1. 09-08-14 10:29 AM #1
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    What would you do with RGIII ?

    'skins are stuck... damned if you do nothing , damned if you change
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  2. 09-08-14 10:31 AM #2
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    Why are they "damned if they change"? Cousins is the better QB. It's not even debatable at this point.
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  3. 09-08-14 10:40 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post

    Cousins is the better QB. It's not even debatable at this point.

    Will Cousins start next game ?

    If not... why not if what you say is true?
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  4. 09-09-14 11:19 AM #4
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    Cousins is the only option and a good one.
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    Guy is a has been
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  6. 09-09-14 11:23 AM #6
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    He wasn't really that bad in week 1, they just didn't open up the offense. Dink-and-dunk offense all game along and he had 3 carries for two yards. 29 of 37 shouldn't have such a bad result but I blame the OC for now until I see more.
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  7. 09-09-14 11:24 AM #7
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    Obvious choice is trade him back to the Rams
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  8. 09-09-14 11:31 AM #8
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    enslave him
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  9. 09-09-14 11:32 AM #9
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    Give him 6 games then release him

    real simple
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  10. 09-09-14 11:37 AM #10
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    At one point on Sunday he was 13-14 for 56 yards WTF kind of stats are those he cant move and is afraid to take a hit dumping everything off.
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  11. 09-09-14 11:41 AM #11
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    Jay Gruden is afraid to bench him
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  12. 09-09-14 11:47 AM #12
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    As a diehard skins fan and former season ticket holder, I agree with everyone here....I despise RG3 and he was always overrated and overhyped even coming out of college....A great example of a "system" QB who played in a "harry high school" offense and is a one trick pony...RG3 still can't read defenses, holds on to the ball too long (although this week it was screen pass left, screen pass right), doesn't go through his progressions and still back pedals too much and actually runs into defenders instead of avoiding them!...I.E. (he doesn't know how to step up in the pocket)....and this why our O-line gets a bad rep especially from idiotic skins fans who don't know shit about football....Kirk Cousins, in his limited action, has a much better grasp of the offense, is more accurate, and goes through his progressions and finds the hot read, etc, etc!...unfortunately, the thing you guys are forgetting is that we still have Dan Snyder as our owner and he still regards RG3 as the savior and his marketing boy toy...so to Sam Odom's point, I don't think Jay Gruden can bench him even if he wants too!...Yes, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't until that midget owner dies or sells the team (which will never happen)...
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    Give him corn
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  14. 09-09-14 12:29 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Will Cousins start next game ?

    If not... why not if what you say is true?
    oh snap. Sam is like an attorney.
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    he has a high twitter following, gotta keep him and pray
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  16. 09-09-14 02:14 PM #16
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    He got me negative in my nfl.com league. ..I had to auto pick because I was camping. ..penetrating joke
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  17. 09-09-14 02:27 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    As a diehard skins fan and former season ticket holder, I agree with everyone here....I despise RG3 and he was always overrated and overhyped even coming out of college....A great example of a "system" QB who played in a "harry high school" offense and is a one trick pony...RG3 still can't read defenses, holds on to the ball too long (although this week it was screen pass left, screen pass right), doesn't go through his progressions and still back pedals too much and actually runs into defenders instead of avoiding them!...I.E. (he doesn't know how to step up in the pocket)....and this why our O-line gets a bad rep especially from idiotic skins fans who don't know shit about football....Kirk Cousins, in his limited action, has a much better grasp of the offense, is more accurate, and goes through his progressions and finds the hot read, etc, etc!...unfortunately, the thing you guys are forgetting is that we still have Dan Snyder as our owner and he still regards RG3 as the savior and his marketing boy toy...so to Sam Odom's point, I don't think Jay Gruden can bench him even if he wants too!...Yes, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't until that midget owner dies or sells the team (which will never happen)...
    I too am a former season ticket holder and you sir, are spot on.

    I have followed them since the 60s.

    The "Dan" is the reason I am now an NFL fan, NOT a Redskins fan.
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  18. 09-09-14 02:49 PM #18
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    Cousins is so much better although will not play because he is white

    too much locker room backlash from black players
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  19. 09-09-14 02:58 PM #19
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    highly doubtful there would be black player backlash.

