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    Joenaes' Cycling thread 2015

    Hey guys,

    I am rather new to the forum but I have been a fan of cycling all my life. Even did some races myself when i was 15-18 years old. I love the sport but never really did any bets on it. I have been a professional poker player for years now so I am definitely used to odd calculations, risk/reward scenarios, bank roll management, tilt control etc.

    The cycling season has started now and I will record my bets here.

    Paris-Nice started today and I will start my betting tomorrow on the non-TT race.

    I will not post any units, since it is very confusing with cycling. There will be a lot of +900 and -1250 plays etc so it gets a little confusing. I will just post the amounts in $ since I think that will be easier for people to follow. I will start with a bankroll of $3,000. Sometimes there will be a range for the odds since the market is very small, even my bets move the lines and I get worse odds if I book more.

    Picks for race 1:

    - Greipel vs the field: Field @ -460. $345 to win $75

    Compared to other years his start of the season has not been so smooth yet. Yes, he does have one win already, but he has plenty of bad performances too. Also today in the short time trail he did VERY poorly at a 126th place. I know he is not a TT professional but usually he ends up way higher in these things. This all leads me to believe that he is not yet ready to when a race of this level with his current form.

    - Degenkolb vs the field: Degenkolb @ 613 $21.2 to win $130

    Compared to Greipel he actually is in much better shape. He won one stage already as well (with a little bit of a hilly finish against valverde, pozatto and other big names). Two second places and he did VERY well in the TT today (6th place). It is still going to be tough to win against Kristoff, but if one man is going to do it, it is him.

    - Kristoff vs Greipel: Kristoff @ -115/-119 $233 to win $200

    Incredible odds I feel like. Kristoff already has 4 wins this year, a second place (in a very tough race) and a third place. Compared to the one from Greipel that is not in the best form. I would almost call this a lock.

    -Arnaud Demare vs Nacer Bouhanni: Bouhanni @ -150/-153 $195.9 to win $130

    Both joined the tour of Oman and tour of Qatar this year. Two classical sprinting competitions. Bouhanni came out first 6 times and Demare 3 times. Bouhanni is also quite a bit more mature and has bigger victories than Demare in general. I think these odds should probably be -200 or even higher so looks like very good value to me.

    - McLay vs Cimolai: Cimolai @+105/+101 $300 to win $310.38

    Had to laugh at this bet. Cimolai joined the Dubai Tour (Cavendish rode there too) and he was top 15, 3 times in a sprint which is reasonably good. McLay on the other hand joined Tour San Luis and was >100 in almost every race. He also did not finish his latest 2 races. Also in the TT he was one of the 6 last guys to finish. Putting him as a favorite is rather laughable, so I am taking a bigger bet here.

    - Nizzolo vs Coquard: Coquard @ +127/125 $118.74 to win $150

    They both joined Star of Besseges last week. Coquard was ahead 3 times and Nizzolo once. Coquard even won one stage, where Nizzolo was second. So both are pretty equal, but I think Coquard is slightly better at the moment, so i happily take his odds as the dog.

    - Jose Joaquin Rojas vs Hutarovich: Rojas @-101/103 $152.5 to win $150

    Rojas went to both Tour of Qatar as the Tour of Oman and was almost always in the first 40 of the race, he even won one stage against Boonen, Demare, Sagan, Kristoff which is obviously a huge deal. Hutarovich preparation was in Gabon. Yes, he did win 3 stages there but there was of course zero competition. He also finished second to last in the TT today and I think he just not quite there yet. Making him a favorite over Rojas seems to be a big mistake to me.

    Alright, best of luck to all!

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    Really like Van Garderen to win this outright,he is in great form and has a decent record in the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher1991 View Post
    Really like Van Garderen to win this outright,he is in great form and has a decent record in the race.
    Yea, he definitely has a good chance, but so have many others. It is still a long way to go, we will see what the next days bring.
    Will update in a few minutes, very nice start for me.

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    Actually I thought I won one more bet, but actually lost it. Still a good start nonetheless.

    - Greipel vs the field: Field @ -460. $345 to win $75 WON
    - Kristoff vs Greipel: Kristoff @ -115/-119 $233 to win $200 WON

    This was rather easy as expected. Greipels current form is just not as good as the other sprinters (became 19th). Kristoff has shown again that he is the sprinter to beat this time of the year.

