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    Max Scherzer to the Washington Nationals

    Nats have a very scary rotation!


    CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Nationals and free agent right-hander Max Scherzer have agreed to a seven-year contract.

    FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal hears that the deal will be worth more than $180 million. The contract will run through his age-36 season in 2021. The Nationals' rotation was already plenty scary, but the addition of Scherzer makes Tanner Roark (who had a 2.85 ERA and 15 wins last year) the team's sixth starter. Not bad. Not bad at all. Of course, that might not last long, as the Nationals are now expected to move Jordan Zimmermann or another starting pitcher.

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    little late to the party LT

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Nats have a very scary rotation!


    CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Nationals and free agent right-hander Max Scherzer have agreed to a seven-year contract.

    FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal hears that the deal will be worth more than $180 million. The contract will run through his age-36 season in 2021. The Nationals' rotation was already plenty scary, but the addition of Scherzer makes Tanner Roark (who had a 2.85 ERA and 15 wins last year) the team's sixth starter. Not bad. Not bad at all. Of course, that might not last long, as the Nationals are now expected to move Jordan Zimmermann or another starting pitcher.
    Now he gets to show us what a great hitter he can be a s well as a great pitcher.

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    Extremely rare big contracts ever are worth it let's see if this is another flop

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    That's a stacked pitching staff. Not sure why it's so important to move Zimmerman or even Strasburg.

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    stacked staff - doesnt mean WS title though - also hate these long contracts.

    You'd have trouble naming 1 that has worked out.

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    MOds please merge this thread with the other thread created before this one

    LT doesn't always have to win

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    $210M? Wow. Solid pitcher, but the fans better hope they don't get money cautious a few years out. This could hamstring the franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlb View Post

    You'd have trouble naming 1 that has worked out.
    Mike Mussina.

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    Now that Scherzer got paid so much he will probably be terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MexicanStallion View Post
    That's a stacked pitching staff. Not sure why it's so important to move Zimmerman or even Strasburg.
    its not.

    Chances are high that atleast one of these guys goes down with Tommy john surgery so its good to have depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlb View Post
    stacked staff - doesnt mean WS title though - also hate these long contracts.

    You'd have trouble naming 1 that has worked out.
    Clayton Kershaw

    Felix Hernandez

    Roger Clemens

    Cole Hamels

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    Wow this really takes them over the top. Lets hope he doesnt have a bad year.

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    Good pitcher, but paid too much.

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    way to much money, but Nats look good on paper

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    It will be worth it if they win 1 world series

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    Still doesn't punch their ticket to the World Series, the bullpen needs some attention, tons of miles on Soriano's arm, he's like 36 years old, he's not an elite closer, he's not horseshit, little better than average closer, he did fine filling in for Mo that one season, year before that he sucked ass for the Yankees.
    Storen is OK as 8th inning guy, had a good season last year, sucked ass big time in 2013, he doesn't have the right stuff to close, but like I said he's OK in the 8th inning, Storen to Soriano ain't Davis to Holland thouigh.
    I think the Nats figured out how to use Tyler Clippard, Yanks had him originally, they got frustrated with him, but I remember he had a real live arm, but he was just a kid, he was like 21, took him a couple of years to figure it out, now he appears in 70 games plus a year, K artist, but he's more a specialist than an innings eater.

    Clippard/Storen/Soriano is not an elite bullpen, I'll give you a little better than average, but if the Nats are going to baby Stras with 6 or 7 innings per start, they are going to need innings eaters in the pen, Max can go the distance, but that's it, Gio doesn't, when was the last time Fister went deep into a game (besides that 9 inning shutout against Miami - that was a gem by the way he pitched) Fister is a 6 or 7 inning starter.

    Nats need some bullpen help, and they also have to stay healthy, they had some key injuries last season.

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    nice

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    2015 nationals zips projections - pitchers