    Already had guys like Moss and Garcon calling him out last year.
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    No backlash because he married white woman easy game against jaguars though
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  21. 09-09-14 03:06 PM #21
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    guy has been overrated since jump, yeah he had a good rookie season but when media and fans already have him HOF year 1 what you expect when he comes back to earth
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  22. 09-09-14 03:17 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by str View Post
    I too am a former season ticket holder and you sir, are spot on.

    I have followed them since the 60s.

    The "Dan" is the reason I am now an NFL fan, NOT a Redskins fan.
    I hear ya, STR!.......but I still bleed burgundy and gold!...It's very unfortunate how RG3 and the midget owner have us hostage!....We can only hope that someone takes him out and ends his career...( I hate to wish that on anyone, but its the only solution)...I'm not willing to sacrifice another season at the expense of RG3's "progression" as an NFL QB....Having said all that, hail to the Redskins!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Cousins is so much better although will not play because he is white

    too much locker room backlash from black players
    JJ...you are in the right church but the wrong pew my friend....most of the black players actually support Cousins...last year, both Pierre Garcon and Santana Moss both publicly criticized RG3 and made their feelings known...Garcon's exact quote..."This offense sucks!..no and's, if's, or but's about it!...and we all know who's fault it is!"........however, there will be a backlash from the black community in our DMV area (DC/Maryland/Virginia) because everybody in this town loves and wants to see a black QB succeed in this league...ditto for local and national media's like ESPN...and that has caused a big racial divide amongst us skins fans...I hate bullshit political correctness crap...it makes my blood boil...this is why I hope and pray RG3 suffers a career ending injury sooner rather than later...then, and only then, can we move forward as a franchise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyburrito View Post
    highly doubtful there would be black player backlash.

    Already had guys like Moss and Garcon calling him out last year.

    Amen, !......however, you know how the black fan base who idolizes and worships RG3 will react negatively and be up in arms...it's the very reason why RG3 has been giving the keys to the kingdom, unlimited excuses for his failures, and has been dubbed as the anointed one!...
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  25. 09-09-14 03:34 PM #25
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    rg3 is out of this league in 2 years
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  26. 09-09-14 03:38 PM #26
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    Just see what the Raiders did to Schaub. They benched him and let one of the toughest defenses welcome the rookie Carr.

    I know its not the same, because RG3 is very popular, and Shaub was criticized since he signed with Oaklland, but as a coach, you have to start the player who gives the team the best chances to win a game.

    And Carr was not bad. 20 out of 32 passes, no Ints, 94.7 rating.
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  27. 09-09-14 03:54 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Why are they "damned if they change"? Cousins is the better QB. It's not even debatable at this point.
    I have said that repeatedly on this forum. Cousins is the better Q​B.
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  28. 09-09-14 03:59 PM #28
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    Gruden's hands are likely tied for the time being. Surely he, of all coaches, recognizes that RG3 doesn't have it. I mean, he was (somewhat recently) a decent quarterback himself in a league that's all pass.

    I say you start him the next three games, pray he doesn't have a great game, and then bench him at halftime in week four for Cousins.

    I always feel like when a starter sucks, everyone acts like his backup is for sure the man for the job. RG3 sucks, but that doesn't mean Cousins is great or even good. Better, very likely. The answer for the Skins though, doubtful.
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  29. 09-09-14 04:05 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Cousins is so much better although will not play because he is white

    too much locker room backlash from black players
    All you do is talk about race. You're the biggest idiot on the board
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    I would make RG III sit and learn from Cousins

    That would give him more time to learn and get totally healthy.

    Cousins is indeed the better QB!!!
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    If he sucks again vs the jags, fck it I'm out. Dropping his ass not looking back
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechaoz View Post
    He got me negative in my nfl.com league. ..I had to auto pick because I was camping. ..penetrating joke
    How is that even possible with no INT's. He had a FL and a couple sacks but damn what kind of scoring is that..
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  33. 09-09-14 05:30 PM #33
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    I hope the skins start him every week. It will force me to change my fantasy team next year. Currently I'm RG3 and 13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeVICK View Post
    If he sucks again vs the jags, fck it I'm out. Dropping his ass not looking back
    Damn you guys are freakin' out.

    I have him and Cam, I feel fine with it. It was week 1 against a pretty damn good D with new coaches, damn.
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    That sob got me 8 points
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