[BriGuy]

+1. I just don't understand the mentality of people who think this is a good thing. Is there anything - anything - the colossal bureaucracy which is the United States Federal Government does in an efficient, cost effective manner? Something which people look at and say "wow, the government is spending our money wisely". Anything at all??!?

Still waiting for someone to respond to this.

[Thor4140]

Like the Libs on SBR do...

Trouble is... NO ONE knows

Samma i remember a show where a woman Republican strategist kept getting pressed on what she didn't like about the AfCA. You know what her answer was? It is to big to read. When pressed she kept saying the same nonsense. I know Republicans don't like to read much but that is the only way u can find out what is in it instead of listening to Rush tell you what is not in it like it is in it.

[Brock Landers]

Would all the Canadians, Britts, Germans, and the rest step up and tell us how awful their socialize health care is please. I don't think i will get much of a response.

they pay for healthcare with higher taxes on EVERYTHING....Gas is throgh the roof, a fuckin case of beer in Canada is 48 bux, same case in the USA is 15 tops

[Thor4140]

Still waiting for someone to respond to this.

i just responded on why the Gov't doesn't work but here it is again. When u have despicable people on one side undermining everything just so their buddies can privatize it and make a profit and rape the public, the Gov't will be impossible to work. Take the postal service for instance. The cunning con job the Republicans pulled back in 06 is a prime example. Nothing wrong with the postal service until these shitbags undermined it

[Thor4140]

they pay for healthcare with higher taxes on EVERYTHING....Gas is throgh the roof, a fuckin case of beer in Canada is 48 bux, same case in the USA is 15 tops

yeah and i already reached my three thousand deductable and am about ten grand in on my shitty health care. So i rather have that money back and pay a little more for some gas and taxes. Brock where are all the Canadians who want our system instead of theirs?

[Sam Odom]

Come on Thor...

That was a no-answer reply , just rhetoric

No one person in the world knows ObamaCare well enough to say what it is with any certainty

[chilidog]

You people DO realize the USA is one of 2 countries in the world where health care is not, at least before this, guaranteed as a right?

what's the other one?

[Thor4140]

In the US, what a person pays in health care co-pays,deductibles, &premiums PLUS our taxes far exceeds the average Canadian's entire tax bill

[DoYouNotGetIT]

they pay for healthcare with higher taxes on EVERYTHING....Gas is throgh the roof, a fuckin case of beer in Canada is 48 bux, same case in the USA is 15 tops

Why do people believe gas prices are based on actual factual data instead of making the consumer the highest price possible without effecting demand? Canada is the largest supplier of oil to the US. Their whole economy is based off of oil. It would make no sense for them to charge $0.25 a liter to Canadians, because they want to sell it to the US for lots of money.

[Thor4140]

Canadian I had major open heart valve surgery in Vancouver. 10 day hospital stay in ICU and walked out w/ no bill. At 40, I wdve been broke!

We can go bankrupt with a terrible illness. Other countries ya can't. Wow what a great deal we have here. One that no other country wants to come near. If we have it so great why doesn't anyone want to try our system? Because we have some of the best con artist around who have mastered the art of conning nitwits.

[DoYouNotGetIT]

Come on Thor...

That was a no-answer reply , just rhetoric

No one person in the world knows ObamaCare well enough to say what it is with any certainty

Coming from a guy who quotes a British Prime Minister who supports socialized medicine in a debate where he is debating against Obamacare. What is next you are going to quote Albert Einstein when debating for intelligent design?

[ChalkyDog]

And the truth

Conceptually, I don't get it. I've thought about that quote for a long time and it fails to hit home any truth at all.

First, how does one run out of money? As in - where does it go? Money is like pussy, you can trade it and retrade it and retrade it somemore, but the only thing that changes its relative worth is inflation.

Second, I have a hard time conceptually seeing the differences of aggregate wealth in a select few of Socialist Russia - and, well now, in America. Semantics aside, it is truly hard to justify calling any system that results in that a success or a model to strive for.

Sammy, America fukked up Capitalism. Now is not the time to play partisan politics.

[DwightShrute]

they pay for healthcare with higher taxes on EVERYTHING....Gas is throgh the roof, a fuckin case of beer in Canada is 48 bux, same case in the USA is 15 tops

$48? I was just there for a month and it's $60 for a case of 24 in BC

[Brock Landers]

what's the other one?

my bad, i was thinking of the METRIC SYSTEM

[Sam Odom]

'Dog... If your thinking was accurate...

USA should raise Min Wage to 50.00 hr and all employees, full/part, should have 'free' medical , dental , mental & one month paid vacation per yr <---- This would solve most all problems

[chilidog]

LOL, look at all ya'll up in here. Bunch of grown-ass men acting like schoolgirls bickering back and forth. "No, I'm right!". "No, you're fukking crazy - I'm right!" Step back and look at the entire picture.

[Sam Odom]

chilidog... YOU ARE WRONG

[Thor4140]

W e subsidize oil co. w/ our tax$$ AND they get away w/ paying $0 in taxes! And we think we're paying only $3.50@ the pump.

[Thor4140]

LOL, look at all ya'll up in here. Bunch of grown-ass men acting like schoolgirls bickering back and forth. "No, I'm right!". "No, you're fukking crazy - I'm right!" Step back and look at the entire picture.

posters going back and forth on a postboard and this guy has a problem with it? Ya really can't make this shit up.