    NAME T AGE G GS IP K BB HR H R ER
    Jordan Zimmermann R 29 31 31 193.3 159 34 16 181 71 66
    Stephen Strasburg R 26 31 31 193.3 217 47 19 165 67 63
    Tanner Roark R 28 28 28 182.3 121 41 16 176 75 70
    Gio Gonzalez L 29 29 29 170.3 171 67 13 145 66 62
    Doug Fister R 31 26 26 165.3 117 31 15 161 64 60
    Taylor Hill R 26 27 24 143.3 73 31 19 161 78 73
    A.J. Cole R 23 25 25 141.3 120 36 19 139 64 60
    Lucas Giolito R 20 26 26 134.3 126 45 17 121 60 56
    Blake Treinen R 27 26 20 120 78 30 10 124 55 51
    Austin Voth R 23 25 25 119 105 47 16 115 60 56
    Joe Ross R 22 23 22 118 72 40 13 126 64 60
    Paolo Espino R 28 25 18 118 86 36 16 123 64 60
    Bruce Billings R 29 24 20 112.7 68 45 17 124 72 67
    Mitch Lively R 29 33 16 108.7 79 51 12 110 59 55
    Ryan Tatusko R 30 26 18 108 74 70 12 111 65 61
    Zach Kroenke L 31 25 17 102 45 44 14 118 66 62
    Taylor Jordan R 26 18 17 95.3 60 25 9 101 46 43
    John Simms R 23 21 14 94.7 66 28 9 96 45 42
    Danny Rosenbaum L 27 16 16 87.3 45 34 8 95 47 44
    Paul Demny R 25 26 13 85.7 65 41 10 86 46 43
    Felipe Rivero L 23 20 19 83.3 52 41 10 89 49 46
    Jake Johansen R 24 23 16 82.7 59 50 9 85 49 46
    Craig Stammen R 31 50 0 74.7 66 22 6 70 30 28
    Matt Grace L 26 52 0 72.3 48 26 5 72 32 30
    Ross Ohlendorf R 32 17 12 71 49 28 8 74 39 36
    Tyler Clippard R 30 71 0 66 75 23 6 50 21 20
    Neil Holland R 26 44 0 65 48 21 6 64 30 28
    Tyler Herron R 28 47 0 64.7 52 32 5 62 31 29
    Eric Fornataro R 27 50 0 62.3 34 24 5 65 31 29
    Matt Purke L 24 14 14 61 39 27 8 66 36 34
    Daniel Stange R 29 48 0 59.7 45 30 5 59 31 29
    Rafael Soriano R 35 60 0 58 52 18 5 52 22 21
    Jerry Blevins L 31 62 0 56.7 55 20 5 48 22 21
    Drew Storen R 27 65 0 56.7 50 14 5 52 21 20
    Sam Runion R 26 35 0 55.3 36 18 6 57 28 26
    Ryan Mattheus R 31 49 0 54.3 36 17 6 56 28 26
    Manny Delcarmen R 33 42 0 52.3 39 29 4 52 28 26
    Aaron Barrett R 27 55 0 51.3 55 18 3 43 18 17
    Erik Davis R 28 41 0 51.3 41 18 5 51 25 23
    Xavier Cedeno L 28 53 0 48.7 52 19 4 42 19 18
    Bryan Harper L 25 34 0 47 33 29 5 48 27 25
    Rafael Martin R 31 31 0 41.7 39 17 4 38 18 17
    Sammy Solis L 26 10 10 40 25 13 3 41 19 18
    Zach Jackson L 32 31 0 39 24 12 3 40 19 18
    Chris Manno L 26 31 0 38.7 30 22 5 40 24 22
    Tyler Robertson L 27 39 0 36 29 17 4 36 19 18
    Matt Thornton L 38 54 0 34.7 23 9 2 34 14 13
    Christian Garcia R 29 31 0 34.3 34 14 2 30 13 12
    Mike Gonzalez L 37 38 0 31 30 13 3 29 14 13

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    They paid way too much, but good for him!

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    Man , the nats are loaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by MexicanStallion View Post
    That's a stacked pitching staff. Not sure why it's so important to move Zimmerman or even Strasburg.
    Zimmerman going into the last year of his contract is why they might move him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. leisure View Post
    Man , the nats are loaded
    yeah this might be the best starting pitching rotation in the history of baseball if they all stay healthy and they all play to full potential.

    Gio Gonzalez is a great #5 pitcher

    He would be the ace if he played for the Rockies or Twins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross View Post
    They paid way too much, but good for him!
    if Alex Rodriguez makes 25.2 million a year then i would say this guy is not over paid relatively speaking.

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    baseball is so backwards. guys play their best years at one team for x amount. then play their worst years at another team for like 5 times as much.

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    Scherzer blows his arm out this year.... watch.

    Mike Ilitch had the money to pay him... Dombrowski said no.

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    Nats are crazy

    Scherzer a risky signing, plus they are already loaded at SP

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSpoon View Post
    Zimmerman going into the last year of his contract is why they might move him.
    Thanks for the reply. That makes more sense. They probably can't afford resigning him now.

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    ive found out that Bryce Harper was the only prime time baller on that club last season. Who knew

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    Quote Originally Posted by texhooper View Post
    baseball is so backwards. guys play their best years at one team for x amount. then play their worst years at another team for like 5 times as much.
    Yep

    it's like this with basically every good player

    underpaid first 6 years or so

    overpaid rest of career, often drastically

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    Yep

    it's like this with basically every good player

    underpaid first 6 years or so

    overpaid rest of career, often drastically
    especially Kobe Bryant.

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    This is becoming the age of the mega starting pitcher. There are only few elite kind of like QB in NFL

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    Mad Max penciled in as the #3 starter according to the Nationals depth chart.

    My guess is he will end up being the staff ace.

    I can see it now NLCS game 7 Kerhsaw vs Scherezer

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