    - Degenkolb vs the field: Degenkolb @ 613 $21.2 to win $130LOSS

    Even though he just finished ahead of Greipel, he actually participated in it but probably went ahead too early (most likely because his team did not have enough fresh riders left for him). But he also disappointed a little bit. Still confident about the bet, the odds were good.

    -Arnaud Demare (13th) vs Nacer Bouhanni (2nd): Bouhanni @ -150/-153 $195.9 to win $130 WIN

    Bouhanni showed that he is just a level higher than Demare.

    - Nizzolo (5th) vs Coquard (3th): Coquard @ +127/125 $118.74 to win $150 WON

    Yesterday I said that Coquard has a slight edge over him, so good bet given the odds. I think today shows that they are both good sprinters.

    - Jose Joaquin Rojas (6th) vs Hutarovich (20th): Rojas @-101/103 $152.5 to win $150 WON

    Underestimated Hutarovich a little bit but still very happy with the bet, Rojas is definitely a lot better.

    -McLay (132th) vs Cimolai (149th): Cimolai @+105/+101 $300 to win $310.38 LOSS

    Lost the biggest bet of the day. Seems like Cimolai did not try to stay in the front, which he usually does. Most of the times this should be a winning bet, but well, happens.

    Started: $3,000

    After Day 1: $3,383.80

    Will post picks for tomorrow as soon as the lines open. Forgot to mention in my openings post but I book on Pinny. Seems to be the only one with decent action. If there is any other site, please do let me know!
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    Ok, lines opened a while ago for tomorrow. Unfortunately lines seem a lot tighter than yesterday but i think there are still some nice value spots.

    This is what i came up with:

    Degenkolb > Greipel
    +121
    $184.54
    $220.53
    Degenkolb > Field
    +871
    $50
    $435.5
    Kristoff > Bouhanni
    -222
    $404.84
    $178.48
    Gil > Bozic
    -198
    $372.77
    $184.54
    Thomas > Kwiatkowski
    Bonifazio > Hofland
    +139
    +124
    $142.27
    $142.27
    $195.26
    $181.41

    1./2. Again I am fading the Greipel train. He is a top sprinter but i think his form is not good enough to compete for first place. Degenkolb on the other hand is. According to his Twitter, he said he misread the 300m sign, that could be a valid explanation to why he went ahead so early. Kristoff probably still would have won, but I think he is still better than Greipel atm, so Ill take him against these odds.

    His odds also got worse compared to the field today, which I wrong I think. If he started his sprint 100m later, he probably would have been in the top 5. +871 seem to be good odds, I'll take it.

    3. Even though Bouhanni was strong and finished second, I still think he is not on par with winner Kristoff. Bouhanni hasn't won a race yet this year, compared to the 6 of Kristoff. He is good but will need a lot of luck to beat him, I think -222 is still a level too low and should be more like -350.

    4. What can I say about this. Gil has been consistently in the top 10 of major sprints while Bozic, you know, has not. Not saying Bozic is bad but much more often than not, Gil will be ahead of him in the sprint.

    5./6.Both of these are kind of coin-flips I think, so I am taking the dogs here.

    Best of luck to all!

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    Tough luck today.

    Greipel managed to win his first note-worthy race of the year.
    Degenkolb was 3th. Both him and Kristoff had a very bad sprint preparation that made them waste a lot of energy.

    Still happy with the odds of those 3 bets, I think they were good calls, just unfortunate.

    Won the Gil one, and lost both of the my called coinflips. Bonifazio again was just 2 places behind Hofland. I think they are really equal.

    Balance after day 2: $2,786.69

    Tomorrow probably the last race for the sprinters. Looking forward to the odds given.

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    Not too many bets for tomorrow, but Pinny also started some Tirreno-Adriatico overall bets. I will post those too.

    Paris-Nice:

    - Bouhanni > Demare: +109/+104 $184.26 to win $196.24

    As I said 2 days ago, I think Bouhanni is still a level higher than Demare. Demare was second today thats why his odds shifted from being a sizeable dog to a favorite. However not that much has changed i feel like compared to 2 days ago, so I happily take Bouhanni again.

