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    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    look for an upset similar to when butler made it to the final a few years ago ....no team is dominate compared to last year with duke and whiskey and Kentucky.....anyone can win it Texas is a good longshot if Michigan can get Levert back and get into they tourney they could make noise its anyones title this year
    in hindsight duke was obv last yr

    best team since anthony davis tucky

    pretty open this yr ...

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    Agree with flipper.

    This is nova's year.

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    it wont be nova

    in fact they prob lose to 8/9

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    it wont be nova

    in fact they prob lose to 8/9
    Johhny, no.

    Not again.

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    hey im just telling it like it is

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    According to Jerry Palm, they would play Oregon State / FSU second round.

    Dont see them losing to teams of that calibre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    it wont be nova

    in fact they prob lose to 8/9
    nahhhhh

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    Gonna have to hit the powder to ever win again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    Up to 5 now. Love Jayhawks getting 5 vs anyone.
    Kansassssssss jayhawksssss

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    im starting to think this is michigan st s year

    gonna be a 1 seed the way they been playin

    teams to win in recent years such as uconn , tucky , duke just not that good

    and vill the team that always gives msu trouble wont be in it

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    Sportsformulator has msu winning it all

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    Nice

    Although I doubt they will be playing duke in the ship

    Msu also lost to the eventual champ last 2 yrs

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    posted west virgnia buggy bear finally gets one

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    I really like oregon

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    Tough to predict, but I would go with North Carolina

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    Kentucky or UVA

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    It's wide open. It will likely come down to the matchups and the paths to the final four.

    While this is probably Izzo's weakest team in years, he is still Izzo and his lack of talent balances out because this is the weakest field of teams in quite a while.

    If OU can get it together and not rely on the long jumpers they can go far. Miami is a nice squad. I like Maryland but man do they play soft. I think Indiana could make a run, Yogi Ferrell can carry this team like Kemba and Napier did in past tournaments. Purdue is so solid but Matt Painter is a joke and they just never seem like they can close a big game.

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    It won't be Indy

    Tom cream is not cutting down any nets

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    Mich st now fav at most books to win ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    While this is probably Izzo's weakest team in years, he is still Izzo and his lack of talent balances out because this is the weakest field of teams in quite a while.
    Uhhhhhh, what?

    MSU is #1 in 3PT% (.44)
    MSU is #1 in defensive rebounds
    MSU is #1 in assists per game
    MSU is #1 on KenPom

    Denzel Valentine averaging nearly 20/8/8

    Bryn Forbes is #3 in nation in 3PT%, #5 in 3PTs made

    Deyonta Davis is a borderline NBA lottery pick

    Put the crack pipe down buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    Uhhhhhh, what?

    MSU is #1 in 3PT% (.44)
    MSU is #1 in defensive rebounds
    MSU is #1 in assists per game
    MSU is #1 on KenPom

    Denzel Valentine averaging nearly 20/8/8

    Bryn Forbes is #3 in nation in 3PT%, #5 in 3PTs made

    Deyonta Davis is a borderline NBA lottery pick

    Put the crack pipe down buddy
    IMO it is the weakest Sparty team in the Valentine era, so in the last 4 years. Would you say that is wrong?

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    valentine era ?

    he didnt really become the leader till this yr

    travis trice was the leader last yr imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    valentine era ?

    he didnt really become the leader till this yr

    travis trice was the leader last yr imo
    I know that. I'm basically saying this is the weakest MSU team in the last 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    I know that. I'm basically saying this is the weakest MSU team in the last 4 years.
    This team is so much better than last year's team

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    It's all matchups

    big10 is so bad hard to judge

    but can't discount izzo ever in March

    Forbes is the key, if you game plan against his deep ball let Valentine get his

    you have to press them, maybe 1/3/1 in full and switch to matchup zone in half just to take the shot clock down 8-10 seconds before they get set in half court where they thrive...

    they arent used to that in big10 and I don't trust the ball handling in crutch time

    For instance WVU or UVA would be terrible matchup for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post

    This team is so much better than last year's team
    Fair enough. It's all opinion. Last years team made it to the final 4. If you guys get a good draw you can definitely make it there again, I personally don't think you will. But who knows.

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    There is no value in mich st

    bottom line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    There is no value in mich st

    bottom line
    Agreed. Personally, I think they could be on upset alert in the early rounds if the matchup is right. Take away Valentine and if Forbes isn't on, where do they go?

    As far as futures go, absolute no value in Sparty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    There is no value in mich st

    bottom line
    At 5/1 currently I agree. I got them pre-season at 25/1 then again at 12/1 for small.

    I strongly think MSU or KU wins it all but I don't like either at 5/1 odds.

    I'm hoping on selection Sunday to get MSU at 8/1 or 10/1 if we're lucky. Only way that happens is if UNC wins ACC tourney, Oregon win PAC, Kentucky wins SEC, and/or MSU loses early in B1G.

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    Kansas has all the pieces

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWallofTrump View Post
    Kansas has all the pieces
    I'm serious... I can feel it inside me, I've watched all the good teams, and I'm very very confident either kansas or Michigan state wins it all this year. Have the same feeling with them that I had with the Broncos - it just felt right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    I'm serious... I can feel it inside me, I've watched all the good teams, and I'm very very confident either kansas or Michigan state wins it all this year. Have the same feeling with them that I had with the Broncos - it just felt right.
    I got Michigan State at 18-1 and Kansas at 9-1 as you stated at the beginning of the year.

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    tier 1

    Msu

    Kansas

    Tier 2

    North car

    Oklahoma

    Tier 3

    About 15 teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    Uhhhhhh, what?

    MSU is #1 in 3PT% (.44)
    MSU is #1 in defensive rebounds
    MSU is #1 in assists per game
    MSU is #1 on KenPom

    Denzel Valentine averaging nearly 20/8/8

    Bryn Forbes is #3 in nation in 3PT%, #5 in 3PTs made

    Deyonta Davis is a borderline NBA lottery pick

    Put the crack pipe down buddy
    Crack pipe is in your hand.

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