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    Bengals beat Denver tomorrow if no Manning.

    the Broncos don't need the game.
    Cincy will be in full battle axe mode.
    and Denver is soft anyway.. imagine
    how soft they will be without the sherriff
    and no reason to win.
    gonna add them to my Pats, Pack, Steelers, Cowboys
    menagerie.
    don't wait for the "announcement" that sherrif is out
    of town. that will kill the odds. hit them now when
    the public is sleeping.

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    +140 ml 1h
    +165 ml gm

    remember this line after the press reports no Manning
    and Denver has nothing to play for tomorrow.

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    You kind of have to factor in even if Cinci loses tomorrow, the week 17 match up with Pittsburgh determines the AFC north champion, making the loser of that match up the 5 seed. Given this, the Bengals technically can afford a loss tomorrow as well. With all this, maybe they look ahead to next Sunday?
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    i dont care if you play qb for the donks. i still wouldnt bet the ginger pussy in primetime..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3 View Post
    You kind of have to factor in even if Cinci loses tomorrow, the week 17 match up with Pittsburgh determines the AFC north champion, making the loser of that match up the 5 seed. Given this, the Bengals technically can afford a loss tomorrow as well. With all this, maybe they look ahead to next Sunday?
    no. Bengals need a win to get in. They sure can't count on one against Pittsburgh who
    will want home field in first playoff game. Plus with the Colts loss, AFC North is
    fighting for 3 seed, not 4th.
    http://heavy.com/sports/2014/12/afc-...eelers-ravens/

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    Regardless of the sheriff playing or not Bengals could be looking ahead. I'm a Bengals fan and I wouldn't touch them. As Banker stated it's almost impossible to back Dalton in prime time. He's gotta have a few good showings before I'd even think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walulu View Post
    Regardless of the sheriff playing or not Bengals could be looking ahead. I'm a Bengals fan and I wouldn't touch them. As Banker stated it's almost impossible to back Dalton in prime time. He's gotta have a few good showings before I'd even think about it.
    my post above answers this. it's ppl like you and banker who are keeping this at +165
    for now..... but if Manning is out, that's when it becomes real to joe public.

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    I agree with over 90 percent of this. Especially with the Pittsburgh win today, Cincy cannot afford to play around.

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    Manning is playing

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    Manning may start but I don't expect him to throw the ball very much
    he will likely be on a very tight watch
    It makes no sense for him to wear out his arm or risk a hit to the thigh
    that could knock him out of the postseason.
    the Bengals are a physical team.
    Manning should not be playing tonight. If I were John Elway I would
    step in and make him sit.
    The Patriots are not going to lose to Buffalo next week at Gillette.
    Denver has their opportunity to get a bye next week vs Oakland
    even after they lose tonight.
    Last edited by Snowball; 12-22-14 at 07:39 AM.

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    Den does have something to play for..1st round bye

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    game is about meaningless for both teams tonight but bengals certainly need to prove they can win a primetime game. Psychologically more than anything. I'd say peyton is playing and going to be a lot of running by both teams tonight.

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    Denver would be wise to run. Cincy's run D is not good. The last few weeks this has been their recipe for success.

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    I have no idea how anyone who has looked at the playoff contingencies can say that this
    game is "meaningless for both teams" or that Denver "needs" this game.
    consider:

    1. Even if Denver loses tonight and loses next week at home vs Oakland, they still have
    the second seed and a bye if Pittsburgh beats Cincy at Pittsburgh next week.
    2. If Denver loses tonight and beats Oakland next week at Mile High they clinch bye.
    3. The only scenario in which Denver would not get a bye is if they lose both games and
    Cincy beats Pitt at Pitt. Pitt is going to want that game for home field in wild card.
    Last edited by Snowball; 12-22-14 at 08:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    i dont care if you play qb for the donks. i still wouldnt bet the ginger pussy in primetime..