    - Tomorrow's race is 90% of the time going to be won by won by either Kristoff, Greipel or Degenkolb.
    I took a small bet on everyone and no matter who wins of the three, we will make a profit.

    greipel > field 501 92.13 461.57
    degenkolb > field 404 92 371.68
    kristoff > field 351 92 322.92

    Tirreno-Adriatico Overall:

    uran > nibali -180 497.33 263.63
    Field > Contador 144 142.13 213.17
    Mollema > Niemiec -134 123.45 92.13
    Pinot > Van den Broeck -138 127.14 92.13
    Westra > Kiryienka -102 188.97 180.92
    formolo > meintjes 121 184.13 218.2
    Rolland > Ten Dam -141 266.25 184.26
    Kreuziger > Rodriguez -190 300 154.71
    Quintana > Field 810 92.13 746.25

    1. Uran was 7th in a rather tough race last weekend. He is also in full preparation mode for the Giro d'Italia. I think hes one of the top 3 guys to win this race. Nibali on the other hand is phenomenal rider, but he is preparing for the Tour de France, which is still a long way off. I don't think he will be aiming for a top 5 or either top 10 position here.

    2. Contador is obviously the big favorite to win this race, but putting him at -150 odds seems a little steep to me. Riders like Uran and Quintana will definitely make his life tough. That combined with possible injuries/crashes/bad days etc I think it is nice bet for the odds we get. I would have probably taken Contadors side when his odds were close to -100/110 or so instead of -150ish.

    3. Mollema just a level stronger than Niemiec I believe and Niemiec is also not getting younger.

    4. Pinot, same as above, just a little stronger I feel like. Van den Broeck is also a pretty unpredictable rider.

    5. Westra and Kiryienka are both a bit in the same spot. Great, experienced riders that do not have have to help their leader this race. Westra's results have just been a bit more convincing as of late. So hes the favorite here.

    6. Both are very young, talented riders that are pretty equally matched i think. Meintjes probably has a little bit more experience, but i feel like formolo is even more talented. Again, kind of a coinflip i would say, so I take the dog.

    7. Ten Dam has very little preparation going in this race, compared to Rolland. Rolland is the team leader, which Ten Dam is not. Ten Dam also already over 34 years old.

    8. Kreuziger, third of last year, has already shown excellent form this year. Rodriguez on the other hand has nothing yet to show for this year and his form is a question mark. Never count him out of course, but he will have to confirm the uncertainties first.

    9. Second in the overall standing last year and if there is one person to beat Contador in this race, it will be him. I think these odds are great. He is also still young (25), so he will definitely be even stronger this year.

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    Paris-Nice:

    The unlikely event has happened. There was a different winner than the three I projected. Maybe I did misjudge it a little bit, especially Greipel was going to have a rough time since the stage was a little rough in the beginning and he didnt take it so well with his current form.

    Won the Bouhanni bet though.

    Overall after day 3:$2,706.8

    -Small update on Tirreno:

    Head-to-head results I am virtually 5-2 at the moment, excluding the 2 plays against the field (since these plays dont make sense to compare now). But of course there is still a lot that can happen and there is a long way to go.

    Tomorrow the first non-sprint stage in Paris-Nice, so I am excited to see the bets.

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    Plays for Paris-Nice tomorrow:

    porte > kwiatkowski -288 267.32 92.82
    valls > kiserlovski -150 139.23 92.82
    thomas > luis leon sanchez -148 137.37 92.82
    machado > barguil -120 111.38 92.82
    van garderen > talansky -150 85.26 56.84
    porte > Field 298 80 238.4

    Sorry, a little busy today, no time to write down my thoughts, but I'll try to get a longer post again tomorrow. Although I am on a 3-day trip at the moment.

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    Just noticed Pinny released some bets for the first flat stage in Tireno too, here are my picks:

    field > cavendish -134 253.4 185.64
    viviani > field 336 92.82 311.88
    pelucchi>field 1657 30 497.1
    martinez > vanegas -106 200.49 185.64
    porsev > debusschere -118 222.69 184.82
    sagan > ruffoni -200 375.36 184
    navardauskas > cort -120 110.4 92

    Still busy, but I can say that Cavendish was sick for the past days and he is probably still recovering. Of course you can never count him out since he is the worlds best sprinter, but no way he gets these odds after being ill.

    BOL to all!

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    Paris-Nice stage just finished and went perfect for me.

    Won all 6 bets, including the stage winner. Hopefully Tireno will be at least decent!

