[dayacorp]

Members I need help. I placed a bet at Fairmount Park yesterday through Bodog. I hit it
for $4000. They came back to me later saying that the bet was invalid because it was supposedly
done after post time. To which I wondered how that can happened. They claim it was 2 minutes
too late. They claim they had problems with their "provider" although no one ever could tell me
who this "provider" was. Then I made bets against my winnings. I lost on some and now they are
claiming that not only are they not gonna pay off my win but also want me to PAY BACK the losses.
Is there any recourse I have here? I have pm'd BodogBecky. I luckily found this forum and hope
someone can help. Thanks!

[dayacorp]

I notice alot of views but no replies. Can anyone help me out on this?

[CrimsonQueen]

First of all, look at your account and see what time the bet was placed. You can do that through your account history, as long as it was in the last 31 days. If you placed the bet after the race started, game over, you lose. If you didn't, them PM Justin7 with the screen shot of your bet and tell him the situation. Also post the screenshot in here cuz I'd love to see it. Good luck.

[dayacorp]

It says bet was placed at 2:08 although I have 3 witnesses that saw me place the wagers and they were all done between 1:56 and 1:58 pm edt. I am just saying how can you even put in a bet past post time?

[dayacorp]

Also, they accepted the bet. They did not tell me this until later that night.Is there any recourse? Anybody?

[MTek]

Its doubtful, these internet books are the new wild west, they're all offshore so there's very little recourse past them playing nice with you.
I agree with you, if their system TAKES your bet, regardless of the time you posted it they should pay you for it

[leafsfan19]

you can guarantee that if your bet lost, that would have been the last of it lol

[Nittany Lion]

you can guarantee that if your bet lost, that would have been the last of it lol

Exactly

[Mistongo]

It would be sick if they could change the timestamp.
But i don't think Bodog would do this for $4000 either.
I don't know how you can prove you placed the bet in time if the timestamp shows otherwise.

Maybe some IT person can help you check for some data trace/history at the time you say you placed your bet?

[dayacorp]

Yes, I have no recourse. Hopefully they will do what is right. That is all I can hope for.

[yokes33]

I think I'm staying away from Bodog, if been hearing this happening more than once.

[Fieldysnuts44]

They always pay me.I usually have it in 8 hrs.**

[Krashman]

You should always take a screenshot of your wager right after it is accepted.

This way you have some evidence if things are not graded the way you think they should have been.

And more than once in my 6 years of online wagering, I have thought a wager was graded wrong and checked my screenshot and discovered I had made the mistake!

[ViPeRz]

Good luck with this Dayacorp. I hope you can get this cleared up.

[cigar]

witnesses? 1:58 and 2:08 is a big difference, what time did the race go off?

bodog wants him to pay back losses on wagers after his account was credited with a win?? That's messed up.

[BodogBecky]

Its doubtful, these internet books are the new wild west, they're all offshore so there's very little recourse past them playing nice with you.
I agree with you, if their system TAKES your bet, regardless of the time you posted it they should pay you for it

Just to clarify, bodog.com is run out of Kahnawake, Canada and is subject to civil law of Canada. The wild west days of the online gambling industry were back in the 1990's...the international companies now offering services are considered normal mainstream business by everyone in the world today and are run from cities like London, which is also where I live.

Also, bets are legal if they follow the rules of the site. Software glitches of any sort do not change the rules of the site.

Thanks,
Becky

[cigar]

gosh how i loved the wild west with pinnacle and netteller

[jetsjets1028]

lol looks like u went to bad site

[cigar]

Fairmount park is 20 minutes from the gateway to the west, London, and Canada......what time is bodog checking these things in at? They credit the guys account and he makes wagers so now he's playing on credit......scares off of bodog even if he says he has witnesses

[Bill Dozer]

dayacorp,

Past posting happens with horses because there are no official start times. Most books have a buffer period of time where the player may have his bet canceled if the race starts within two minutes of when placed. All books use feeds from the tacks. It's a liability for players and a flawed system but this is the way that business works. We tell players to check the rules at their book and get in well before that buffer time whether it be 1 min, 2 or 5.

Players who past post often get their money in play again right after the race to confuse the account history and have the argument that the subsequent winning bets should count...usually bets that they wouldn't otherwise had the money to make. I'd have to look at your account history but we can ask Bodog that if your subsequent bets won after past post, would they have allowed you to keep the winnings from the money bet with the false winnings. If no, then they should forgive your subsequent bets. They are very logical and will give players the benefit of the doubt.

[dayacorp]

Well, update. They said they are going to "forgive" my balance.lol I made my bet into their system legally. My job is to fund the bet, make the bet, and make sure it is right. I have 4 people now that was going to start a Bodog account that now will not touch the site. I did not do anything wrong. I made a bet and it was consistent with any of the wagers that I made that lost before. Nothing would have ever been done if it was a losing ticket. So my advice is stay away from Bodog. If you win they will do everything in their power not to pay you. They will make you fill out forms that they will never ask you to fill out if you lose. There is not rules Mr Dozer on their site about buffers. I talked with two race sites who told me they have never had this happen. If there was a problem with their "provider" then their "provider" should have to pay up. I understand glitches but it is like the casino when a player hits big on a slot and then someone mysteriously say oh well it is broken. This amount of money is of no consequence to them. It means alot to me. I work and bet honestly and I expect the same fairness to me. Even Bodog Becky cant do anything for me. So I guess they will accept a wager but not pay it off. That is bad business and I hope I can affect players that this is not a site to go to.

