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    NFL MVP futures

    Like the following:

    Peyton Manning (+350): $200 to win $700 (EVEN)
    Colin Kaepernick (+3000): $100 to win $3000 (+2200)
    Adrian Peterson (+3000): $100 to win $3000 (+2200)
    LeSean McCoy (+3750): $100 to win $3750 (+2950)
    Russell Wilson (+4000): $100 to win $4000 (+3200)
    Jamaal Charles (+6500): $100 to win $6500 (+5700)
    Eddie Lacy (+12500): $50 to win $6250 (+5400)
    Mathew Stafford (+5000): $50 to win $2500 (+1650)
    Cam Newton (+5000): $50 to win $2500 (+1650)
    Johnny Manziel (+35000): $50 to win $17,500 (+16,650)

    Risking $900

    Basically fading Brees, Brady, Cutler, Luck, RG3, Peterson, and anyone not a QB or a RB... not betting Peterson has me worried though, maybe take away Chris Johnson and Vick and put that $100 on Peterson?

    Yeah, edited CJ28 (150 to 1) and Vick (200 to 1) out and added AP28
    Last edited by STAX; 07-17-14 at 09:32 PM.

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    If I had to make a bet it would be luck

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    Either Manning or Peterson will win it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    If I had to make a bet it would be luck
    if you want value Luck for sure, Ryan as well both have nice value, but it will probably be Peterson or Manning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAX View Post
    Like the following:

    Peyton Manning (+350): $200 to win $700 (EVEN)
    Colin Kaepernick (+3000): $100 to win $3000 (+2200)
    Adrian Peterson (+3000): $100 to win $3000 (+2200)
    LeSean McCoy (+3750): $100 to win $3750 (+2950)
    Russell Wilson (+4000): $100 to win $4000 (+3200)
    Jamaal Charles (+6500): $100 to win $6500 (+5700)
    Eddie Lacy (+12500): $50 to win $6250 (+5400)
    Mathew Stafford (+5000): $50 to win $2500 (+1650)
    Cam Newton (+5000): $50 to win $2500 (+1650)
    Johnny Manziel (+35000): $50 to win $17,500 (+16,650)

    Risking $900

    Basically fading Brees, Brady, Cutler, Luck, RG3, Peterson, and anyone not a QB or a RB... not betting Peterson has me worried though, maybe take away Chris Johnson and Vick and put that $100 on Peterson?

    Yeah, edited CJ28 (150 to 1) and Vick (200 to 1) out and added AP28
    - Manning is obvious
    - Kaep is not the focal point of the offense, he will never win an MVP in this league
    - AP again obvious
    - McCoy will regress this year for sure, the will lessen the load for him
    - Wilson again is not the focal point of the offense and will also never win an MVP
    - Charles will also regress this year and the chiefs will also lessen the load for him
    - Lacy will put up good stats, but won't out perform other backs and won;t jump them for an MVP (better fantasy option)
    - Stafford is the most overrated QB in the league and will never win an MVP award, Calvin will always get it before him
    - Newton has no one in the offense to give it too plus that O-line is terrible. He could win because he is the focal point of that team, but seriously doubt he does enough.
    - Johnny Football is just a no, that is literally wasting money.

    The fact you also considered Vick and CJ1K is laughable to me. Fading Brees is dumb he could easily win it. Fading Cutler also ins't smart.

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    Agree with you guys on Luck, I really like the guy, except I just dont think he has enough around him to win an MVP award, at least not yet. Maybe that fact will work in his favor though if he puts up some monster numbers. I just dont see him putting up better numbers than Cam or Stafford. You guys are wrong on Kaepernick though. he IS the focal point of the offense now. Whether or not he performs is the question. Gore, Lattimore, and Hyde are gonna split the load, and 49ers have Boldin, Crabtree, and V Davis all healthy at the same time for once.

    I also agree with you guys on Cutler, but cold weather QBs have a hard time putting up MVP type numbers, less tom Brady of course. And Cutler was like 4th or 5th on the list at +2500...

    Don't sleep on McCoy and Charles either... they will both have as many touches as last year, unless they get hurt.

    A WR isnt winning the award.

    A rookie will win it at some point, 350 to 1 on all the hype of Johnny FB is worth a shot. You seriously think 300 years from now a rookie will not have won the MVP? Come on....