    Balance after Day 3: $3,419.73

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    Bad luck in the Tireno. A big crash in the last km took out some of my riders, but well this happens from time to time.

    Balance: $2,991.19

    Picks for tomorrow Tireno:

    field > sagan -170 329.21 188.12
    stybar > field 644 94.06 605.75
    pozzato > lutsenko 101 94.06 95

    Still thinking about the Paris Nice ones. Will be busy till saturday, more detailed reports after that.
    Short note about this: Sagan is good, very good, but there are still a lot of other riders out there that want to win tomorrow. Stybar, Van Avermaet, Colt.

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    Not too much time to evaluate all the bets, quickly scanned and these 2 seemed very profitable:

    degenkolb 798 60 478.8
    gilbert 844 60 506.4

    Both riders are definitely up there with Matthews and in great form.

    Alright, lets get it today!

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    Just got back from 3 days of Brussels. Hardly managed to follow the games.

    Updated total: $3,060.25

    Nothing really special happened. I didn't make any bets yesterday, nor will i make some now.
    I was not able to watch the games, so I don't think i have a good feel with the riders for next stages.

    I do still have my 9 open bets for Tirreno. I am 7-2 for that virtually, but we will have a better look on that after tomorrow, since that will be a very important stage.

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    Actually ended up making one bet after all. Just read some reviews, results etc. and then looked at the bets.

    This bets looks very +ev to me:

    field > rodriguez -850 1608.03 189.18

    I know it seems like a high risk, low reward scenario but Pinny put him as second favorite to win the stage.
    Personally I think there are 10 riders out there that have a higher chance of winning then him. He only won one race last year and this is his first race for the year. He was 3th today, but tomorrow it is going to be a much harder day. Everyone will be very motivated to win that one since the fight for the GC is still on for a lot of the riders. No way that Rodriguez has a 12%+ chance of winning the stage.

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    Great stage for us.

    Won the bet from yesterday and doing really great for the GC.
    Quintana managed to win the stage and has a 85% chance of winning the whole thing now I think. Only the TT left really for people to beat him.

    Just as a reminder what our bets were:

    uran > nibali -180 497.33 263.63
    Field > Contador 144 142.13 213.17
    Mollema > Niemiec -134 123.45 92.13
    Pinot > Van den Broeck -138 127.14 92.13
    Westra > Kiryienka -102 188.97 180.92
    formolo > meintjes 121 184.13 218.2
    Rolland > Ten Dam -141 266.25 184.26
    Kreuziger > Rodriguez -190 300 154.71
    Quintana > Field 810 92.13 746.25

    Atm I am 6-3 for those. With Quintana > field being the most important one of course.

    Balance: $3,249.43

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    Bets for tomorrow:

    debusschere > bennett 105 187.3 200.35
    pinot > Yates -106 101.02 95.3
    sagan > porsev -140 133.42 95.3
    cavendish > modolo -330 314.49 95.3


    1. I think Debusschere overall is a tiny bit better than Bennett, but he is also in great form. He did very well in the opening weekend and he of course won a race earlier already. I think he should be a -120 favorite here or so.

    2. Both are in the same position (high in GC and want to finish early in the group), however Pinot is much more cautious of this than Yates.

    3. Sagan clear favorite here.

    4. Same as 3. Cavendish is the heavy favorite for this stage and Modolo hasn't really been able to do anything lately.

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    Won the first 3, but lost the last one. Both of them were not in the leading peleton so it basically became a flip for me since none of them cared anymore.

    Balance: $3,325.89

    Tomorrow the final stage, looking forward to that!

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    Tirreno-Adriatico just finished and really happy with the results.

    Quintana, as expected, managed to keep his lead to win the GC.
    Westra and Rolland unfortunately stepped out of the race in the last few days, even though they were ahead the other rider we betted on.
    I am not entirely sure what happened since I did not see those 2 stages but overall a very good race.
    Won 7 out of the 9 bets for the general classification, with most importantly the +810 win from Quintana.

    So very happy with the start of the season and looking forward to Milan-San Remo now this weekend. Hopefully there are some nice bets.

    Balance: $4,650.89

    Most people like to watch it in units and wins/losses but I think thats a little awkward for cycling but Ill put it down anyways (one unit would be $93.5 since most bets are between 92-95 (this is the amount I can wager on pinny before the lines change)).

    28-21: +17.65u

    See you this weekend, cheers.

