[yydouble]

I have Tiger missing cut and possibly WD due to injury.

Course is crappy. Long walk, firm, brown, no trees, lots of lucky bounces, bumpy greens, super high rough.

Rose is a sharp pick.
DJ too.
I like Spieth.

I rest my case!
WD coming bro

[jjgold]

He can't be that much of a coward to withdraw there's nothing wrong with him

[KVB]

Spieth in a good position to cash a lot of his props. It's too bad he gave one back before getting out of the day, -3 was solid. I'm actually glad he's not winning, it can be tough to lead after the first day and still win the whole thing.

I like this spot for him.

[alamo]

Will be interesting to see if they toughen the course up. Players took it apart yesterday. I say -10 wins

[yydouble]

Rained overnight a little.
They have to toughen up the setup. Too many players under par, like 24. Double digits under par for the winner would be a failure for the USGA.

My human nature lock of the day is Fowler over Woods. Tiger called the kid out at his presser saying "At least I beat Ricky"
Ricky is going to be laser focused today.

[jjgold]

Tiger lost the edge to play

He is too rich also and does not want to play weekly and get his game better

[lotterypick87]

Tiger can come back and win again if he wants to. Problem is he knows how much work it takes to get his game back to that level and it doesn't seem like he is willing to put in that amount of time. He's 40 years old with kids that are coming of age plus he has all the money in the world. Not enough motivation there imo.

[yydouble]

He is working as hard as ever. The magic is gone. The putts don't drop. The back is stiff. It's golf, it's so fickle, it's he hardest game in the world to play well. It's makes you want to quit. The harder you try, the worse it gets. He will never play good again. It's over.

[lotterypick87]

He is working as hard as ever. The magic is gone. The putts don't drop. The back is stiff. It's golf, it's so fickle, it's he hardest game in the world to play well. It's makes you want to quit. The harder you try, the worse it gets. He will never play good again. It's over.

I disagree about how hard he's working. I don't think he's putting in nearly the amount of time he once did.

[jjgold]

Tiger is embarrassing to Game and himself he needs to step away for good

[yydouble]

I disagree about how hard he's working. I don't think he's putting in nearly the amount of time he once did.

Good point. Of course not, he's 39, but he's TRYING as hard as he can.
My point is: Trying hard doesn't work in golf.
The game has left him and he will never win another major.
His deal with the devil has reached it's due date.

[jjgold]

Tiger +16

[KVB]

Spieth -5

[pavyracer]

I am taking Tiger

no wonder you're broke!

[jjgold]

Golf has totally lost it appeal there's just not the interest anymore when Tigers not a factor

[lotterypick87]

Golf has totally lost it appeal there's just not the interest anymore when Tigers not a factor

lol no.... Golf isn't losing anything. It was here long before Tiger and will be long after he's gone.

[lotterypick87]

Good point. Of course not, he's 39, but he's TRYING as hard as he can.
My point is: Trying hard doesn't work in golf.
The game has left him and he will never win another major.
His deal with the devil has reached it's due date.

That's possible. But golf isn't like other sports. He could turn it around and win this year. Not likely given what we've seen but he could figure things out tomorrow to be honest. I shot 80-74 in a tournament starting the year. Two weeks later I shot 66-68-72 and finished top 5. I figured 1 little thing out and everything clicked. Tiger easily could do that. My point is just to not completely write him off. Things can change quickly.

[KVB]

That's possible. But golf isn't like other sports. He could turn it around and win this year. Not likely given what we've seen but he could figure things out tomorrow to be honest. I shot 80-74 in a tournament starting the year. Two weeks later I shot 66-68-72 and finished top 5. I figured 1 little thing out and everything clicked. Tiger easily could do that. My point is just to not completely write him off. Things can change quickly.

Indeed, we are dealing with professionals here. Completely writing anyone off over the short or long term comes with pitfalls.

But someone made a great point in the thread above about motivation, certainly something to think about with Tiger.

Also, Tiger seems to be one of the first in a generation of young golfers that swing the shit out of the club, drive very far, and are likely causing grave damage to their bodies. It will be interesting to see what some of these other young guns, like Rory, Spieth, etc, can do when their backs say enough is enough and they are hoping surgeries will bring them back, not unlike Woods.



Edit: lol...that poster talking about motivation was lotterypick...lol

[jjgold]

Nobody will do what Tiger did for 15 years

[KVB]

Nobody will do what Tiger did for 15 years

with the exception of damaging their backs and having some kind of surgery, like Tiger, I tend to agree.

Sup Gold? Why are you in Florida anyway? That's a long way from California bro.

[yydouble]

Maybe Augusta one more time.
Never a full field event again.

[jjgold]

with the exception of damaging their backs and having some kind of surgery, like Tiger, I tend to agree.

Sup Gold? Why are you in Florida anyway? That's a long way from California bro.

cheaper living..vegas chewed me alive

Do not rule out Rory

[yydouble]

I have Tiger missing cut and possibly WD due to injury.

Course is crappy. Long walk, firm, brown, no trees, lots of lucky bounces, bumpy greens, super high rough.

Rose is a sharp pick.
DJ too.
I like Spieth.

Bear, I told you the course was crappy!
It's a piece of crap.

[nyplayer33]

Tiger spoke to big at times in his career..never ever condone the i wanna beat Jack stuff...gretzky on the other hand speaks of the older generation nhl as the best ever like gordie howe. People saying he can still win the majors?? It's been too many years since he won and he is getting much worse...he isn't getting better

[nyplayer33]

His legacy in my eyes is falling apart...he looks utterley stupid out there and time to retire

[yydouble]

lol no.... Golf isn't losing anything. It was here long before Tiger and will be long after he's gone.

I actually think Tiger's epic fall from grace is good for golf and America.

It teaches kids 3 great lessons:

No matter how good you get, you can still suck someday, so be humble and treat people with respect on the way up.
Do steroids and your body will break down.
Treat people like crap and you will be unhappy in life.

I Also see no downside:

Who really cares if pro golfers make less money? Or any pro athletes for that matter?

[jjgold]

its a good tourney but golf lacks personalities now

just quiet guys

[stevek173]

it's true

[jjgold]

It's possible Over par could win this tournament

[badgerguy]

Whats up with FOX doing the coverage? Im watching right now and the coverage is shit. What happened to CBS?

[jjgold]

cbs lost bid..fox has it for a while as far as us open

tremendous shootout tomorrow

[Booya711]

Spieth had great chances the last three holes to take the lead going into tomorrow...and choked on all three

[KVB]

Whats up with FOX doing the coverage? Im watching right now and the coverage is shit. What happened to CBS?

cbs lost bid..fox has it for a while as far as us open

tremendous shootout tomorrow

Spieth had great chances the last three holes to take the lead going into tomorrow...and choked on all three

Announcers and coverage atrocious. At least Lefty got himself a little grab of Holly Sonders:





Spieth holding back a bit today, he showed he can do it in the early holes and again in the late holes. This is his tournament to lose.

All the Spieth props in great position now.

[jjgold]

I would think Spieth is the favorite to win

[KVB]

Spieth about 2-1 sitting on top of lists I see and about -125 or so vs. Dustin Johnson for the fourth round.

Could essentially "sell back" the Spieth top US Player +500 at a rate of +115. That Dustin Johnson +115 vs. Spieth looks like a sucker bet to me.

In my opinion, Spieth and his caddy have the entire field right where they want them.

As for me, I'm pressing...get Spieth +205 to win it all. And Spieth -125 vs. Johnson, both at 5 Dimes.

Let's bring this home.