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    jjgold
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    Whats Insane At Betfair

    2:00 AM UK Time one tennis match left..maybe like the 200th ranked players in 1st round of a small tourney get more betting volume than Pinnacle does all week on all sports

    Is just out of control

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    what's the match? and the volume?

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    No idea..............this was last night and last match going

    I am not home Son

    Today they will get plenty of action but much more matches so will be spread out more

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    O Rochus v Kohlschreiber


    ..playing now..my uk contact alerted me
    Matched: USD 2,039,859

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    90% of that money is traded, only about 10% is punters money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruifgalmeida View Post
    90% of that money is traded, only about 10% is punters money
    What do you mean?

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    only 10% are real bets, the rest of the money is money that goes back and foward

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    What do you mean?
    It means that the total exposure is a fraction of the matched amount.

    If I back and lay the same player at odds of 2.00 for GBP 10,000.
    My exposure is zero and BetFair would show this as GBP 40,000 matched.

    In all likelihood another trader is on the other side of most of those transactions.

    Across all Betfair markets the amount actually risked is around 20% of the amount matched but that figure is lower of in-play/live markets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post
    It means that the total exposure is a fraction of the matched amount.

    If I back and lay the same player at odds of 2.00 for GBP 10,000.
    My exposure is zero and BetFair would show this as GBP 40,000 matched.

    In all likelihood another trader is on the other side of most of those transactions.

    Across all Betfair markets the amount actually risked is around 20% of the amount matched but that figure is lower of in-play/live markets.

    Ok................well it equates to unreal low juice and liquidity on all sports which is what we need

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Ok................well it equates to unreal low juice and liquidity on all sports which is what we need
    Agreed. During the Men's Aussie Open final, GBP 46m was traded in-play and the market traded at 100.5% or less overround (-101 equivalent) the whole time. As a player/bettor you can't really ask for better than that.
    Last edited by FourLengthsClear; 01-31-12 at 08:28 AM.

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    4 lengths lets go partners
    50k each and you make all decisions

    I just want reports daily at end of business day

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    4 lengths lets go partners
    50k each and you make all decisions

    I just want reports daily at end of business day
    I only have one investor/hedge fund partner JJ, that's my dad and he is in for a bit more than 50k. When he came on board, the stress of gambling/trading money that wasn't my own wasn't pleasant. Not a lot of upside to your 'proposal' for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    4 lengths lets go partners
    50k each and you make all decisions

    I just want reports daily at end of business day


    I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

    WTF kind of deal is that pal?

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    Ok

    Thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post


    I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

    WTF kind of deal is that pal?

    Someone must have beat you to it, Shari.
    JJ's crooked teeth look like they have done plenty of cement chewing......

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post


    I'd pay him 51k just to take your money and then tell you to chew cement.

    WTF kind of deal is that pal?

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    Sbobet for all your tennis needs.

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    The 60 million traded on the Aussie Open Men's final match winner market is pretty impressive.

    The Aussie side of Betfair have yet to turn a profit yet though.

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    Dont know whats so funny with a $50k split???

    Huh??

    4Lenghts I can do a fast transfer uk to uk bank 3 hrs tops to clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post
    Sbobet for all your tennis needs.
    I have all these books up when looking at lines and this book almost always has some of the best soccer lines, asian handicaps,etc. In soccer at least, in baseball and tennis I havent seen very good lines being offered, maybe I have to pay more attention. When you read the trades, this book seems to always be talked of highly. I would give anything to play at some of these Asian books.

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    SBOBET is only for for soccer

    The rest of the sports are juiced up lines like a UK Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Dont know whats so funny with a $50k split???

    Huh??

    4Lenghts I can do a fast transfer uk to uk bank 3 hrs tops to clear
    Most domestic banks are part of the FPS which means that bank to bank transfers should take 2 hours max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregm View Post
    I have all these books up when looking at lines and this book almost always has some of the best soccer lines, asian handicaps,etc. In soccer at least, in baseball and tennis I havent seen very good lines being offered, maybe I have to pay more attention. When you read the trades, this book seems to always be talked of highly. I would give anything to play at some of these Asian books.
    SBO is primarily a soccer book.

    Whereas you can get top odds on other sports at times the limits are very much lower than for soccer.

    Typically for tennis they limit to $741, sometimes only half that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    SBO is primarily a soccer book.

    Whereas you can get top odds on other sports at times the limits are very much lower than for soccer.

    Typically for tennis they limit to $741, sometimes only half that
    Thanks Hareeba. I definitely am impressed with their lines for soccer. Licensed out of the Isle of man is probably for the good as well, I have seen them on west ham shirts before and been reading about them, I have yet to see much negative press on them.

    Seems like alot of money behind this book, surprised to not see them rated on here with betfair and william hill and alot of these other books.

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    SBOBET one of safest books in the world, its a must have for soccer..same as Pinny but i think higher limits

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    SBOBET one of safest books in the world, its a must have for soccer..same as Pinny but i think higher limits

    SBobet gets all of my soccer action.

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    Better prices for almost all football (soccer as you call it) games on betfair when compared to SBO or any other asain. 9/10 of all my football bets go through bf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennisProFrance View Post
    Better prices for almost all football (soccer as you call it) games on betfair when compared to SBO or any other asain. 9/10 of all my football bets go through bf.
    Bit surprised at that TPF

    Do you bet AH or only 1X2?

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    must be on 1% commission

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Suckerman View Post
    must be on 1% commission
    I thought the lowest rate at BF is 2%?

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    I do not think though On a lot of leagues you can get down 5k on Asian handicaps at Betfair as volume lacks compared to SBOBET where you can get down that every time in many of top league Asian handicaps.

    Betfair is mainly a match Odds operation

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    Insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I do not think though On a lot of leagues you can get down 5k on Asian handicaps at Betfair as volume lacks compared to SBOBET where you can get down that every time in many of top league Asian handicaps. Betfair is mainly a match Odds operation

    you wouldnt even know, you would not even know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    I thought the lowest rate at BF is 2%?
    It is and I am not even close to that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygun View Post
    you wouldnt even know, you would not even know
    Yeh I would..worst thing you can do is underestimate someone..its one of reasons I school everyone on forums

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