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    pats offense may struggle now espically with gronk still injured

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    Dam victim text while dying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post

    victim text saying Hernandez did it b4 he died
    AKA Dying declaration, and can be used in court.

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    aaron hernadez just another example of.. when keeping it real goes wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfaneReality View Post
    AKA Dying declaration, and can be used in court.
    Yeah I'm almost positive that's what he said

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    It's all circumstantial evidence.

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    Well, it's a slam dunk, he killed the guy. Just hope this won't be another OJ situation where he goes scot free. Could go either way.

    How did my Pats go from the best TE tandem in the league to nobody? And no Wes. :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    It's all circumstantial evidence.
    No it isnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    It's all circumstantial evidence.

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    Come on judge lock him up til trial with no bail

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    No it isnt
    Really, which part isn't?

    Dying Declaration is hearsay. Admittable hearsay, but hearsay nonetheless.

    What other evidence do they have that they have presented and isn't circumstantial.

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    sounds like his buddies have turned on him, doesn't matter much what the quality of evidence is. He is connected, apparently seen on video with the gun and, odds are the two others guy already flipped on him. He's done.

    Now, i dont know if they flipped on him or not ,just heard something about the other 2 guys are "cooperating" with authorities on the radio while i was driving home. That usually means one thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Dam victim text while dying...
    what did the text say ?

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    They have tons of.evidence....he's toast...even the victim texted a relative saying remember who picked me up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    Really, which part isn't?

    Dying Declaration is hearsay. Admittable hearsay, but hearsay nonetheless.

    What other evidence do they have that they have presented and isn't circumstantial.
    Dying declaration is hearsay when a time stamp of a text message isn't available. It's easy to determine time of death as well as when the text message was sent/received.

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    Innocent until proven guilty

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    They don't even have to tell everything but most was circumstantial but with that amount he's finished and not even close. Guess we will all see

    No bail gonna happen either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Dying declaration is hearsay when a time stamp of a text message isn't available. It's easy to determine time of death as well as when the text message was sent/received.
    Bingo

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    They don't have to say all evidence in this hearing. So circumstantial is all they need today and they have more than enough of that

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    Literally only actual/direct/non-circumstantial evidence is witness accounts of Hernandez being seen with the vicitm prior to the presumptive time of the incident.

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    wait, but he got shot in the back of his head execution style, how does he text

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    They don't have to say all evidence in this hearing. So circumstantial is all they need today and they have more than enough of that
    True, but everything presented, or everything I heard presented is circumstantial. Albeit, it was a terrible recording, and I only heard it once.

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    This will be entertaining lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    wait, but he got shot in the back of his head execution style, how does he text
    I didn't hear that, heard a lot of body shots, and others winging him, etc. But, the recording ESPN was presenting was pretty crap and I missed a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    True, but everything presented, or everything I heard presented is circumstantial. Albeit, it was a terrible recording, and I only heard it once.
    Ur right.

    They. Will search high and low for that murder weapon

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    it must have been tom brady

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    Did he text his name or just NFL?

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    He might have had a clue what was going on too. Thinkin he might be on his way to die

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Potato View Post
    Did he text his name or just NFL?
    Both I'm pretty sure. Nfl and Hernandez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Dying declaration is hearsay when a time stamp of a text message isn't available. It's easy to determine time of death as well as when the text message was sent/received.
    Dying Declaration is always hearsay. It's under the rules of hearsay.

    It literally has to be hearsay. Because, the dude is dead - so he can't exactly testify.

    Dying declaration is fantastic evidence for the state, for sure.

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    That video and audio from the court was just terrible. Didn't know shit that bad was still used

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    They said he executed him how do u text wen being executed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Potato View Post
    They said he executed him how do u text wen being executed?
    maybe he texted on the car ride...

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    what was the motive? drugs?

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