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    Quote Originally Posted by bruins35 View Post
    jays are the most complete team from starting pitching to power speed and pen.They are the favs by vegas for a reason just like det was last year
    Yeah and Det lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Yeah and Det lost
    they made it to the world seris not bad in my books

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    Stop it.. the tigers and angels are the class of the league

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    Dickey will get hit... Best rotation is Nationals...

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    big bear u said burhle is better than morrow u said and then u state that morrow can win the cy young question is can burhle win cy young and there is your answer, it seems like u have a brain when it comes to baseball more like huggie bear or yogi bear ur a disgrace to not even see that u contradicted ur own opinon nothing but a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Dickey will get hit... Best rotation is Nationals...
    i really dont get this whole "Dickey will get rocked in the AL"



    WTF is the difference between an AL hitter compared to NL hitter that is capable of making them hit an 80 MPH knuckle ball that the PITCHER throwing it doesn't even know where it is going to end up going.

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    tampa has the best rotation..cant even argue it

    sf very good, oakland very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbawks View Post
    tampa has the best rotation..cant even argue it

    sf very good, oakland very good
    Not after Tampa dumped James shields to the royals.

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    Jays starting 5 will be the most redicolously paid staff and will not be good. Dickey is like 63 years old and will get rocked next year. Romero was a launching pad this year. Buehrle turns 71 years old this year.

    Give me the nationals, reds and giants staff.

    I like my reds:

    Cueto
    Latos
    Chapman
    Bailey
    Arroyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsguy04 View Post
    Jays starting 5 will be the most redicolously paid staff and will not be good. Dickey is like 63 years old and will get rocked next year. Romero was a launching pad this year. Buehrle turns 71 years old this year.

    Give me the nationals, reds and giants staff.

    I like my reds:

    Cueto
    Latos
    Chapman
    Bailey
    Arroyo
    moving Chapman to the rotation is a horrible move. it never works out well ever. see kid from Red Sox, Neftali Feliz, i'm drawing blanks right now but i know the list goes on and on and on and on with multiple failures.

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    like CJ wilson? Chris Sale?

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    Its a great rotation no doubt, but in the end you have to perform on the field and stay healthy. Many pitchers will improve just as many will regress and many will be injured. Who the f**k knows who will be the best in the end. That's why they play the games and why sport is the best unscripted drama there is. Common I can't wait for spring training!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoo youk View Post
    moving Chapman to the rotation is a horrible move. it never works out well ever. see kid from Red Sox, Neftali Feliz, i'm drawing blanks right now but i know the list goes on and on and on and on with multiple failures.
    Agreed. I rather see chapman pitch the 8th and 9th innings as a closer but no need for a set up man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gryfyn1 View Post
    like CJ wilson? Chris Sale?
    those are probably the only two exceptions over the past 5-10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    R.A. Dickey
    Josh Johnson
    Mark Buehrle
    Brandon Morrow
    Ricky Romero



    Your Toronto blue jays
    Get real Johnson coming off a bad year
    Romero may be shot for good
    Buehrle may be at the end of his rope
    What the fuk do you even look at????

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    you guys are forgeting if remero sucks and cant get his form back the jays can take villanuva from the pen and make hima starter,he was the best pitcher on jays last year wity morrow and happ wasnt bad either

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbawks View Post
    tampa has the best rotation..cant even argue it

    sf very good, oakland very good
    How the hell can u ppl even consider any team having a better rotation over the Nats..?
    You guys are crazy, Jays are def in the top 5 tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruins35 View Post
    you guys are forgeting if remero sucks and cant get his form back the jays can take villanuva from the pen and make hima starter,he was the best pitcher on jays last year wity morrow and happ wasnt bad either
    Villanueva is a free agent and is very solid but he is close to signing with the cubs.

    Happ would be a pretty good #5 but I think Romero bounces back.

    Ricky was terrible but he's still young and has had 3 good years and 1 terrible season.

    I expect ricky to win 13-15 games with ERA around 4.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffie View Post
    How the hell can u ppl even consider any team having a better rotation over the Nats..?
    You guys are crazy, Jays are def in the top 5 tho.
    I was obviously being a major homer Jeff.

    Jays might have best rotation in AL though.