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    Milan - San Remo tomorrow!

    Took a look at the lines at Pinny and this is what I came up with:


    kristoff > field 470 143.25 661.76
    cavendish > field 654 143.25 937.84
    nibali > scarponi -128 224.02 171.38
    swift > haussler -139 265.75 186.5
    cavendish > greipel -209 894.89 463.55
    kwiatkowski > geraint thomas -149 566.02 372.99
    field > sagan -652 600 92.02
    matthews > ciolek -150 546.43 372.98
    impey > battaglin -125 200 160
    gatto > bole -123 200 162.5

    1./2./7. These are my 2 favorites for the race. Everyone is always talking about Sagan as a favorite. Of course he has a chance and he is in good shape right now. Still these other 2 are faster than him and in great form too. If both of them are not in front of the race, he has a shot, but even then he will have to fight up against 5-10 more fast guys like Matthews for example.

    3./4. Nibali and Swift just has a much better track record in this race than their opponent.

    5. Greipel has never really done well in Milan-San Remo over the past years. The Poggio is generally a little too hard for him and his not that great in the descent either. If nothing happens to Cavendish, this should be a rather easy bet.

    6. Kwiatkowski is in great form and has mentioned he is eyeing this race. He is terrific in a descent. I think he's going to be in the top 10 possible while this is not really a race Thomas will be good at.

    7. I like Matthews more in this kind of race and Ciolek just hasn't really done much this year, compared to Matthews who took the green jersey in Paris-Nice and won a stage.

    8. Impey more mature and overal a stronger rider. Also been doing pretty in past Milan - San Remo's.

    9. Kind of similar than 8. and Italians always take this race more serious so I expect him to be well ahead of Bole.

    Let's this!

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    All previous races I went on my mate Degenkolb and this time the bookie did not list him, so couldnt take him.
    Unfortunately he did win , Kristoff second so was close for me.

    Had some luck and some bad luck. Lucky that Cavendish managed to end one spot before Greipel on a meaningless 46th place.
    Unlucky that Kwiatkowski was the victim of a crash in the end. He would have for sure ended before Thomas who was working for his leader Swift. Lost about a buck in the end .

    Balance: $4,649.40

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    Will u be posting any picks for today joenes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinky99 View Post
    Will u be posting any picks for today joenes?
    Sorry mate, there is no race that Pinny is following atm so. I hope they will have some action on 'Dwars door Vlaanderen' this wednesday, but I actually doubt it.

    They probably should have the E3 this weekend. But I really can not say. I will bet every race however that is available on Pinny. I think the lines are usually quite far off.

    Just check in here on Wednesday and/or Friday is your best bet

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    Thanks mate. Will do!

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    Joenaes nice thread you got here.

    Did you consider to look over other betting sites for cycling bets?

    I'm user on bet365 and they have Volta a Catalunya this week.

    Keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poirot86 View Post
    Joenaes nice thread you got here.

    Did you consider to look over other betting sites for cycling bets?

    I'm user on bet365 and they have Volta a Catalunya this week.

    Keep up the good work!
    Hmm, I have tried to look for a bit but since I live in Belgium my options for betting sites are limited.
    Bet365 for example is not allowed .

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    Urgh, saw the lines too late. Extremely tired now to cap but picked out the 2 I liked most:

    contador > froome 92.08 92.08
    daniel martin > Tiralongo 188.76 92.08

    Froome didn't seems to be too good today. He was hanging at the back of the pack during the climb which is not his habit.
    The climb tomorrow is not that tough but might be just tough enough for the GC riders to break away.
    I think contador has a better chance of doing that then Froome, since he did not show much strength today.
    Contador is also riding the Giro, while Froome will be aiming for the Tour, there should be a clear difference in form here.


    Daniel Martin won here 2 years and while his form might not be the best. He is going to be motivated for sure (he lives in the area) and his form is usually picking up around this time. Tiralongo on the other hand might have to work for his leader Aru and has lost a lot of his strength now over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joenaes View Post
    Urgh, saw the lines too late. Extremely tired now to cap but picked out the 2 I liked most:

    contador > froome 92.08 92.08
    daniel martin > Tiralongo 188.76 92.08

    Froome didn't seems to be too good today. He was hanging at the back of the pack during the climb which is not his habit.
    The climb tomorrow is not that tough but might be just tough enough for the GC riders to break away.
    I think contador has a better chance of doing that then Froome, since he did not show much strength today.
    Contador is also riding the Giro, while Froome will be aiming for the Tour, there should be a clear difference in form here.


