1. 09-14-14 05:51 AM #36
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    Your bet is intercepted.
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  2. 09-14-14 06:31 AM #37
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    Manning is virtually done
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  3. 09-14-14 07:06 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by STAX View Post
    its one game, at home vrs a team that doesn't run well...
    Newsflash: Giants do not run well. They're a mess.

    Only reason I'm off this game is that I don't trust AZ (yet) making a trip to east coast for an early game.
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  4. 09-14-14 07:08 AM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Manning is virtually done
    no confidence
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    this actually makes me feel better about my NY Giants play.
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  5. 09-14-14 07:59 AM #40
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    95 percent on zona on the streak game
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  6. 09-14-14 08:11 AM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    this actually makes me feel better about my NY Giants play.
    yes, exactly. when u get the ol' no way they can win impossible you are nuts with a chuckle and a laugh from the crowd...that is when u bet them and feel damn good too. good luck!
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  7. 09-14-14 08:14 AM #42
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    Looks like G-Men are now fav around most books.
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  8. 09-14-14 08:19 AM #43
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    That's it then Gmen win. All favorites win all the time in NFL.
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  9. 09-14-14 08:23 AM #44
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    Smart Ass. Just stating a point. If you're on the Cards best to get them now as underdogs.
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  10. 09-14-14 09:20 AM #45
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    Carson palmer probably out
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  11. 09-14-14 09:26 AM #46
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    Cardinals were almost the best team in the league in the 2nd half of last year and are still underrated. Giants offense looked terrible all preseason and just as bad in Week 1. I don't see them putting up enough points in this one. Early start is a slight concern, but its AZ for me.
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  12. 09-14-14 09:32 AM #47
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    Eli Manning last season, and the first game this season, have looked terrible. Its amazing he just keeps his starting job with no one questioning it. They got OWNED, by the Lions defense. And the lions secondary is pretty weak. They are now going up vs one of the more physical secondaries in the NFL, and a team that can get to the QB. Pretty sure Cards feel comfortable playing man on the giants wr, and just blitzing and defending the run. Surprised anybody would be willing to put their trust in Eli Manning being able to win them a bet vs a top defense in this league. Yes, it was a short week, and Zona had to travel. But to me, that just doesn't take away from all the other valid points and make them even.
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  13. 09-14-14 09:33 AM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Paz View Post
    Carson palmer probably out
    Where did you hear that sir. read this today, might be old? Do you got a different source?
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ent-hell-play/
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  14. 09-14-14 09:45 AM #49
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    Everything I have read in last 30 mins suggests Palmer is likely to play
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  15. 09-14-14 09:57 AM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by portetdaspet View Post
    Everything I have read in last 30 mins suggests Palmer is likely to play
    good news, any update on Zonas RB. I know he played last week, but did he get healthier?
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  16. 09-14-14 09:59 AM #51
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    The fact that Palmer is not at full strength, and the RB is banged up, and that this AZ defense lost several key players from last year's sold defense are all factors that push towards the NYG side. I see the Giants running game coming through today. Giants all the way here.
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  17. 09-14-14 10:01 AM #52
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    Can you really see the giants puttijg up points? Don't see it
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  18. 09-14-14 10:02 AM #53
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    Giants favorite now....
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  19. 09-14-14 10:04 AM #54
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    Books BEGGING to take AZ. Sick how this spread has moved so much.
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  20. 09-14-14 10:07 AM #55
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    You had no Idea palmer wouldnt play, giants still might lose
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    Giants favorite now....
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  21. 09-14-14 10:08 AM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheeArchBishop View Post
    The fact that Palmer is not at full strength, and the RB is banged up, and that this AZ defense lost several key players from last year's sold defense are all factors that push towards the NYG side. I see the Giants running game coming through today. Giants all the way here.
    There defense still looked pretty strong to me vs Chargers last week. Chargers have one of the best offenses in the NFL. With ryan matthews, gates/kennan allen/ They held them all in check. Again the question comes down to me. How do you bring yourself to trust Eli Manning from what you have seen the last two seasons? They had trouble moving the ball vs a bad defense. Eli just looks lost, and he will once again try to force the ball into coverage, and be intercepted.

    Besides the obvious point of Arizona having to travel west to east, after a monday night game. What other points do people see for Giants? Trying to understand why individuals would play it.
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  22. 09-14-14 10:11 AM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingJD31 View Post
    You had no Idea palmer wouldnt play, giants still might lose
    Palmer still isn't officially out. From what reports say, if he feels good in pregame he is going to play. That probably won't be released till a few minutes before kickoff.
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  23. 09-14-14 10:12 AM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingJD31 View Post
    You had no Idea palmer wouldnt play, giants still might lose
    Giants the right play either way. ...

    Win or lose.
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  24. 09-14-14 10:15 AM #59
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    Giants -2.5
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  25. 09-14-14 10:16 AM #60
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    No giants under right play either way, this offense is horrific, ive seen this movie before giants at home, boos all fuckin gm
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    Giants the right play either way. ...

    Win or lose.
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  26. 09-14-14 10:32 AM #61
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    I hope Palmer plays since he sucks.
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  27. 09-14-14 10:33 AM #62
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    hes out officially, buy back with zona if you got the giants at plus money IMO
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  28. 09-14-14 12:43 PM #63
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    10-0 Arizona late in 1st Q.

    We know Eli is $hit. We suspect Palmer is $hit, but Palmer is inactive today - so lifer backup Drew Stanton is destined for a day in the spotlight, provided the Giants don't pull Eli in favor of Nassib.

    In a crap game like this backup QBs are that "x-factor" and Stanton already led his team on 2 drives, dreaming of the starting job, most likely. Wonder what it takes to bench Eli.
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  29. 09-14-14 12:50 PM #64
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    Ref just bailed out another turnover, on what fuckin planet is it ever a good time to bet on this fuckin offense
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  30. 09-14-14 12:54 PM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Giants the right play either way. ...

    Win or lose.
    lol even with the bailouts they aren't even gonna get close to covering
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  31. 09-14-14 01:01 PM #66
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    fading picks posted by posters is money...
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  32. 09-14-14 01:03 PM #67
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    It's time Manning gets released and the head coach gets fired
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  33. 09-14-14 02:00 PM #68
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    driving all over arizona
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  34. 09-14-14 02:17 PM #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by STAX View Post
    its one game, at home vrs a team that doesn't run well... now they go across country to play a team with a head coach who loves to run the ball. Giants run game completely different than Chargers. Zona will have trouble... Giants run for 140+ as a team.... gimme +300 on 100 pts
    21 for 50 yds. 2.4 yds/carry. Best team against the run last year. It's system, not talent.
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  35. 09-14-14 02:18 PM #70
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    giants play some defence..... Get rid of manning.. put nassibb in instead
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