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    Thunder still -270 to win division?

    Blazers +280 and no one knows how KD is going to comeback from this injury. What am I missing here? Aldridge and Lilliard can't hold off a wounded Thunder team for the division title? Feedback.

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    Nba reg season shenanigans. Port probably regresses and okc are vets at reg season success.

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    KD will end up missing a lot less time than Westbrook did last year.

    Despite the Westbrook injury, OKC ended up with a prett good record last year.

    OKC has an emerging star at center finally. I think...

    With that said, fade OKC the first 20 games.

    Their schedule will be brutal. I think they'll probably be like 12-8.

    They'll be fine though. I'm worried about the Clippers in the West. The Spurs were on a mission last year. Not sure they'll be as focused this season and at some point age will catch up to them.

    I'm kind of interested to see the team with Westbrook being on his own without KD.

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    Lol nuggets though not portland

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Nba reg season shenanigans. Port probably regresses and okc are vets at reg season success.
    This.

    Portland won't win many more than 45-47 games this year imo. They will be in a battle down to the last week or so to make the playoffs i think.

    OKC will win 55+ as usual unless Durant misses like 25 games.

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    Denver is built for regular season look at roster boys 5 above average starters and maybe the best bench in the league

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Denver is built for regular season look at roster boys 5 above average starters and maybe the best bench in the league
    First, Denver doesn't have the best bench. The Spurs do.

    Second, if your claim to fame is your bench players, you're in trouble because your starting five isn't that great.

    Third, Denver will be lucky to even make the playoffs.


    Spurs
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    Mavericks
    Grizzlies
    Suns

    I would take all of those teams over Denver. Where do they fit in here? Maybe they battle with the Suns for 9th place?

    I hear this crap with Denver every year and then they don't do anything and if they do make the playoffs they get bounced the first round in five games.


    With that said, I think your Pelicans are a playoffs team and will show a lot of improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seto View Post
    This.

    Portland won't win many more than 45-47 games this year imo. They will be in a battle down to the last week or so to make the playoffs i think.

    OKC will win 55+ as usual unless Durant misses like 25 games.
    So Thunder are an auto 55+win team whether Durant plays 82 games or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    So Thunder are an auto 55+win team whether Durant plays 82 games or not?

    I think the Thunder win probably 55 exactly and probably end up the three seed behind the Spurs and Clippers.

    Westbrook missed more time last year than Durant will this year and they won 59 games. With that said, I think KD is probably worth about 4 more games than Russ so I think the 55 Number is about spot on.

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    Oklahoma City will not win as many games as last year

    The league is even off/parity

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    Russell Westbrook is the bestall around PG in the NBA they will be fine.

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    age will not catch up to the spurs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDofBA View Post
    The Spurs were on a mission last year. Not sure they'll be as focused this season and at some point age will catch up to them.
    I don't think age will catch up with them

    When they are no longer effective, they will no longer play

    The rest of the West consists of shallow teams who live and die by jumpers and play no D

    The Clippers are soft and prove this every year. They will begin the season blowing out teams by 30 points and then get assaulted against above average teams

    Durant and Westbrook are both an asset and liability to the team and do not mesh well together. Durant is incapable of carrying the team on his own, but goes into hiding when Westbrook decides he wants to take control. The rest of the team is offensively incapable

    The Rockets do not like to play defense, and Dwight Howard is just a distraction

    Portland? please, you can only go so far with Matthews and Batum

    Mavericks the only threat

    Even if the Big 3 of the Spurs diminish in ability, they have younger role players who are more than capable of stepping up

    The Spurs have had their age used against them as an argument for the last several years

    They consistently have better years

    They dominated last year, they should have won the year before that

    My sources tell me Duncan was quoted saying to Ginobili in a strip club;

    "not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, but 6"
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    Nets to win division +190
    Suns to win division +1000

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    Father time is undefeated. That being said the spurs don't rely that much on the vets like they used too. Leonard is the star of the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    So Thunder are an auto 55+win team whether Durant plays 82 games or not?
    You didn't read the "unless Durant misses like 25 games" part? It was like right there after the 55+. In the same damn sentence.