    Daniel Martin won here 2 years and while his form might not be the best. He is going to be motivated for sure (he lives in the area) and his form is usually picking up around this time. Tiralongo on the other hand might have to work for his leader Aru and has lost a lot of his strength now over the years.
    both picks won ! thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lelicek View Post
    both picks won ! thanks !


    Froome just not good enough on the climb as expected. Great race by Martin too, home advantage

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    I played Contador today. Thank you.

    I really looking forward to your future analysis.


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    Bets for stage 4 tomorrow:

    Talansky > Froome -174 318.14 182.84
    Valverde > Field -230 345 150
    contador > Field -296 541.21 182.84
    Valls > Bardet -153 229.5 150
    Van den Broeck > Rolland -188 343.74 182.84
    Diego Rosa > Niemiec -155 283.4 182.84

    I just noticed that I am only taking favorites. In most forms of betting that usually not the best thing to do. I think however that in these mountain stages the stronger ones will always prevail and the luck factor is substantially lower. So if you have an edge on someone, you are very likely to be ahead of them.

    1. Same analysis as yesterday. Froome is not in top shape right now and Talansky managed to stay in the leading group today. The climb of tomorrow is harder so I expect the same scenario. Talansky is also ranked 10th in the GC and he is definitely not planning on giving that away.

    2./3. Pinny ranked both of them as heavy favorite. While I do agree, there are a lot of riders that have a chance at this stage since the climb is not extremely hard. It is very long indeed (21km) but the average gradient is rather low. So it will be hard to arrive on your own. If one man can do it, it is probably Porte. I am most confident on the two in the Contador bet. I don't see him escaping on the climb and I don't see him winning the sprint, would probably play that bet up till -400. Valverde however is faster and he definitely has a decent chance at the stage victory. Does that justify a +230 odds for him? Probably not, should be lower. Riders like Uran, Porte, Aru, Van den Broeck all have a good chance too.

    4. Valls looked very strong today in the chasing group. He lost some time, but I see him wanting to go for some revenge.

    5. VdB looked very strong today, he will be able to play his own cards tomorrow and they should be a lot better than Rolland. Rolland seemed to have difficulties today and he will be under a lot of pressure tomorrow to maintain his leader position. I think it is more likely for him to break than make it. And even then VdB still has a good chance of ending before him.

    6. Another rider that looked very strong today. He did a lot of work for Aru, but most likely he will be able to play his own cards tomorrow too. I see him ending very close to the top tier riders.

    Alright best of luck to all

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    Hope some of you managed to bet some too.

    6/6 sweep

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    Tomorrow stage is going to be one for the breakaways or the sprinters.

    These are the bets I liked:

    coquard > mezgec 116 182.68 211.91
    coquard > field 894 100 894
    field > mezgec -800 800 100


    Mezgec was the winner of last year in this stage. However I think people are overvaluing him for tomorrow stage now.
    Literally almost anyone can win since there aren't really any teams that will try and keep the pack together to go for a sprint.
    And even if we do get a sprint, he is not one of the fastest so. Coquard is definitely better in the sprint than him, so i gladly take him in the head-to-head and also take him for the +894. Good odds, worth a try.

    -800 seems like a high risk, low reward bet but the real odds probably aren't even below -2000.

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    Darn i missed the sweep! good luck today!

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    It wasn't a surprise that the GC riders went ahead and made a very tough race. It was their last chance at having a shot to win time against the number 1. Porte managed to take over the leader jersey and will most likely win the whole race.

    In hindsight I might have overestimated the fact that there was a decent chance it would be come a sprint. Personally i was thinking around 40/60 yes/no yesterday, which would still give me good odds for the Coquard bet. But maybe those chances should have been lower since a lot of riders really still wanted a shot at that jersey.

    The field > mezgec bet on the other hand was probably an even better one.
    Coquard > mezgec one is still ok too. If it is not a sprint, it is about a 50/50 and when it does get to a sprint i see coquard winning more often than not. So +116 odds are very good for this analysis.

    Luckily he managed to win the head-to-head today.

    A lot of analysis after the race but it can be interesting too to see if our pre-game analysis were correct.

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