[ChalkyDog]

'Dog... If your thinking was accurate...

USA should raise Min Wage to 50.00 hr and all employees, full/part, should have 'free' medical , dental , mental & one month paid vacation per yr <---- This would solve most all problems

Why should they?

I am missing the correlation.

Are you talking Marxist Utopia or Practical Socialism. Are you talking 2 cars in every garage for everyone, or are you talking about a Applied Market principles?

In my opinion, I feel there is literally no reason to be able to talk about policy in America you need to know the basic tenents of Socialism. That is how bad the fringe right has hijacked this conversation right now.

Every debate on the issue of American economic health - that NEWSFLASH: requires government support, you have the knuckle-dragging asshats screaming SOCIALIST or other mind numbing rhetoric that is so far removed from reality - you miss the days of just having to deal with sociopaths.

Either believe America is great, and step the penetrate up and go all in on this nation that you believe in and wave their flag whenever possible, meaning both 50%'s of this country - or get off the fukkin' pot and end Statism as the archaic clusterfukk that it absolutely is and get down to the brass tax of fixing shit.

[Sam Odom]

...or get off the fukkin' pot and end Statism as the archaic clusterfukk that it absolutely is and get down to the brass tax of fixing shit.

Obama = statist or fascist (fascist in an economy sense)

[BriGuy]

i just responded on why the Gov't doesn't work but here it is again. When u have despicable people on one side undermining everything just so their buddies can privatize it and make a profit and rape the public, the Gov't will be impossible to work. Take the postal service for instance. The cunning con job the Republicans pulled back in 06 is a prime example. Nothing wrong with the postal service until these shitbags undermined it

OK thank you for demonstrating you don't have the first clue what you are talking about. If you think the USPS was fine and dandy until 2006, I suggest you get out of your cave every once in a while. So.... anyone else care to try?

[chilidog]

chilidog... YOU ARE WRONG

no, you're WRONG!

[chilidog]

posters going back and forth on a postboard and this guy has a problem with it? Ya really can't make this shit up.

hey man, however you gotta rationalize it to yourself - that's cool. if you want act like some chick arguing over chit, be my guest. just pointing out how fukking ridiculous ya'll sound.

[opie1988]

If nothing else, this thread has made me a big BriGuy fan!!

Well done, pal.

[Brock Landers]

If nothing else, this thread has made me a big BriGuy fan!!

Well done, pal.

it also exposes your senator as a pinko piece of shit hell bent on self congratulatory gleet

[rkelly110]

I really did wish "bama was defeated last year. Even though I agree with most of his policies, I knew this bickering
was going to last throughout his 2nd term.

Corporations hate everything about 'bama and his policies, because they know he will put a hurting on them.
Corps gave huge amounts to the Repub party for all of them to use. The Repubs are trying to stop everything
'bama proposes for the simple fact the corps are paying them to obstruct. It's not hard to figure out.

"bama is like our (peoples) union leader and corps hate it. I don't understand how you can't like having your
rights fought for you? Is it we the people or we the corporations?

[Sam Odom]

Corporations hate everything about 'bama and his policies...

You cannot really believe that...

[pavyracer]

Everyone says that USPS is a piece of crap but no one mails letters and bills with Fedex for $5 a piece.

[Thor4140]

OK thank you for demonstrating you don't have the first clue what you are talking about. If you think the USPS was fine and dandy until 2006, I suggest you get out of your cave every once in a while. So.... anyone else care to try?

u have no clue about the bill and stunt they pulled. The 3 billion they go in debt each quarter is because of that bill. U most likely knew nothing about this bill but post up something lame like u know something. Another blind puppet who thinks he knows something.

[mnpickle]

Obama has better hair then Bush... If Bush had Obama's hair... Greatest President ever

[Thor4140]

Everyone says that USPS is a piece of crap but no one mails letters and bills with Fedex for $5 a piece.

It be nice if the postal service would stop mailing for these rotten fuks and let them drive their own mail on their own. Postal service has never giving me a problem. I love being able to mail a letter and have it somewhere in the country in three or 4 days. Maybe we can privatize it and let stamps go up to 3.50.

[SportsPedagogy]

Sammy asked Brocker the same thing about all of those waivers/exemptions

Brocker said he had no idea and hadnt a clue about the details of ObamaCare BUT Brock said if Obama wants it it must be good

In terms of being exempt from any Federal Program, including Social Security or Medicare, the exemptions are granted because a group or organization guarantees that they will never draw from those programs and that they will provide an alternative program to their members.


For example, public employees in the state of Ohio, including teachers do nat pay into social security because they pay into an alternative retirement run by the state. It is called the Public Employees Retirment Fund

[Thor4140]

If nothing else, this thread has made me a big BriGuy fan!!

Well done, pal.

Stay out of it boy and just sit there and root that shit baseball team of urs to get one more wins so i can win my total bet. Thank goodness ur other shit team came to town so i at least have a chance after this colossal collapse

[Thor4140]

why are these same right wing phony's fighting so hard against healthcare for our citizens when these rotten fuks have socialize medicine? How in the world have they conned simpletons into believing the Gov't can't run healthcare when these pricks have government run healthcare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!