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    Home Run Futures 2012 Who has value?

    Amazing. No true favorite. Give me a few longshots. Early I like Granderson, C Gonzalez, M Kemp, Dan Uggla, and A Pujols.



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    Adam Dunn

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    Adam Jones

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    Adam Lind

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    Adrian Beltre

    +6000




    Adrian Gonzalez

    +1200




    Albert Pujols

    +1000




    Alex Rodriguez

    +2500




    Andre Ethier

    +10000




    Aramis Ramirez

    +15000




    Carlos Gonzalez

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    Carlos Quentin

    +10000




    Corey Hart

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    Curtis Granderson

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    Dan Uggla

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    David Freese

    +15000




    David Ortiz

    +8000




    David Wright

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    Eric Hosmer

    +5000




    Evan Longoria

    +3000




    Field (Any Other Player)

    +1000




    Hanley Ramirez

    +10000




    Hunter Pence

    +10000




    Ian Kinsler

    +6000




    Jacoby Ellsbury

    +6000




    Jason Heyward

    +4000




    Jay Bruce

    +2000




    Joey Votto

    +3000




    Jose Bautista

    +800




    Josh Hamilton

    +3000




    Justin Upton

    +2500




    Kevin Youkilis

    +15000




    Lance Berkman

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    Logan Morrison

    +10000




    Mark Reynolds

    +3000




    Mark Teixeira

    +1000




    Mark Trumbo

    +8000




    Matt Holliday

    +8000




    Matt Kemp

    +2000




    Miguel Cabrera

    +1200




    Mike Morse

    +6000




    Mike Napoli

    +6000




    Mike Stanton

    +800




    Nelson Cruz

    +3000




    Paul Konerko

    +8000




    Prince Fielder

    +1200




    Robinson Cano

    +6000




    Ryan Braun

    +4000




    Ryan Howard

    +10000




    Ryan Zimmerman

    +4000




    Troy Tulowitzki

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    Field +1000 - Alfonso Soriano, Michael Morse, JJ Hardy, Josh Willingham, Carlos Pena, etc etc. etc. You never know if some unknown young guy could jump onto the scene.

    I mean, was Jose Bautista even listed in 2010?
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    outside of the the obvious choice of Bautista (who has hit 18 more HRs than anyone else over the last two year)

    Reynolds may be worth it at +3000

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    No value here whats so ever,just by the fact that you have to tie up your money till next October,value would only be
    if you were gauranteed some sort of a return in that 8 month span.


    Where is the value when any of the guys you invest in can get hit by one pitch during a long season, fuccking up your investment.


    You wanna good future to bet with value, here it is.

    China to win more gold medals then any other country in the summer Olympics.
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    What Al said. No value at all anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Field +1000 - Alfonso Soriano, Michael Morse, JJ Hardy, Josh Willingham, Carlos Pena, etc etc. etc. You never know if some unknown young guy could jump onto the scene.

    I mean, was Jose Bautista even listed in 2010?
    I don't think he was listed in 2010, last year he was +800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    No value here whats so ever,just by the fact that you have to tie up your money till next October,value would only be
    if you were gauranteed some sort of a return in that 8 month span.


    Where is the value when any of the guys you invest in can get hit by one pitch during a long season, fuccking up your investment.


    You wanna good future to bet with value, here it is.

    China to win more gold medals then any other country in the summer Olympics.
    Somebody is going to lead the league in homers, its just a matter of being on the right side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Somebody is going to lead the league in homers, its just a matter of being on the right side.
    Utter nonsense. I guess you'd say the same thing if every player was listed at even odds? Somebody's going to win, right, just pick the right one?

    It's all about value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post

    Somebody is going to lead the league in homers, its just a matter of being on the right side.
    Prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post

    Utter nonsense. I guess you'd say the same thing if every player was listed at even odds? Somebody's going to win, right, just pick the right one?

    It's all about value.
    My response was to Masters. Look at the opening post and title. I said value, where are you coming from with every player listed at even odds? Never mind. Stay out of the thread if you can't see the response to a response.

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    I can't prove it. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXhoosier10 View Post

    Prove it.


    I can't prove it. Sorry, but it is impossible to prove it.