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    game is about meaningless for both teams tonight but bengals certainly need to prove they can win a primetime game. Psychologically more than anything. I'd say peyton is playing and going to be a lot of running by both teams tonight.
    even more reason to expect him to be a no show like always in big games and in prime time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walulu View Post
    Denver would be wise to run. Cincy's run D is not good. The last few weeks this has been their recipe for success.
    running is absolutely the way to attack bungals defense, the way donks been playing of late is exactly the way you wanna play cincy imo. no disrespect to snowman but to think peyton and donks aint worried about this one thinking they can lock up a bye next week makes no freaking sense to me. donks will wanna handle their business tonight then get peyton several weeks of rest.. he didnt sound like a guy looking past this gm to me..

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    I'm a better QB than you think. These guys are all overrated.
    I can throw a ball 60 yards and hit a guy in the chest.
    Everything is blown out of proportion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    i still wouldnt bet the ginger pussy in primetime..
    ginger pussy is hard to predict. but not always bad.

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    lol

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    I always wait 15 minutes before the game starts to bet , weather injuries etc is all last minute decision on my pick, no way i would bet cinci, they are choke masters, esp prime time/ playoffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    game is about meaningless for both teams tonight but bengals certainly need to prove they can win a primetime game. Psychologically more than anything. I'd say peyton is playing and going to be a lot of running by both teams tonight.
    yeah good point the Red head needs to prove he can deliver in a spot like this against a team like the Broncos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    yeah good point the Red head needs to prove he can deliver in a spot like this against a team like the Broncos
    and why does he need to prove it? cause he hasnt done it. expecting otherwise is the definition of insanity..

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    the ginger will choke in primetime tonight, other than that ive bet the ginger this year and hes done ok in a few games....... other than primetime against cleveland my god that was brutal

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    You have WAY too much faith in this Bengals team. Adjusted for opponents faced, they're 28th in run defense and 29th in Sack Rate. Even if Peyton wasn't playing tonight (I believe he is starting), this would be a bad bet.

    Their success this year has come at the expense of sub .500 teams and the Ravens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3 View Post
    You kind of have to factor in even if Cinci loses tomorrow, the week 17 match up with Pittsburgh determines the AFC north champion, making the loser of that match up the 5 seed. Given this, the Bengals technically can afford a loss tomorrow as well. With all this, maybe they look ahead to next Sunday?
    that 5 seed is not guaranteed

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    Also, re: Andy Dalton, via NFL.com
    Best maintenance of the Dalton Scale: Andy Dalton

    For those poor souls who don't listen to the Around the NFL podcast, the "Dalton Scale" is Chris Wesseling's inarguable theory that explains quarterback play in the NFL. If your starting quarterback is worse than Andy Dalton, you need a new quarterback. Anyone above the line is a long-term option. Jay Cutler is now on the wrong side of the Dalton scale. Ryan Tannehill has risen above.

    Dalton's 2014 season shows how he perfectly straddles the middle tier of NFL quarterbacks. He's had a few disastrous moments: the shutout in Indy, the "TNF" meltdown against the Browns and the three-pick first half against the Bucs. But he's mixed in a few excellent showings and stayed out of the way more often than not. Dalton is surrounded by great talent this year; he can struggle in a 30-0 win. It all adds up to 7.2 yards-per-attempt, 15 touchdowns, 14 interceptions, and continued status as the prime meridian of quarterback play.
    Seems pretty accurate to me.

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    Motivation is hard to predict...

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    He should play, this is likely the final week 16 of his career.
    No way he makes it through another season

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakydave View Post
    that 5 seed is not guaranteed
    or deserved!

    i kinda hope they make it tho cause there really no better fade in the playoffs (or prime time) than the ginger bitch and that moron hc..

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    Denver wants the number one seed. 2 wins and a pats lost they get it. Denver is the play tonight. Not to mention cincy never plays well in primetime games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walulu View Post
    Denver would be wise to run. Cincy's run D is not good. The last few weeks this has been their recipe for success.
    Under is the play for me.

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    Manning is in.

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    I'm glad so many posters hate the play !

    Welcome to the Jungle !

    Is this roughing the passer ?

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    It's been said in this thread numerous times. Who in their right mind puts money on Dalton in a prime time game. Denver doesn't need Manning to throw 30 times tonight. Cincy's rush D is shabby.

    I see Denver running the ball 40 times this game and using the clock. Would much rather be on the under here (47). If manning does come out of the game you are sitting pretty.

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