan on using this forum more to hear opinions on games, look for picks , analize games etc and hopefully meet some fellow sports enthusiasts here!

    Myself, I am not too bad with making some $ with football and hockey, especially the hockey..that's where I really make a killing in the country where I have my bets placed as they have no clue whatsoever about the NHL! My guy down there actually follows me with the hockey bets lol.

    This is how I get around things:


    Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006

    Section 5363, Money Transfers

    This section covers money transfers.
    The bill states "[n]o person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept" any money transfers in any way from a person participating in unlawful Internet gambling.
    This includes ************, electronic fund transfers, and even paper checks.
    But the restriction on transfers is limited to Internet gambling businesses, not mere players. It also would not cover payment processors or ISPs, even under a theory of aiding and abetting.
    The Act clearly does not make it a crime to knowingly transmit funds for illegal gambling. Neither the player nor the intermediary can be charged with this crime.
    The language of the Act even eliminates the possibility of charging financial institutions and computer hosts under a theory of aiding and abetting, since it explicitly states, in the definitions section, that being in the business of gambling does not include a "financial transaction provider," or an ISP.[17]


    Firstly, the sportsbook in the country where I play is accepting a LOCAL bet placed by a person in cash who physically walks in the establishment and places the wager like hundreds of others on a daily basis, so the actual book has no idea, nor do they care where the guy from the street who walked in to bet with them got his money from, thus eliminating them from any problems.
    Secondly, "Neither the player nor the intermediary can be charged with this crime"....the guy down there is NOT breaking any local laws, so therefore neither myself nor he will ever be in a circumstance we don't want.

    All in all, it's a pretty cool way around all the hassles that I have been reading about here on this forum,and the best part is that my $ is guaranteed when I win, my personal opinion is that this is the way to go, unless somebody here can persuade me otherwise?

    Thanks for your time and I look forward to more posts.

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    thats a lot to read when fightin a hangover. Hopefully, someone else will chime in

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    que?

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    Red Wings call me

    Your a fukkin wreck man
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    So basically you are saying that you live in a country where it's easier to make a bet and to cash out?
    Good for ya!

    But in all seriousness what bothers me is the 7% you have to pay on your winning tickets...to me that is steep. If your volume is decent enough I would try and negotiate it to bring it down to 3-4%.

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    well... funny the replies... I am good with what I do...sorry abt u hangover..lol..in all seriousness.... yes I do get to bet without the BS u guys gotta go through....so I guess if I am happy abt that , thats prob all that matters..... JS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post


    Red Wings call me

    Your a fukkin wreck man
    lol...ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post


    Red Wings call me

    Your a fukkin wreck man
    u should maybe have a look beyond the internet...my friend.,,why not try it out....than shoot your mouth off...Just saying..if u were to try $50 or $100...what would that possibly cost u.... if u got paid as said.... guess that u would prob promote it... put you comments where u money is.. just saying..... can hook u up... again..50 to 100 bucks small price to pay to lead honest bettors on this forum to a good thing.... again.. unless u have tried it..maybe best to take the leap and go from there.. I guess that u could do a REVIEW at that point so others could make their own opinion.......wow
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    what planet are you from?

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    and as the FOUNDER of this site.....what a great thing this may be to spread......

    not looking to f..k with u...but seriously...what would $100 be to u to prove this method.....Just saying...

    if YOU were to verify that it indeed works.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    what planet are you from?
    obviously one with more info than u,,k enough with the insults as I am bringing real biz

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    lol 7% on winnings.......

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    would love to bring it down to 5% or less...... but best I can do

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    lol.... i get paid the next day... no bonus BS to go through. DO U,,,, loll I would wager that u do not....and have to play bonus $ to collect.... maybe read my thread... 7%....small price to pay if I dont have to pay bonuses..play though $100..win ..no bonus playthorough as does not exist....i am not gonna change my ways... u guys have fun playing the books who are NOT REALLY LICENSEED TO PAY U GUYS..... me.... I doing awesome....lol..also...no U.S.A. BS! Beat that ..... JS

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    so figure what u pay ... lets see,,, buy into an internet sportsbook... play the bonus...run it like 20X to get u credit....damn man....no bonus..bet straight up, 11-10 ( ME...no playing regulations)....ok... do it the hard way...

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    really.... for next day garanteed with no excuses payouts....ok whatever dude

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    would be great if somebody put were to try this method....than after they were PAID....could post a REAL review....surley, somebody has pennies to take the leap,,,,if so contact me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byronbb View Post
    lol 7% on winnings.......
    would be great if somebody put were to try this method....than after they were PAID....could post a REAL review....surley, somebody has pennies to take the leap,,,,if so contact me.

