[seaborneq]

Poetic justice if he does and wins, damaging the bears hope of making the playoffs.

[BigTenSports]

Yes he does, but he won't win. There is a pattern presenting itself for first game starters this year in the NFL.

Carson Palmer's first game, Hanie's first game, etc. Have any of them won besides for God's gift to football, Tebow?

[Mr Handicapable]

Poetic justice if he does and wins, damaging the bears hope of making the playoffs.

Bears win with me at QB....Orton or not. Bears did nothing wrong to Orton....he's not as good as Cutler although he's ok. Houston should offer something to KC for him since KC isn't going anywhere and Orton isn't in their plans anyway. Houston has the running game/defense to hang in the AFC with decent QB play.

[oiler]

orton is a bad as they come but hanie is no prize eitherbut would stay with hanie before orton

[k13]

Yes he does, but he won't win. There is a pattern presenting itself for first game starters this year in the NFL.

Carson Palmer's first game, Hanie's first game, etc. Have any of them won besides for God's gift to football, Tebow?

Why did you think Hanie was going to win and play well then?

[seaborneq]

Bears win with me at QB....Orton or not. Bears did nothing wrong to Orton....he's not as good as Cutler although he's ok. Houston should offer something to KC for him since KC isn't going anywhere and Orton isn't in their plans anyway. Houston has the running game/defense to hang in the AFC with decent QB play.

Get your gear and get on over to soldier field then. I didn't see anything in hanie that says bears will win many games with him under center.

[seaborneq]

Kc's defense looked real good against Pittsburg last night. 10 points might win that game. And no one is worse than tyler palko.

[BigTenSports]

Why did you think Hanie was going to win and play well then?

I thought Martz would be smart enough to be conservative.

Truthfully, the Bears win that game yesterday if Hanie doesn't make any stupid forced throws and I figured that would be pounded into his head. He cost the Bears around 17 points and they lost by 5.

I'm pretty sure that this time, Hanie will realize that if he just plays smart football, the Bears will win the game and he won't try to force throws. I'm assuming anyway.

[d2bets]

I thought Martz would be smart enough to be conservative.

Truthfully, the Bears win that game yesterday if Hanie doesn't make any stupid forced throws and I figured that would be pounded into his head. He cost the Bears around 17 points and they lost by 5.

I'm pretty sure that this time, Hanie will realize that if he just plays smart football, the Bears will win the game and he won't try to force throws. I'm assuming anyway.

Yep, that one gadget play at the end of the first half which is a terrible call in that situation with any QB was a minimum 6 point swing and probably cost the game. Marty cost the game with that call. The Bears were 6 yards from a 5 point halftime lead, instead they went in down 5. In a field goal kicking game that made all the difference.

[Mr Handicapable]

Martz is a dumba$$. It was confirmed in Martz's own words in the NFL Network special on Kurt Warner. Martz thought he was a genius because he had Warner, Faulk, Holt, etc. but he screwed it up and didn't run enough with Faulk costing them atleast 1 SB and then blamed Warner & replaced him with Bulger. KC has been blown out how many times this year? Bears still roll in this one.

[Mr Handicapable]

Get your gear and get on over to soldier field then. I didn't see anything in hanie that says bears will win many games with him under center.

He'll be alright....IT WAS HIS FIRST FRIGGIN GAME Here's their remaining schedule:

KC
@ Denver
Seattle
@GB
@ Minnesota

KC = easy win
Denver = Don't throw a pick-6 and you only need 14 max to win vs Tebow. Urlacher, Peppers, Briggs vs a high school passing game....see Lions game tape!

Seattle = Stop Lynch & win the game
@ GB = Oh well
@ Minnesota = They'll have their bags packed and golf clubs out

4-1 is very very possible

[BigTenSports]

He'll be alright....IT WAS HIS FIRST FRIGGIN GAME Here's their remaining schedule:

KC
@ Denver
Seattle
@GB
@ Minnesota

KC = easy win
Denver = Don't throw a pick-6 and you only need 14 max to win vs Tebow. Urlacher, Peppers, Briggs vs a high school passing game....see Lions game tape!

Seattle = Stop Lynch & win the game
@ GB = Oh well
@ Minnesota = They'll have their bags packed and golf clubs out

4-1 is very very possible

Agreed. I think they'll go 3-2 over these 5 and make the playoffs at 10-6. 4-1 is possible though, you're right, but I"m expecting Hanie to choke one of the two games, either at Minnesota or at Denver.

[seaborneq]

I wouldn't count the Chiefs as a victory after what I saw last night. A decent qb beats the Steelers last night. Orton couldn't be worse than Falco. Yes he played last night like he was in an 80's band.

[d2bets]

Bears haven't lost to a team coming into Soldier Field under .500 in more than 4 years.

[k13]

So this -9 is with Orton, is he officially starting?

[d2bets]

So this -9 is with Orton, is he officially starting?

My understanding is that is the plan. Rather tall task. I don't think people understand how hard it is to jump right in the middle of the season and start at QB for a new team with a new offense. And to do it on the road, in a hostile environment, against a good defense. Tall task indeed. I would guess they run the ball a lot and keep the offense just as simple as possible. Also doesn't help that his receivers aren't that good and you got a guy like Dwayne Bowe who isn't interested in fighting for the ball.

37 total is a low number for good reason. Expect both teams to run the ball, a lot. Teasing the Bears down below 3 looks pretty good if possible.

[NickJ3]

"Any Given Sunday"

[d2bets]

When was the last time a QB joined a team for the first time more than halfway through the season and started within the first couple weeks? Can anyone think of any? And I don't mean a backup, I mean a guy coming in cold with no history with that team.

[seaborneq]

When was the last time a QB joined a team for the first time more than halfway through the season and started within the first couple weeks? Can anyone think of any? And I don't mean a backup, I mean a guy coming in cold with no history with that team.

Carson palmer ring a bell. Keg collins. Brett favre three times, just to name a few.

[d2bets]

Carson palmer ring a bell. Keg collins. Brett favre three times, just to name a few.

Duh, yeah, Palmer, that didn't work out so well the first couple weeks.

Collins was beginning of the year, that's different. Favre never changed teams midseason either.

Palmer is the only one that comes to mind.

I think first game or two in this kind of situation is very perilous.