    We all know the type of back CJ28 is when he is motivated. And it aint like he sucked either, never had less than 1k yards in a season, EVER...

    Yeah actually considering Vick is laughable to me now too after thinking about it more.

    And Eddie Lacy is a mfing beast... He dominated last year and was hurt every game he played. he could get 1500 rushing, 500 receiving on 60 catches, score 20 TDs, and not even break a sweat. McCarthy will pound him in the red zone, just like he did with Bettis in Pittsburgh, so 20 TDs+ is almost excepted if he plays all 16 games.

    Russell Wilson will win an MVP before his career is done. More weapons now and an aging Lynch will work in his favor, plus it never hurts to play on the best team.
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    I like Brees. He already got snubbed once, he'll def have the fantasy stats to put him in it.

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    Also fading Rodgers too, forgot to mention him in the OP... Lacy takes away at least 10 TDs from him this year... reason Im fading all those top QBs is because I cant see any of them outperforming Peyton. it is Peyton's to lose, and if someone is gonna outperform Manning it has to be a QB that does it on the ground, or does it with a shitty team. Cutler is the only guy I think who could put up Peyton-like numbers of the guys Im fading and beat him out straight up. Still hard to do playing in the Windy City

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    No Calvin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAX View Post
    Agree with you guys on Luck, I really like the guy, except I just dont think he has enough around him to win an MVP award, at least not yet. Maybe that fact will work in his favor though if he puts up some monster numbers. I just dont see him putting up better numbers than Cam or Stafford. You guys are wrong on Kaepernick though. he IS the focal point of the offense now. Whether or not he performs is the question. Gore, Lattimore, and Hyde are gonna split the load, and 49ers have Boldin, Crabtree, and V Davis all healthy at the same time for once. - Kaep is not the focal point, they are a run first team and won't magically switch from over night, Harbaugh ain't changing what has worked.

    I also agree with you guys on Cutler, but cold weather QBs have a hard time putting up MVP type numbers, less tom Brady of course. And Cutler was like 4th or 5th on the list at +2500...

    Don't sleep on McCoy and Charles either... they will both have as many touches as last year, unless they get hurt There is no way they both see the same touches, Kelly added Sproles for a reason and Charles will see less work because Reid knows not to kill his RB.

    A WR isnt winning the award Not ture, a WR could easily win it to discount them entirely is foolish.

    A rookie will win it at some point, 350 to 1 on all the hype of Johnny FB is worth a shot. You seriously think 300 years from now a rookie will not have won the MVP? Come on... Johnny Football is going to never win an MVP because he will get hurt often in his career and this yr they will lead the league in carries (remember this in fantasy drafts)

    We all know the type of back CJ28 is when he is motivated. And it aint like he sucked either, never had less than 1k yards in a season, EVER..A. he has averaged 4.0 yards per carry 2 of the last 3 years, that is so bad. B. he is sharing the workload. Betting CJ1k to win MVP is literally setting fire to money. O and avoid him in fantasy.

    Yeah actually considering Vick is laughable to me now too after thinking about it more.

    And Eddie Lacy is a mfing beast... He dominated last year and was hurt every game he played. he could get 1500 rushing, 500 receiving on 60 catches, score 20 TDs, and not even break a sweat. McCarthy will pound him in the red zone, just like he did with Bettis in Pittsburgh, so 20 TDs+ is almost excepted if he plays all 16 games Lacy is not getting 20 TD's that's not going to happen they pass way to much in the RZ to even consider that.

    Russell Wilson will win an MVP before his career is done. More weapons now and an aging Lynch will work in his favor, plus it never hurts to play on the best team Seattle doesn't ask him to do much and will continue to do that his entire career, he will never win an MVP
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    love Lesean Mccoy at that number, he is the only 1 I would actually consider making a play on. Will likely make a small play on him as the season approaches.

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    simply NO CAN DO !!

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    Brees is also definitely a threat to win it. Another guy who will likely put up big numbers is Matt Ryan with a healthy receiver core. I would think he is a very juicy number as well and is probably worth a play.

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    only reason rodgers had so many rushing TD and 1 yard TD passes is bc the pack never had a RB worth a shiit. McCarthey loves the run, he just never had the guy to show it with, now he does...

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