1. 12-01-13 10:19 PM #1
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    Saints over Seahawks on Monday Night

    All the value lies with New Orleans in this matchup. For the longest time, we could count on books underestimating Seattle's homefield advantage. Once they dismantled the 49ers in Week 2, that was all put to an end and Vegas finally adjusted. Don't get me wrong - Seattle is a great team and very well may win the NFC. But I am taking the Saints in this matchup. Even though Seattle is coming off the bye, New Orleans had a week and a half to prepare and they will be ready.


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  2. 12-01-13 10:21 PM #2
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    line movement indicates the saints lose by 10-12 points. good luck
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  3. 12-01-13 10:26 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    line movement indicates the saints lose by 10-12 points. good luck

    Those darn teasers them.
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  4. 12-01-13 10:33 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Those darn teasers them.

    lol- i know you are not taking me seriously but for sure its a teaser move. if it wasnt it would not have gone down back up and then down again.
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  5. 12-01-13 10:36 PM #5
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    I would play the Saints are also here

    Seattle due for a bad game
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  6. 12-01-13 10:51 PM #6
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    Nice avatar JJ, I didn't know Rogue Scholar was back at the forum and had an extra 100 points to spend.
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    sea 12th man drown out brees's audibles
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  8. 12-01-13 10:58 PM #8
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    tell us again how the oddsmakers are stupid for making the chiefs +6.5 today.

    lol
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  9. 12-01-13 10:59 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    tell us again how the oddsmakers are stupid for making the chiefs +6.5 today.

    lol


    Fukktard can't even read. My point was that it was funny how quickly public perception changes.

    Man you are fukking stupid. But I know you need to troll heavy tonight after getting drilled yet again this weekend. Lmao at losing 3100. Just another day at the office for you you stupid fukk.
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  10. 12-02-13 01:05 AM #10
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    That broke Jew crusty doesn't have $3100...broke and Jewish, what a funny combo!
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  11. 12-02-13 01:23 AM #11
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    line movement whatttt..means zero
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  12. 12-02-13 01:49 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    line movement whatttt..means zero
    . Well u want to buy. At the very best price.
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  13. 12-02-13 01:54 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    All the value lies with New Orleans in this matchup. For the longest time, we could count on books underestimating Seattle's homefield advantage. Once they dismantled the 49ers in Week 2, that was all put to an end and Vegas finally adjusted. Don't get me wrong - Seattle is a great team and very well may win the NFC. But I am taking the Saints in this matchup. Even though Seattle is coming off the bye, New Orleans had a week and a half to prepare and they will be ready.


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    they dismantlwd niners previous yr also. And prevoius to that they dismantled new orleans
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  14. 12-02-13 01:58 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by vividjohn45 View Post
    they dismantlwd niners previous yr also. And prevoius to that they dismantled new orleans
    On the ats and ml wagers. For another risked 100 could have ur wager basket full of 5 pts
    Instead of a copycat ml
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  15. 12-02-13 02:01 AM #15
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    Trying to follow logic. Ir saying seattle is over valued here at -5.5?. Saying line is wrong? What should the real line be then?
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  16. 12-02-13 02:36 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by vividjohn45 View Post
    Trying to follow logic. Ir saying seattle is over valued here at -5.5?. Saying line is wrong? What should the real line be then?
    I think it's overvalued by 2 points or so. I'd take NO anywhere over +3. Really think people are underestimating the losses of Thurmond and Browner. I took Saints at +5. I'll put a small bet on the ML as well.
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  17. 12-02-13 08:04 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by vividjohn45 View Post
    Trying to follow logic. Ir saying seattle is over valued here at -5.5?. Saying line is wrong? What should the real line be then?
    I'm saying for the longest time Seattle was undervalued at home. Now it has flipped to the other side (although not by much).
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  18. 12-02-13 08:52 AM #18
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    mush play
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  19. 12-02-13 08:53 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    I'm saying for the longest time Seattle was undervalued at home. Now it has flipped to the other side (although not by much).
    I'm with vividjohn here. What did you expect the line to be? Seattle is 5-0 at home this season after being 8-0 last year. New Orleans is notoriously mediocre on the road. Rain/snow mix today and temps below freezing tonight. If anything, I'd say -4.5 is a generous # for the Seahawks, not the Saints.
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  20. 12-02-13 09:09 AM #20
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    The Saints lost to the fucken Jets on the road, that should tell you everything.
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  21. 12-02-13 09:18 AM #21
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    I have the Saints +13.5 in the last leg of a $3000 teaser.. im feeling very good about it
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  22. 12-02-13 09:38 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Blaze View Post
    I have the Saints +13.5 in the last leg of a $3000 teaser.. im feeling very good about it

    you should cash that but it will be touch and go.
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  23. 12-02-13 10:19 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I'm with vividjohn here. What did you expect the line to be? Seattle is 5-0 at home this season after being 8-0 last year. New Orleans is notoriously mediocre on the road. Rain/snow mix today and temps below freezing tonight. If anything, I'd say -4.5 is a generous # for the Seahawks, not the Saints.
    First off its 5.5. I know these teams are different now but a few years ago NO was a 10 pt fave as a wild card team AT Qwest.

    So for the third and final time, my point is that books have finally caught up to Seattle's great homefield advantage. Again, this happened after Week 2's dismantling of San Fran.
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  24. 12-02-13 11:23 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Blaze View Post
    I have the Saints +13.5 in the last leg of a $3000 teaser.. im feeling very good about it
    That part of your teaser is a LOCK... Hope the other parts hold up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMan View Post
    That broke Jew crusty doesn't have $3100...broke and Jewish, what a funny combo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post

    Post something relevant. You seem dumb and drunk in your vids but I still think your capable of more than the occasional rofl emoticon.
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    G/L Wiz, don't really like it though.
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  30. 12-02-13 03:57 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    The Saints lost to the fucken Jets on the road, that should tell you everything.
    Patriots got beat by the jets too. I bet you still bet on them.
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  31. 12-02-13 04:09 PM #31
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    didn't even see this thread. love the saints too. Seattle is missing too many key players. 2 of their best defensive players, plus no Harvin, no Rice. This line is ridiculous.

    Saints are playing play great this game then be sore as hell for next week when they play Newton and Carolina and they'll probably get their first lost in the superdome nxt week too.

    that's how i see it playing out.
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    saints moneyline. they show up and win or get torched. dont waste the juice.
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    Total has been going up all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    All the value lies with New Orleans in this matchup. For the longest time, we could count on books underestimating Seattle's homefield advantage. Once they dismantled the 49ers in Week 2, that was all put to an end and Vegas finally adjusted. Don't get me wrong - Seattle is a great team and very well may win the NFC. But I am taking the Saints in this matchup. Even though Seattle is coming off the bye, New Orleans had a week and a half to prepare and they will be ready.



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    Total agreement here. The value is hidden deep inside the Saints.
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  35. 12-02-13 06:59 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    didn't even see this thread. love the saints too. Seattle is missing too many key players. 2 of their best defensive players, plus no Harvin, no Rice. This line is ridiculous.

    Saints are playing play great this game then be sore as hell for next week when they play Newton and Carolina and they'll probably get their first lost in the superdome nxt week too.

    that's how i see it playing out.

    I don't know about that game next week. Carolina is gaining confidence with each game.

    Seattle never really has Harvin or Rice so I don't see the big deal there.
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