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    Haven't we been saying that age will catch up to the Spurs for the last 5? I've given up on the age angle until they prove otherwise. Other than Duncan and Manu, the team is relatively young. Spurs age issues are more of a mirage than anything.

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    I picked the Spurs ahead of the Thunder FYI.

    With that said, the Spurs can be beaten. They're are about 4 teams in the West that are capable if they get hot in the playoffs.

    I'm worried OKC might get the three seed which would suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seto View Post
    You didn't read the "unless Durant misses like 25 games" part? It was like right there after the 55+. In the same damn sentence.
    Do you how many games he is going to miss? Read my opening. No one knows when he is coming back or if he will be 100% after this procedure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Do you how many games he is going to miss? Read my opening. No one knows when he is coming back or if he will be 100% after this procedure.
    I don't which is why I said "unless he misses 25 games or more". And quite frankly I could've said 30...

    I doubt he'll miss that much time though. He's not expected to miss more than a month or so which is like 15 games. Now obviously it's possible he sits out more time but taking this bet just praying he'll sit out more games than he's expected to or not come back being the KD we know is just plain throwing darts in my mind.

    The only reason to take this bet is if you think Portland can match their 54 wins from last year or possibly even better that which I don't.

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    OKC will win this division with ease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    OKC will win this division with ease.
    I wouldn't sleep on Portland, especially if OKC struggles badly without durant

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    Portland will probably blow out OKC to open the season but I think they have went from underrated to overrated.

    I like their starting five but they may end up around a 6 or 7 seed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildCelticsFan View Post
    I wouldn't sleep on Portland, especially if OKC struggles badly without durant
    Not sleeping on Portland. Love the Blazers. Just would be very surprised if OKC didn't win this division.

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    I'm throwing a couple of units on the blazers. I'm using the tortoise and hare mentality here. Figuring blazers get of to a better start and the thunder won't have a 10 game winning streak during the season and KD's minutes will be monitored in a contract year coming off of surgery.

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    there is no way the Blazers beat any of the West's elite in 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spedizzo View Post
    there is no way the Blazers beat any of the West's elite in 7

    Regular season prop. Nothing to do with playoff success

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDofBA View Post
    First, Denver doesn't have the best bench. The Spurs do.

    Second, if your claim to fame is your bench players, you're in trouble because your starting five isn't that great.

    Third, Denver will will be lucky
    I would take all of those teams over Denver. Where do they fit in here? Maybe they battle with the Suns for 9th place?

    I hear this crap with Denver every year and then they don't do anything and if they do make the playoffs they get bounced the first round in five games.


    With that said, I think your Pelicans are a playoffs team and will show a lot of improvement.
    Like I was saying, Denver sucks.

    Get blown out by OKC without 4 key players.

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    Ty Lawson said they were a top 3 seed

    They won't even make the playoffs. Hell, they probably won't even be .500.

    Without their altitude shit they'd be a 30 win team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seto View Post
    Ty Lawson said they were a top 3 seed

    They won't even make the playoffs. Hell, they probably won't even be .500.

    Without their altitude shit they'd be a 30 win team.
    That's what I'm saying. Every year I hear how great their bench is. Lmao.

    So what? Their starting five blows.

    I listed 9 teams in the West I would take above them.

    No KD. No Westbrook. Jackson injured. Lamb injured. Morrow hurt.

    Get blown out. Lol

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    The Thunder may not win this division. I don't know who will, but no team will win a division without their two best players out for an extended period of time.

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    u don't know who will? Let me help you: if okc doesn't win it portland will. The other 3 teams are so bad it's not even funny.

    Thunder could and possibly should still easily win this. They will be awful in the next few weeks though yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seto View Post
    u don't know who will? Let me help you: if okc doesn't win it portland will. The other 3 teams are so bad it's not even funny.

    Thunder could and possibly should still easily win this. They will be awful in the next few weeks though yes.
    Seto, read the previous posts in this thread. No one believes the blazers will win the division

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    Thunder does look like a trap bet.

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    Rockets have no interest in defense and D12 is only a distraction? Those are some terrible takes.

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