Any selfishness in this situation? Why not let Arians finish this year out since he is the one that turned the team around? Just a thought.
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12-31-12 08:28 AM #1
Does Chuck Pagano come back to coach if Colts were 4-11?
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12-31-12 08:31 AM #2
I think he comes back if they're 14-1, 10-5, or 1-14. I'm sure he discussed it with Arians as well, and they are on the same page with everything.
Originally Posted by seaborneq
So, in my opinion, no selfishness in the situation.
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12-31-12 08:37 AM #3
Just seems like he came back to steal the spotlight from an otherwise great season on the field.
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12-31-12 08:39 AM #4
If you are asking this question, then you know nothing about coaches.
Coaches coach. It's what they do. It's what they live for.
Pagano would have wanted to coach if they were 1-15 or 15-1.
It's who they are.
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12-31-12 09:00 AM #5
saloon this shit.
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12-31-12 09:04 AM #6
the guy has cancer and you are accusing him of stealing spot light????
C'mon man that's not right.
I'll give you the the Benifet of doubt in this case but this thread is ignorant at best.
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12-31-12 09:45 AM #7
Everyone on the same page.
However....who wins Coach of the Year? Does it get split between Ariens and Pagano?
I think that would be a very nice idea.
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12-31-12 09:55 AM #8
Maybe Pete Carroll or Shannan get it.. Originally Posted by VegasInsider
I know its a feel good story but how do you give it to a coach who wasnt there most of the season.
I mean Colts werent as bad as their record last year, I think Shannan gets it, they had been awful for a few years in a row ..
then again who knows, give it to all of them
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12-31-12 10:00 AM #9
I don't think its a silly question.
it didn't have to even be a conscious decision on the part of Chuck.
with all we know about science and medicine, there is still a very large and real % of healing that is a mystery and intertwined with the intangibles contained within a patient and their circumstances.
I could see how the Colt's season, gave Chuck extra motivation, hope, energy, and positive feelings (which come from positive healing neurotransmitters/hormones ect) this all contributed to Chuck getting healthy in time to come back. Hell the cognitive dissonance from his post game speech after a victory about dancing with his daughters at his wedding and winning super bowl rings, might have been enough.
If the Colts were 4-11 entering yesterdays game, Chuck might still have been literally too weak to get out of his hospital bed.
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12-31-12 10:01 AM #10
Part of me thinks because they were doing so well, he shouldnt of come back to coach, obviously they won so its a moot point, but they clearly had a good flow with bruce bruce coaching them Originally Posted by Chi_archie
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12-31-12 10:04 AM #11
Hope the Ravens bum penetrate them so we don't have to listen about this 5 win team anymore.
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12-31-12 10:20 AM #12
Kind of Bs that the colts have to go to Baltimore event though the Colts have a better record.
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12-31-12 11:39 AM #13
It's not like this is anything new... you win the division, you get a home game. Originally Posted by boombaby1987
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12-31-12 01:23 PM #14
I could not have said it better myself. That was eloquent, well thought out, and well versed. Not the norm on the degenerate website. Thanks Arch. Originally Posted by Chi_archie
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12-31-12 02:59 PM #15
i think it should have been arians for the rest of the year, let pagano be a cheerleader and come back next season.
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12-31-12 03:43 PM #16
Something a lot of people are not acknowledging is that a lot of the groundwork for the Colts record was laid by Pagano and his staff before a ball was even kicked off this year. Pagano is the head guy and he is back in his role. It was planned to go like that.
So yeah Arians has done a good job in Pagano's absence, but Pagano is the guy to take them forward from here. Who knows it may even give the Colts an extra spark.
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12-31-12 04:14 PM #17
Don't kid yourselves...
Andrew Luck turned this team around...
No one else...
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12-31-12 05:01 PM #18
Originally Posted by seaborneq
Oh my, I can't believe you would think in those terms.
Guy is diagnosed as very serious , very fatal type of cancer and he is thinking about a spotlight?????
Has a family and kids and he is thinking about a spotlight????
Is a coach, a mentor, and has young kids playing for him as well as other coaches and feels as though he has let a team and those young men and families down and he is thinking about a spotlight?????
I can guarantee you that you are way way off on that thought.
It ain't even close.
Honestly, I can't believe you would think that in this scenario.
Not hating, but really stunned at the notion.
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12-31-12 05:03 PM #19
If it was me I wouldn't have come back. Would not want to be a distraction to the team.
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12-31-12 06:14 PM #20
If I was the owner I'd get rid of pagano and promote arians.
But no one would ever do that cuz its too politically incorrect.
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12-31-12 06:17 PM #21
seriously man. I couldn't believe it when I saw this thread. Originally Posted by str
these guys are a team and they are a family.
Every player on that team would have ran through a brick wall to win that game yesterday for him.
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12-31-12 06:36 PM #22
Originally Posted by Big Bear
When you dedicate your life, and I mean life, to something that you spend every minute working on , with or thinking about, and when you are the person responsible for so many people and therefore families, it becomes part of you.
Anyone associated with this team has learned more in the past 4 months than they probably had in the past 4 years. About life, themselves, and others. Forget football, what was witnessed on the field was simply a byproduct of what was experienced by all involved.
This guy, what he and his family went through and will continue to go through IS this years version of the Indy Colts. Had this not occurred, it is highly doubtful they would have been anything near what they are.
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12-31-12 06:38 PM #23
I am glad to see that some people really get it. Originally Posted by Big Bear
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12-31-12 07:07 PM #24
Its a family alright. They fired nearly a third of the coaches today. Its a business. Originally Posted by Big Bear
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12-31-12 07:50 PM #25
just stop Originally Posted by seaborneq
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12-31-12 08:02 PM #26
Pagano is the HC
Bruce was named interim HC
get it?
Pagano was the guy helping to build and put together this almost brand new team (compared to last year's roster)
Pagano was the guy coaching them
He found out he had something that had to be taken care of before he could coach again
He is now back
Pagano is the HC
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12-31-12 08:02 PM #27
Wow..I'm stunned by that comment....only at SBR...damn Originally Posted by seaborneq
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12-31-12 08:37 PM #28
he came back a few days after his doctor gave him the test results saying everything looks good. sure maybe if they were 2-13 going into the last game of the season, would he come back to coach the game? i would still say so, he wants to be back with his guys and go back to work. anybody who has dealt with cancer or any illness that is so harsh just wants to get back to normal as soon as possible.
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12-31-12 10:13 PM #29
Yep only at sbr. Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez
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12-31-12 10:34 PM #30
Spot-on! Pagano couldn't stay healthy. Arians rose to the challenge. Pagano nosed in to get his 15 minutes of fame. Originally Posted by stealthyburrito
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12-31-12 10:35 PM #31
If they were 1-14, he would have "chuck"-ed the season.
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12-31-12 10:38 PM #32
Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat
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01-01-13 09:36 AM #33
Correct, but not politically correct. Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat
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01-01-13 10:05 AM #34
The Colts did give Pagano the Game Ball,in recognition of an outstanding contribution to a team victory.
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01-01-13 10:25 AM #35
The way I see it is this.....he's the HC, bottom line. He has the right to come back and none of us can judge his heart and motives. That said, I do believe that there are people in this world who have/will use something so deeply moving and serious, to promote themselves. To think otherwise, is being naive. There are some people who can be so selfish no matter what the circumstances are. Again, I have no idea as to where Pagano's heart is and I cannot judge his motive. He has the right to be the HC, no matter what the situation is. He should be continued to be prayed for as he may not be out of the woods yet. Cancer is an ugly, ugly thing.
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