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    Anthem is being graded as under

    Bovada said that the little something extra that Lady Gaga put on the end doesn't count.

    Other sportsbooks are agreeing and going with the under.

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    5Dimes graded me as a loss. are they going to revert?

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    Pinnacle graded as OVER.

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    That's stupid, how would that not count? No wager but id be pissed here if I had over

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    Video?

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    because she stopped for a second or too and then for some reason kept going

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    because she stopped for a second or too and then for some reason kept going
    Bodog is a shit book.

    5Dimes, Pinnacle, Youwager all graded it as OVER.

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    Some books specify that the anthem ends officially after the first "brave".

    Been like that since I can remember.

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    Thread is literally worthless without video.

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    On youwager i read the rules prior, it said once her final note ends than that is when the clock stops. so i would think if she stopped than did a new note at ehdn that new note wouldn't count

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald View Post
    Pinnacle graded as OVER.
    And rightfully so

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    I always wandered how books grade these bets. Now I know their shady practices.

    Wtf does it mean the last part doesn't count? Who decides when is over? The book or the singer?

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    this is bs , the song ..it aint over til its over.. when singer stops

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    I think she had to time the Brave with the fly over

    but she ended a bit early so she just started a new "brave" as the planes approached


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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald View Post
    Bodog is a shit book.

    5Dimes, Pinnacle, Youwager all graded it as OVER.

    Heritage and BOL graded it over as well.

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    I got ******.

    I had under 140.

    5dimes has decided to grade as OVER.

    5 dimes would have graded it whatever would have won them more money.

    After today, after having been a loyal 5dimes patron, I will never bet on 5dimes again. This is the fourth time they have played this crap.

    penetrate 5dimes.

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    yeah props like this are subject to the books liking. good luke getting tony to reverse close calls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    I think she had to time the Brave with the fly over

    but she ended a bit early so she just started a new "brave" as the planes approached

    Started at 0:19, ended at 2:49. That's 150 seconds. What's the controversy? The song ain't cover until it's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollars2Donuts View Post
    I got ******.

    I had under 140.

    5dimes has decided to grade as OVER.

    5 dimes would have graded it whatever would have won them more money.

    After today, after having been a loyal 5dimes patron, I will never bet on 5dimes again. This is the fourth time they have played this crap.

    penetrate 5dimes.
    Dude, are you kidding? It was over that by 10 seconds. Get a grip. Can you imagine if you had over and they graded a loss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Started at 0:19, ended at 2:49. That's 150 seconds. What's the controversy? The song ain't cover until it's over.
    not 150 secs because it is from the start of the first SINGING note


    you can see it both ways. she sang the last lyric/word "brave" twice

    it you count the 2nd one its over if you don't its under

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    what's prop on how many bull-crap tv comercial?

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    This is why I hate props

    Even when you think it's black and white, the books find a way to make it subjective and you end up getting fukked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    not 150 secs because it is from the start of the first SINGING note


    you can see it both ways. she sang the last lyric/word "brave" twice

    it you count the 2nd one its over if you don't its under
    I guess if that's the rule. To me a song includes the piano notes, but what do I know. When liner notes show time of song, it doesn't start with vocals.

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    2016 Super Bowl prop bet results: National anthem over/under depends on your sportsbook

    By David Fucillo @davidfucillo on Feb 7, 2016, 6:55p 1


    The Super Bowl provides a variety of random prop bets connected to events on and off the field. National anthem length remains a popular prop bet, and we've got the results from Super Bowl 50.
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    Award-winning singer Lady Gaga opened Super Bowl 50 on Sunday with her rendition of the national anthem. Sportsbooks offered a chance to wager on the over/under for the performance, with the total time set at 2 minutes, 20 seconds.
    Gaga's performance initially went over that mark at 2 minutes, 22 seconds as she held the final note and took a breath before finishing with another long note. But as far as Vegas is concerned, Gaga's rendition also could have ended when she said "brave" for the first time, as you can see here.

    She repeated it to extend the time, but it could be argued that doesn't apply to the prop bet. As a result, some books are paying the OVER and some are paying the UNDER. Notably, Bovada is among those paying the under, while 5Dimes and others seem to be paying the over. Bovada says the official time for those going with the under is 2 minutes, 9 seconds.
    A year ago, Idina Manzel went over by three seconds in a deliberate pace. On the other hand, two years ago, opera star Renee Fleming came in well under thanks to a much more hurried pace. The Anthem singers are generally notable stars, but even stars can get nervous when it comes to something like singing the National Anthem at the Super Bowl.
    The best example of that might be Christina Aguilera. In 2011, Christina Aguilera was well on her way to the OVER when she skipped a verse. Her performance resulted in a PUSH for many casinos. Some elected to refund customers as nobody had noticeably flubbed the lyrics in that manner. Aguilera's performance also resulted in the addition of the wager on whether the singer will miss a word. Menzel did not miss any words in her performance a year ago, and the bet is not available this year..
    The average over the last ten years was one minute, 57 seconds, but a couple have come in way over and way under. In 2012, Kelly Clarkson completed the song in a mere one minute, 34 seconds, while Alicia Keys took two minutes, 35 seconds in 2013.
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    Bad National Anthems: When stars deliver terrible performances




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    I read the rules earlier :
    Final Decision up to book on the crazy prop bets . Say it ain't so
    So passed , they get to make the overall call should tell you enough .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollars2Donuts View Post
    I got ******.

    I had under 140.

    5dimes has decided to grade as OVER.

    5 dimes would have graded it whatever would have won them more money.

    After today, after having been a loyal 5dimes patron, I will never bet on 5dimes again. This is the fourth time they have played this crap.

    penetrate 5dimes.
    Typical whining Canadian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the kraken View Post
    this is why i hate props

    even when you think it's black and white, the books find a way to make it subjective and you end up getting fukked
    egg zack lee

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    A song includes the music and not just the lyrics. Books who don't pay the over are shafting their customers.

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    5 dimes is costa rican bookie so they can just grade wagers has they like

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