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    KANSAS-5mike5 Memorial Race Thread

    I guess most regulars know 5mike5 has been banned. Apparently several people reported him for talking about his website, including one joker who complained because he had been banned for promoting.

    Have only got one short email from Mike so far so not sure what he thinks or how long they said it is for. I emailed SBR asking if they might change their mind for the good of our forum here but the reply didn't make it sound promising.

    I dunno what's going to happen to our weekly thread without Mike to lead it. I've never run across anyone else that could maintain such enthusiasm week after week and keep this place hopping.

    But for this week at least I will try and start a poor imitation of a 5mike5 thread for us and cross fingers SBR does have a change of heart before next week.



    Alright folks, we are of to Kansas for some Truck racing on Friday night and Cup Saturday night. Then to cap off the weekend we have the standalone Nationwide race from Iowa on Sunday.

    Track Specs:
    Superspeedway: 1.5-mile quad-oval
    Banking in Turns...variable (17-20 degrees); previous banking: 15 degrees
    Banking on Frontstretch... 10 degrees; previous banking: 10.4 degrees
    Banking on backstretch... 5.5 degrees; previous banking: 5 degrees
    Straights: Frontstretch - 2,721 feet; Backstretch - 2,207 feet
    Attendence: 81,687
    Repaved & Reconfigured: Summer 2012
    Opened: 2001

    From 2009-2013 a typical Kansas race had 18.6 lead changes, 7.8 cautions for 36.1 laps, and an average green-flag run of 26.5 laps.

    The Pole winner has won 4 times in 16 races. (both 2013 races. 2 of 3 since re-configuration)
    A top 5 starter has won 8 times in 16 races.



    Openers are up at The Greek;

    Kevin Harvick +600
    Jimmie Johnson +600
    Brad Keselowski +800
    Jeff Gordon +800
    Joey Logano +1000
    Matt Kenseth +1000
    Kyle Busch +1200
    Dale Earnhardt Jr +1200
    Kasey Kahne +1400
    Denny Hamlin +1400
    Clint Bowyer +2000
    Tony Stewart +2000
    Carl Edwards +2000
    Kyle Larson +2000
    Greg Biffle +2000
    Kurt Busch +2000
    Ryan Newman +4000
    Brian Vickers +4000
    Field +1500
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    All in on field

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    Nice write up opti

    Hopefully our leader will be back soon

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    Thanks Shaun.

    We have some 5D Openers. Fairly wide open after the joint faves.


    Sprint Cup 5-Hour Energy 400

    Kevin Harvick +600
    Jimmie Johnson +600
    Brad Keselowski +825
    Jeff Gordon +825
    Matt Kenseth +1025
    Joey Logano +1050
    Kyle Busch +1250
    Dale Earnhardt Jr +1250
    Kasey Kahne +1450
    Denny Hamlin +1600
    Clint Bowyer +2200
    Tony Stewart +2200
    Carl Edwards +2200
    Kyle Larson +2200
    Greg Biffle +2200
    Kurt Busch +2200
    Ryan Newman +4400
    Brian Vickers +4400
    Martin Truex Jr +6600
    Paul Menard +6600
    Jamie McMurray +6600
    Aric Almirola +11000
    Ricky Stenhouse Jr +11000
    Austin Dillon +11000
    Danica Patrick +22000
    AJ Allmendinger +22000
    Justin Allgaier +22000
    Marcos Ambrose +22000
    Casey Mears +22000

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    Think Kenseth is my main man this week. He has won 2 of the 3 here since reconfig plus a Nationwide race.

    Leaning Bowyer and Biffle a little.

    Like Menard as a longshot.

    Probably think about a Johnson/Harvick joint bet. or do the Mike parlay with one or both.

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    Its a damn shame that guy was banned

    I have came here and lurked all year and he's put me up over 1800 between online and our weekly race pool you come to these sites for good handicaping and advice and noone puts in more work and study on his craft than mike5.

    start a petition or something to get this guy back ill be the first to sign it

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    Hopefully we can still get mikes picks up on the thread, but above all will miss his views and those pics of the hauler with all the cash in it

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    Good writeup Opti,

    SBR is full of sh$t for banning Mike, there would not be a NASCAR section worthy of having if not for Mike's threads.

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    Maybe we should start a thread on you know where????

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    We all hope Mike comes back. Our Nascar forum is infinitely more dynamic with Mike.

    I like your read on the race Optional. Inaugural night racing at Kansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggamerife21 View Post
    Its a damn shame that guy was banned

    I have came here and lurked all year and he's put me up over 1800 between online and our weekly race pool you come to these sites for good handicaping and advice and noone puts in more work and study on his craft than mike5.

    start a petition or something to get this guy back ill be the first to sign it
    I asked someone to give me a straight answer about what could be done and they did. Would not feel right about saying thanks I understand then starting a thread demanding they change their mind. But I'll show my support if someone else makes a thread. Trouble with those threads in my experience is that they usually hurt more than help. And don't kid yourself it will be all nice and rosey. People will come out of the woodwork to attack him as well.