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    Prince Fielder

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    My response was to Masters. Look at the opening post and title. I said value, where are you coming from with every player listed at even odds? Never mind. Stay out of the thread if you can't see the response to a response.
    Al said there is no pick that has value and your reply was that someone's going to win, just pick the right side. That's where I'm coming from.
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    mike stanton 8-1 not great but will be fun to watch all year

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    Morse 60-1
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    I would think Braun at 40-1 holds some value considering todays news and he might be looking to prove something...

    Ill throw it a bone$

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Al said there is no pick that has value and your reply was that someone's going to win, just pick the right side. That's where I'm coming from.
    If you don't think any of the players have any value, exit stage left. Simple.

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    Field, Dunn, Stanton

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    fielder probably has the worst odds. he will not hit as many HR in the new park. he will probably be in the mid to low 30s range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antifoil View Post
    fielder probably has the worst odds. he will not hit as many HR in the new park. he will probably be in the mid to low 30s range.
    I dont like fielder one bit. Leyland might be a wise ass and bat him 3rd in the lineup.

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    Miguel Cabrera +1200, he will be forced to pitched to. Which will give a lot more opportunities then before because he got prince protecting him.

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    Miggy is in terrible shape. He may miss 20 games from suspensions and just being out of shape playing third base.

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    Matt Kemp is going to have a monster season---mark this post
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    i just looked at some projections that had mark reynolds within 2 or 3 of the hr leader. he could be good value.

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    You want value

    Well Jose Bautista won last year with 43 and he's 8/1
    Curtis Granderson finished in 2nd place last year with 39 and is listed at 30/1 I'd say that's great value

    Teammate Texiera had a down year and finished tied for 3rd with 39 and he's at 10/1
    Matt Kemp tied for 3rd and he's 20/1

    You want a longer shot?
    Jay Bruce is 25 years old and has been in the bigs 4 years. He's increased his HR total every single year. He's 20/1
    Compare that to Mike Stanton who is listed at 8/1. Stanton only hit 2 more hr than Bruce last year and is 2 years younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Somebody is going to lead the league in homers, its just a matter of being on the right side.

    You asked a question about value,i gave you an answer,and now your mad.

    Then you come back with this fucckin retarded comment.... someones got to lead the league just end up on the right side,where the fucck is there any value in that ignorant comment.


    Your fuckkingg thread should of read.

    Who should i take a shot on to lead the league in homers.
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    Napoli

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    HUGH fan of Stanton but +800 is not good value in the new ballpark

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    If you don't think any of the players have any value, exit stage left. Simple.
    First off pay attention.

    He never said there was no value, i did! he said there was value with the field.

    Why the **** would he or me have to exit stage left cause we tried to tell you there was no value,we didn't say we want to kill you or hurt you, we just responded to your thread,where you asked about value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNew View Post
    I would think Braun at 40-1 holds some value considering todays news and he might be looking to prove something...

    Ill throw it a bone$
    For value I think this is where it's at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post

    China to win more gold medals then any other country in the summer Olympics.
    Winning ping pong counts the exact same as the American NBA All stars winning basketball.

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    Boys, I've never seen Al Masters this pissed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoralizdDreamr View Post
    Miguel Cabrera +1200, he will be forced to pitched to. Which will give a lot more opportunities then before because he got prince protecting him.
    Miggy is the best hitter in the AL bad shape or not. The thing is he has a bad ball park and plays in bad weather games. How many of those HRs will turn into doubles? Miggy is too smart to always swing for the fences and have a big HR total and low average, he's a great all around hitter.

    Texiera isn't nearly as good as a hitter but he plays in a ball park custom designed for left handed power hitters and he has so much protection in that lineup. He had a bad year last year and finished 3rd, what happens if he has an average year hitting wise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    No value here whats so ever,just by the fact that you have to tie up your money till next October,value would only be
    if you were gauranteed some sort of a return in that 8 month span.


    Where is the value when any of the guys you invest in can get hit by one pitch during a long season, fuccking up your investment.


    You wanna good future to bet with value, here it is.

    China to win more gold medals then any other country in the summer Olympics.
    And then we still have to worry (with some books) that the book is still around and pays.

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