[sq764]

Members I need help. I placed a bet at Fairmount Park yesterday through Bodog. I hit it
for $4000. They came back to me later saying that the bet was invalid because it was supposedly
done after post time. To which I wondered how that can happened. They claim it was 2 minutes
too late. They claim they had problems with their "provider" although no one ever could tell me
who this "provider" was. Then I made bets against my winnings. I lost on some and now they are
claiming that not only are they not gonna pay off my win but also want me to PAY BACK the losses.
Is there any recourse I have here? I have pm'd BodogBecky. I luckily found this forum and hope
someone can help. Thanks!

they're pieces of shit there.... not that it helps you, but they're weak...

just fight them for it and threaten to make it public... thats all you can do

[MarlinsFan2212]

Based on my Bodog experience, they will payout customers. However I will say they are a very cheap/stingy book in comparison with others. As Ive mentioned in numerous casino threads, their comp is terrible. Their bonuses are designed to be 100% beneficial to them.

For example for their March Madness promo I had to wager 50,000 playing Keno (could of been any excluding BJ,Craps, Baccarat, etc), to earn 375 dollars in free money.
Most books are selfish, actually let me correct myself, ALL books are selfish, and Bodog is the King on that list.

But I will vouch for them, because they've always paid me, whether its 50 dollars or 10,000. Sorry to hear that they ****** you over.

[ringemup]

scum bags.

[sideloaded]

bodog becky your post has nothing to do with the man's problem.

[soxwin1917]

Hmm....doesn't seem fair for them to have you pay back those lost bets, but in no way should you get the winnings from a bet that was 2+minutes after post.

[Dabeergod]

Good luck with this issue buddy, honestly these bastard screwed you man, and I don't see you getting these winnings. It sucks.

[Trident]

Here are the off times for that day.

Race 1 1:03
Race 2 1:30
Race 3 1:57
Race 4 2:23
Race 5 2:51
Race 6 3:20
Race 7 3:47
Race 8 4:13

What ever race you bet the bet had to be in two minutes prior to that off time to have action, sometimes the races go off early/late and Books can only go with the info they are provided which can be wrong at times.

[JoeVig]

Stick to regular sports and you won't (or rarely) have this problem.

[AribaAriba]

dayacorp, Past posting happens with horses because there are no official start times. Most books have a buffer period of time where the player may have his bet canceled if the race starts within two minutes of when placed. All books use feeds from the tacks. It's a liability for players and a flawed system but this is the way that business works. We tell players to check the rules at their book and get in well before that buffer time whether it be 1 min, 2 or 5. Players who past post often get their money in play again right after the race to confuse the account history and have the argument that the subsequent winning bets should count...usually bets that they wouldn't otherwise had the money to make. I'd have to look at your account history but we can ask Bodog that if your subsequent bets won after past post, would they have allowed you to keep the winnings from the money bet with the false winnings. If no, then they should forgive your subsequent bets. They are very logical and will give players the benefit of the doubt.

very reasonable and fair enough...

[Frogger]

I'm no fan of BoDog at all with the dual lines and super high juice, and limited options. Actually hard for me to understand why anyone would play there. I guess good marketing can overcome a lot. They also claim on SBR to have the best software and I find it one of the worst.

Outside of that, this player is clearly lying. He plainly didn't know the rule for past posting on horses, and he saw the race up and bet the winner. I would like to compare this wager amount with his average bet and its likely this wager was much higher than his normal wagering. Of course, now he claims he had a witness, which proves nothing. If BoDog says the bet was in at 2:08, I believe them on this one, and the player should get nothing. The player is just pissed because the money posted to his account and he really thought he was going to get away with it, until reality set in and he freaked out.

Going into this further, I do think it is totally insane for a book to leave an option to wager on a horserace up and available when the race is already gone. With all the hundreds of millions of dollars bet offshore, the fact that some company cannot develop a simple program to make this issue go away is beyond me.

[frankthetank]

def past posting. get your bet in plenty early and you will not have to worry about these things.

[mighty maron]

Just to clarify, bodog.com is run out of Kahnawake, Canada and is subject to civil law of Canada. The wild west days of the online gambling industry were back in the 1990's...the international companies now offering services are considered normal mainstream business by everyone in the world today and are run from cities like London, which is also where I live.

Also, bets are legal if they follow the rules of the site. Software glitches of any sort do not change the rules of the site.

Thanks,
Becky

Chuckle, Ultimate Bet Poker is run out of Kahnawake Canada....They never had to pay anything after an admitted cheating scandal...so to start off the counter point with that is not the strongest way to go

That being said, I dont think Bodog would risk their rep over such a small amount. Without real proof, one must side with the a book here. Bodog has a good rep...

sorry op

[Trident]

Chuckle, Ultimate Bet Poker is run out of Kahnawake Canada....They never had to pay anything after an admitted cheating scandal...so to start off the counter point with that is not the strongest way to go

Ultimate Bet paid back around 20 million to players and was fined about a million dollars. I am no fan of Ultimate Bet but get the facts straight.

[HoulihansTX]

Stay away from BoDog...


They offer shit odds, so they dont have to pay, and then they pull shit like this.