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    There has to be a language barrier.

    What are you trying to say here?

    Hi, I am American, I live in America, I bet from America at an offshore sportsbook which I access online, I cash out and have my money sent to me in - you guessed it - America.

    So, are you saying that it sucks to be a sports bettor in America? Nobody would argue that. Yet, I doubt that is what you are attempting to communicate.

    So, using your English words, try explaining WTF you are going on about.

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    I am just saying......bet as u want (no foul language) its just what I do...simple,,,,,so whatever makes oneselves happy they are free to do... for example.... if i am good with what I have..... why the insults..including from the founder..wow... just thought I would express myself but according to the founder of this siite....and given the fact tht he may looose out on his aff ID related banners.....guess I will be banned for pointing that out......but anyway , I was NOT loooking for insults from the founder of this board..how unprofessional without knowing the facts..I was only pointing out how I wager....who care how u wager.... I was just pointing out a FACT

    one would think that a smart person may try this and report to the forum before criticizing....nuff said

    jjgold this is directed to u ,,,,,, try me to see if true ...once u see..u will know
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    seriously......obviously u have not tried this way of wagers.......oh wait...talking shit without proof... lol...u seem to have tons of posts... why not try it out and see what happens...... if all goes well....u could always post a good review... just saying.always good to try something b4 shooting our potty mouth off..... btw dont give a crap how many posts u have.. cause u r wrong abt this....

    I am actually calling you out to try the service and write a review........... it makes more sense that to slam what u do not know........so if u agree... let me know, I will hook you up and u can report to your fellow board members.............. obviously without trying this out..... you can not make a conclusion.... just saying. I AM NOT steeering u wrong...take the small leap and see how happy u will be.....but... if u do not take the leap and talk crap about this service........ who should believe you..... i suggets trying this out and than reporting FROM EXPERIENCE....u are probably doing a good thig for your followers, I do understand that you may loose on your Affiliate ID banners on u site, but in the long run u can prob mke more $ betting and telling u players to bet with legitimte books......

    I used to work with Frankie Masterana..... so ya.. I KNOW the DR.
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    lol..espanol...perfecto! yo juego en la Reublica Dominicana...ya tu sabe.

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    english you slimey 7 points stealing prikk motherfukker!

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    So you're trying to be a bet broker is that what's going on here?

    I do not understand this

    Are you drinking guy

    You seem like a good guy know what country are you from

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    What I am saying is that I have a place to wager that does not invovle all the bonus,,,,,,, BS,,,,,,,, nor the U.S. BS...I get paid next day and never a problem..... like I said....LEGAL sports betting.... never have I said to follow what I do.... just my opinion.. so all haters...sorry bt u...all believers.... feell free to ask me how.....its sadson cannot share info without all the insults.

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    bibby show this fukkstik the gate please?!?!!?!??

    mods anyone?!!?

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    No.... not drinking at all.... just joined this site... maybe I am wasting my time as per all the attack,,,,,, way to access offshore betting and was trying to share it.....but seems that maybe am wasting time as per all the attacks when one is only trying to share.....sorry if caused grief here tonight.... but do not appreciate the insults when trying to help fellow bettors.

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    i am also big Tigers fan... live in windsor actually...go to many a game..thx for the insult ... see u at next home game asswipe..and ya asswipe even though u have 5k plus posts.

    btw...have Wings tix for next week..do u
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedWingFan68 View Post
    i am also big Tigers fan... live in windsor actually...go to many a game..thx for the insult ... see u at next home game asswipe
    i knew it all of the caulk gazers live there!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    english you slimey 7 points stealing prikk motherfukker!

    English is is...Are u normally a dumb ass.....JS

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    lol...u r a wanna be Tigers fan..me .. i am 10 mins from ballpark dumb ass

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    lmfao...

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    It seeems that a thread I started has made many jealous...this was not my intent, nor is it my fault or do I have any comtrol as to how you may place your bets offshore..get ripped off..complain abt payouts etc....as is EASILY researched here on this forum......I thought that maybe i could help some of you out by referring an HONEST book....however..continue to post your gripes and continue to post abt being ripped off etc.... I was only giving my experience on how I do my thing.. 7 years..no ripoffs,,,,, please refrain from any more insults as this thread was meant to help out fellow bettore, of course like any other forum, insults fly and seem to be the norm...I was however not impresssed with the founders comments..... very unprofessional without knowing the truth..... like I said earlier...$100 -$200- $300 whatever...small price to pay to lead your followers onto a Good thing.. of course..that would mean the end of affiliaton money...but would lead to probaly better relations.....

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