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    Is anyone afraid to take the Patriots @ Raiders this Sunday?

    Are all the Patriots Offense healthy to play?
    Patriots Defense has been lagging it.
    Raiders play hard and look like the real deal this year.
    Why is the spread starting at -4 for the Pats? Shouldn't it be at least -7?
    Raiders play like the Bills.
    I'm scared......

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    if you're scared then don't play it.. as simple as that.. there's so many games on the board..

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    Last edited by sneakerhead; 09-29-11 at 11:37 AM.

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    What happens if they double team and shut down Walker?

    Patriots have no other weapons.

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    Listen bud , I am on Pats -4 bookmakers are gonna get crushed that line should be -7.5 , you tell me what oakland can do to stop the pats offense or tell me what oakland can do to keep up scoring wise.

    Raiders may pull a few surprise plays but thats about it pal


    PATS ALL THE WAY

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    yes. i saw what they did to the jets. pats defense is much worse. also i believe raiders will get to the pocket and disrupt brady. might take +4 raiders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by face View Post
    yes. i saw what they did to the jets. pats defense is much worse. also i believe raiders will get to the pocket and disrupt brady. might take +4 raiders.
    Some places have Raiders +3.5 now.

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    classic case of trying to read into a game too much and trying to be a wise guy taking the points .. 4 has no value now if it was plus 7 at home i would say yeah maybe.

    But fact is Patriots are a better team and if you cant see that then your a hamburger

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    afraid, no?
    reluctant, yes?

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    Smart money got pats-3

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    good question. i would think they win this game by about 13 points but im even hesitant to take them moneyline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    good question. i would think they win this game by about 13 points but im even hesitant to take them moneyline.
    Feel the same, might unload on the moneyline though after I get an idea about the injury reports

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    Yep, I think Pats bounce back and win by double didgets. GL

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    why do people still discuss patriot games????




    listen guys, the patriots are 16-3 on OVERS heading back to last season. You just play the over in every one of their games and forget everything else



    this game will have around 65-70 points just like the bills-pats game

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    Won't hit 65-70, I personally think it will be UNDER 55. NE 31-20

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    Might hit over, both defenses suck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deol View Post
    Won't hit 65-70, I personally think it will be UNDER 55. NE 31-20

    the raiders are averaging about 31 points per game, what makes you think a terrible patriots defense will hold them to less than that with the raiders playing at home???


    I also think 31 is too low for the pats. The oakland secondary is awful and brady will look to throw the ball a million times to reassert his dominance after a 4 pick game, I got pats scoring closer to 35-40+

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    I just gave this game 20 minutes worth of thought, if Brady gets any type of up front protection, there is no reason why he should not shread the Oakland defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I just gave this game 20 minutes worth of thought, if Brady gets any type of up front protection, there is no reason why he should not shread the Oakland defense.

    he always does, the patriots offensive line is just unbelievable as usual



    the patriots are an over bettors dream. Very powerful offense that likes to throw the ball 50 times a game (you extend the game by not running too much and eating too much clock) with arguably the best QB in league history. On the other side of the ball, you got a defense that really can't do anything right...can't stop the run, can't play the pass and can't get a pass rush


    McFadden might have 200 yards rushing in this one
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    Laying off. I went against Brady last week, do not want to push my luck. However, I don't like that soft Patriot defense.

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    Patriots team total over might be a good play depending on the number

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    Pats are going to be a huge square play. Maybe thats why I love them here. The Raiders are good at getting pressure but their secondary is bad bad bad. Really like the Pats in the first half.

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    Parlayed Pats -4.5 with MN -1.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Pats are going to be a huge square play. Maybe thats why I love them here. The Raiders are good at getting pressure but their secondary is bad bad bad. Really like the Pats in the first half.

    the pats defense has gotta show me something before I can start backing that team again



    they might allow 500 yards of offense in this game against a team filled with a lot of explosive athletes

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    I will be putting a few on the pats to cover and win.

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    The Patriots are a more popular team and has had more recent success. They are also a better team. (be carefull) Have you ever heard of Tom Brady???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayneelvis View Post
    The Patriots are a more popular team and has had more recent success. They are also a better team. (be carefull) Have you ever heard of Tom Brady???
    Yes we have. Have you ever heard of Ryan Fitzpatrick who beat him last week as a 7.5 underdog?

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    I like Raiders at home...

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    dont forget mcfaddens running like the unholy lovechild of forrest gump and seabiscuit right now.
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    Oakland ml

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    Raiders and Over......If Raiders don't cover, OVER almost definitely hits, but there's a good chance you win both

    I actually like Raiders getting points more than the Over but do what you want

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Raiders and Over......If Raiders don't cover, OVER almost definitely hits, but there's a good chance you win both I actually like Raiders getting points more than the Over but do what you want

    tease on raiders and over is not a bad idea, but the patriots win so many games by big margins that it's scary to even tease a home opponent against them

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    tease on raiders and over is not a bad idea, but the patriots win so many games by big margins that it's scary to even tease a home opponent against them
    I don't know....if you like Patriots, why would you tease them and cross zero?

    I like the Raiders, and actually think they win straight up

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    tease on raiders and over is not a bad idea, but the patriots win so many games by big margins that it's scary to even tease a home opponent against them
    I

    I Agree to the fullest

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    I would not touch Raiders ML

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