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    Blackjack Strategy: Learning From Don Johnson


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    Blackjack is easy to master. I won 10K at that same tropicana a few years back.

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    interesting read; a lot of that you learn as you play consistently, I use some of those strats except doubling (I only double 11's and rarely split) i need to hit up another casino soon

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    So he played at tables with good rules and played basic strategy. And bet large. That's the long and the short of it?
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    The main thing I learned is to never go away from your strategy. Even when it is not working. Never switch. Always split the eights and always double on 11. Also. Must get aggressive when the dealer is showing either 3,4,5,6. For instance. Let's say dealer is showing a 6, and I have 4-4. I would split the two 4's to make 2 hands. Dealer 6 is the highest pecentage chance for him to bust. Advantage me. Always try to make 2 hands in this case. Same withe dealer 4,5,6. This is the key to winning in black jack. You have many options with dealer showing 4,5,6.

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    For the seasoned black-jacker's:

    When playing at a casino for example (not online, in person), do you try to sit at a table with only you and the dealer? Are you hindered by more people playing at the same table as you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    So he played at tables with good rules and played basic strategy. And bet large. That's the long and the short of it?
    And he had a 20% discount on loses apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul786 View Post
    For the seasoned black-jacker's:

    When playing at a casino for example (not online, in person), do you try to sit at a table with only you and the dealer? Are you hindered by more people playing at the same table as you?
    I like to play just me and the dealer. But when I wom my 10k I was forced to sit with one other person. Its ok as long as that person or people know how to play. If they are doing dumb shit, like staying on 16, they will wreck you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttrace35 View Post
    The main thing I learned is to never go away from your strategy. Even when it is not working. Never switch. Always split the eights and always double on 11. Also. Must get aggressive when the dealer is showing either 3,4,5,6. For instance. Let's say dealer is showing a 6, and I have 4-4. I would split the two 4's to make 2 hands. Dealer 6 is the highest pecentage chance for him to bust. Advantage me. Always try to make 2 hands in this case. Same withe dealer 4,5,6. This is the key to winning in black jack. You have many options with dealer showing 4,5,6.
    No, you never split 4s or 5s. This is blackjack basic strategy 101.

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    playing with a 'good' player at the table or 'bad' player make no difference in the long run - muchless who is playing 3rd base

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    Quote Originally Posted by hels View Post
    No, you never split 4s or 5s. This is blackjack basic strategy 101.
    I dunno about that. Maybe double down? That at least. I would have to look that up. Maybe the play is to double down in that situation. Obviously with 2 10,s you would double down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    playing with a 'good' player at the table or 'bad' player make no difference in the long run - muchless who is playing 3rd base
    That's bullshit. If you are doing dumb shit at a blackjack table, people won't play with you. Its for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post

    playing with a 'good' player at the table or 'bad' player make no difference in the long run - muchless who is playing 3rd base

    Quote Originally Posted by ttrace35 View Post

    That's bullshit.




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    Quote Originally Posted by hels View Post
    No, you never split 4s or 5s. This is blackjack basic strategy 101.
    Go back and check your basic strategy black jack chart again. I was correct. You split 4's against a dealer 6. I does this son. Should know your facts before going around correcting people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttrace35 View Post

    Should know your facts before going around correcting people.

    considering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    considering...
    I never heard of you son. Get lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttrace35 View Post
    Go back and check your basic strategy black jack chart again. I was correct. You split 4's against a dealer 6. I does this son. Should know your facts before going around correcting people.


    There is many times you deviate from basic strategy and split 3's 4's 5's 6's even against 7 all depends on true count at the time

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    Trigger with some good info here

    Black Jack is so addicting

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    There is many times you deviate from basic strategy and split 3's 4's 5's 6's even against 7 all depends on true count at the time
    This is why people lose. Why would ever splt 3,4,5,6 against a dealer 7. Doesn't make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    playing with a 'good' player at the table or 'bad' player make no difference in the long run - muchless who is playing 3rd base
    This is the truth. You may get screwed every now and then by a bad player but they will also help you every now and then. Playing consistently and proper money management are the 2 keys to winning long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    This is the truth. You may get screwed every now and then by a bad player but they will also help you every now and then. Playing consistently and proper money management are the 2 keys to winning long term.
    I disagree. Picture being in the pit, 100 a hand. Then some hamburger is in there and can't make his mind up. Sometimes he hits on 16. Sometimes he doesn't. Will drive you fukkin nuts and you will run from the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttrace35 View Post

    I disagree.

    That is your prerogative... but mathematically/statistically you are WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    That is your prerogative... but mathematically/statistically you are WRONG
    You're right, but human nature and enjoyment is part of the game. When you've got people doing all sorts of wacky shit, it's so difficult to get over when a wacky play costs you a big hand. It just effects your enjoyment if nothing else. Best to avoid when possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    You're right, but human nature and enjoyment is part of the game. When you've got people doing all sorts of wacky shit, it's so difficult to get over when a wacky play costs you a big hand. It just effects your enjoyment if nothing else. Best to avoid when possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttrace35 View Post

    Thissssss

    - he is agreeing with my post #10 which you called bullshit

    Smokers at my table bothers me more than a poor (non basic strategy) player -- so I get up and leave most of the time

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    Unless you're counting cards you shouldn't even bother looking at other players' hands. Focus on your game and your strategy to make the most profit.

    Hitting or not on 16 doesn't really matter (unless you count). If I've been dealt 2,3,4,2,5 = 16 I would probably stand -- I count cards though and obviously will make a decision based on the count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hels View Post
    Unless you're counting cards you shouldn't even bother looking at other players' hands. Focus on your game and your strategy to make the most profit.

    Hitting or not on 16 doesn't really matter (unless you count). If I've been dealt 2,3,4,2,5 = 16 I would probably stand -- I count cards though and obviously will make a decision based on the count.
    Just important for them to be consistant. Also can't stand people jumping in and out of shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    - he is agreeing with my post #10 which you called bullshit

    Smokers at my table bothers me more than a poor (non basic strategy) player -- so I get up and leave most of the time
    Was agreeing with the part that it is best to avoid these bad players. Go find somebody else to e-argue with Sam. Maybe can find Mayan to fight with.

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    not arguing with you... tt

    just trying to educate you a bit... God Bless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    not arguing with you... tt

    just trying to educate you a bit... God Bless

    BTW- you should NOT play anywhere/table where you 'feel' uncomfortable
    Technically it may have no difference. But it feels like it does. Its like playing roulette. When you walk to a table and look up at the board, your not gonna put a stack of money on the last number played. Would be dumb wouldn't it. Even though, mathematically, that is a dummy board because one spin has absolutely nothing to do with the next spin

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    Ttrace dont argue with sammy, he forgets to take his red pill and all hell breaks loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Ttrace dont argue with sammy, he forgets to take his red pill and all hell breaks loose.
    Now I know

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    somebody else at the table doesnt affect YOUR odds of winning. People just remember when the idiots cost you a hand, but never when they help you win

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttrace35 View Post
    I disagree. Picture being in the pit, 100 a hand. Then some hamburger is in there and can't make his mind up. Sometimes he hits on 16. Sometimes he doesn't. Will drive you fukkin nuts and you will run from the table.
    Trace, I make a living in the gaming industry and your whole theory is based off emotion, not raw data. In the long run it all evens out.
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    I remember lots of times when the idiot at the table took the bust card and I lost. Just as many times the idiot at the end shouldn't have hit, took a little one and the dealer busted. Makes no difference either way.

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