    The most likely way to work is to email them and ask nicely first. But he hasn't even said if he wants to get back in or plans to ask yet. Not to me at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy View Post
    Maybe we should start a thread on you know where????
    If they let him back it will be with a promise not to mention his site. Best bet right now is to tow the SBR line with that I think. ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    We all hope Mike comes back. Our Nascar forum is infinitely more dynamic with Mike.

    I like your read on the race Optional. Inaugural night racing at Kansas.
    I forgot it was a first night race. That throws a small spanner into relying too heavily on past stats I guess.





    /start 5mike impression/

    I'm so damn exitted!!!!! 3 great races this week, dayyum ive missed the turcks!!! Cant wait to see them at night here.

    Think I hear the hauler!!!!

    We are gonna make some $$$$$ here team. I can feel it. Lets keep the roll building!!!
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    Kennseth,Busch,and Hamlin are back to being throwouts this week unless i see something in practice just seems like they have 6th through 10th place cars on these type of tracks this year besides the race kyle stole they have been alright on short run but car goes away after a few laps.

    McMurry was really fast here last year so that makes me think that Larson will have a good package.

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    I will hold my statement on Kennseth because this is definitly one of his best tracks but i honestly believe with all the engine trouble they had last year there still not fully cranked

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggamerife21 View Post
    I will hold my statement on Kennseth because this is definitly one of his best tracks but i honestly believe with all the engine trouble they had last year there still not fully cranked
    I've been a doubter too bigger. And not been 100% sure what it is. Seemed like the team lost something this year thogh. Personally think they have shown they are fine last 2 races though. Not sure if they are back to as good as they could be, but not badly enough off their game to fade either imho. I guess you could be right that its mostly a 1.5 mile issue.

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    WOW. Just hearing about Mike getting banned. WTF??

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    new tire package this week. last year on the multi tread no one could pass. id say you gotta start up front....brad on joey have been steller at that so far this year. gordon has been fast but on th elong runs (and hes not passing as easy here with one groove).

    gotta get some news on the tire before we jump in
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy View Post
    Maybe we should start a thread on you know where????



    Dont see why not if he doesnt get reinstated here.

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    so on this tire package is pit strategy and taking two tires out of the equation? makes the handicapping easier if so

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    shocking

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    [









    Lol You even did the screwed up spelling! Spot on Opti!





    /start 5mike impression/

    I'm so damn exitted!!!!! 3 great races this week, dayyum ive missed the turcks!!! Cant wait to see them at night here.

    Think I hear the hauler!!!!

    We are gonna make some $$$$$ here team. I can feel it. Lets keep the roll building!!![/QUOTE]

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    I hope SBR changes its mind so we can have more deliveries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by biggamerife21 View Post
    so on this tire package is pit strategy and taking two tires out of the equation? makes the handicapping easier if so
    if its hard and not wearing...2 tires all day for everyone

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    i think the iowa nationwide race is next sunday after the all star race on saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle vinny View Post
    new tire package this week. last year on the multi tread no one could pass. id say you gotta start up front....brad on joey have been steller at that so far this year. gordon has been fast but on th elong runs (and hes not passing as easy here with one groove).

    gotta get some news on the tire before we jump in
    I think you are spot on with the tires Vinny. Only a few guys like Joey have been consistent on the multi thread compound as well. Logano actually won at Richmond with their first run on the multi tread tires. I could be wrong but I am going off memory and cannot check right now. The tire compunds is something I look at a lot with my qualifying bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHorne3 View Post
    Good writeup Opti,

    SBR is full of sh$t for banning Mike, there would not be a NASCAR section worthy of having if not for Mike's threads.
    From text I got he said they answered his email and wouldn't be allowed back.

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    Good lookin out opti...cheers

    Sucks to see such a passionate capper banned when half the forum filled with snakes, scammers & snitches
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    From text I got he said they answered his email and wouldn't be allowed back.
    If he's not allowed back this thread not gonna be the same

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    How hard would it be for him to beard back in. Don't think 55mike55 is taken.

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    Gonna start a thread in players talk everyone sign in

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    Gonna start a thread in players talk everyone sign in

    Those threads end up doing more harm than good just a bad idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle vinny View Post
    i think the iowa nationwide race is next sunday after the all star race on saturday
    well thats disappointing. Had myself looking forward to it!


    Told you I was only doing a poor imitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHorne3 View Post
    I think you are spot on with the tires Vinny. Only a few guys like Joey have been consistent on the multi thread compound as well. Logano actually won at Richmond with their first run on the multi tread tires. I could be wrong but I am going off memory and cannot check right now. The tire compunds is something I look at a lot with my qualifying bets.
    dont think its the multi tread this time. a few weeks back each team sent a car to kansas to test different compounds. not sure what they are bringing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Those threads end up doing more harm than good just a bad idea
    Think you were right Vegas

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    Early leans

    Jimmie
    Kenseth
    Kahne

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    That really sucks about 5mike5 being banned. I know he's brought a lot of people to SBR. I have several friends who began reading his threads regularly after I told them about him.

    I'm leaving for Kansas in the morning and will be there the rest of the week. It's looking like a good chance of rain on Thursday, but Friday and Saturday look promising.

    The first thing that comes to mind at Kansas is how terrible Kyle Busch has been there. Two years ago he crashed three times in one weekend and crashed again last year. He hates the place.

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