    Of course they need to stay healthy and need Romero to bounce back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    I was obviously being a major homer Jeff.

    Jays might have best rotation in AL though.

    Of course they need to stay healthy and need Romero to bounce back.
    No i know, wish angels were able to keep Grienke i'd be blabbering about how angels have the best starting 5.

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    Phillies

    Halladay
    Lee
    Hamels
    Kendrick
    Lannan

    Anytime Cole Hamels is only your 3rd starter, you must be doing something right.

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    I think Detroit's starting 5 blows the Blue Jays 5 out of the water.

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    Now if only the Rogers Centre was a pitcher's park...these poor pitchers are going to get blown to bits next year...mark my words!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Wont even make the playoffs.
    Stopped reading after this post. This one says it all concisely and is all that matters. Jays trying to become relevant again but just won't happen with the behemoths in the AL east

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    I'd take Kris Medlen over any starting 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    Jays 8/1 to win 2013 word series.

    Money talks bullshit walks
    Worked well for the Yankees, huh?

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    Cain
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    Lincecum
    Cueto

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    R.A. Dickey
    Josh Johnson
    Mark Buehrle
    Brandon Morrow
    Ricky Romero

    Your Toronto blue jays
    I'll take this starting five over your starting five.

    Medlen - 10 and 1 1.57 ERA
    Tim Hudson
    Brandon Beachy - stuff is electric

    Minor and Maholm > Romero and Morrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantle7 View Post
    I think Detroit's starting 5 blows the Blue Jays 5 out of the water.
    I agree top to bottom there better only spot Jays could make argument is Romero vs Porcello but Porcello was a lot better than Romero last year. When's last time Jays made playoffs? Can't just buy a championship team in a year. Going to take some time

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruins35 View Post
    jays are the most complete team from starting pitching to power speed and pen.They are the favs by vegas for a reason just like det was last year
    Toronto's bullpen is a complete cluster fukk, pal.

    Quote Originally Posted by zoo youk View Post
    i really dont get this whole "Dickey will get rocked in the AL"



    WTF is the difference between an AL hitter compared to NL hitter that is capable of making them hit an 80 MPH knuckle ball that the PITCHER throwing it doesn't even know where it is going to end up going.
    You don't understand the difference between the lineups in the AL East (where a majority of games are played) and the NL? Are you being serious?

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    Okay not the best in majors but best in American League. Jays are best team in baseball though.

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    Romero was the BEST fade in baseball for a majority of last season

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I'll take this starting five over your starting five.

    Medlen - 10 and 1 1.57 ERA
    Tim Hudson
    Brandon Beachy - stuff is electric

    Minor and Maholm > Romero and Morrow
    Medlin shit the bed vs st Louis something fearse in the playoffs

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    Dam noone has mentioned the great Dodgers team. 1. Kershaw, 2. Grienke, 3. Billingsley, 4. Beckett, 5. Ryu add maybe Capuano instead of one of them. Next I would go with the Nationals with the combo of the great Stasburg and Gio, and 3rd the phillies if those big 3 finally step it up and earn that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    R.A. Dickey
    Josh Johnson
    Mark Buehrle
    Brandon Morrow
    Ricky Romero

    Your Toronto blue jays
    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler View Post
    thats a joke to say....
    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler View Post
    You embarrased yourself sayin that...
    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler View Post
    Morrow is the best of the bunch... Romero and johnson velocity down and regressed last year..... buehrle and dickey will get shelled in a.l.
    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler View Post
    Strasburg, gonzalez, zimmerman, haren, and detweiler... thats WAYYYY BETTER than jay staff...
    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Wont even make the playoffs.
    Quote Originally Posted by WvGambler View Post
    Strasburg, Haren, Gonzalez and Zimmerman would all be the #1 or #2 guy in Toronto. There's an argument to be had that all 4 would be the ace there.
    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler View Post
    Dude, you are delusional if you think the jays even compare to the tigers or angels....
    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Still not as good as the Braves starting 5.
    Quote Originally Posted by gryfyn1 View Post

    Not even the Best in the AL East
    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    Ricky Romero was horse shit last year. The good thing now is he's the #5 starter and will be pitching worth his slot.
    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Nationals, phillies and giants have better pitching.

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