Yeah, that's kind of how it always has been. Sad, but true. If Brock or Deemer or anyone bringing heat on themselves or boasting a huge play or lock, etc. make a thread, you can always tell by the # of replies if the bet won or lost. It's stupid shit like that that kills the forum. I'm prob guilty of it from time to time, but it's usually in jest. I have fun with the forum and everyone should know that. People like Nasher, LKid1, or goatmilk will put the time and effort in to making a good write up, with sound logic and the bet will lose and you have 400 jerk offs hammering them. It kills the motivation to put the time in and do it again and in turn, kills the forum.