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    Pirates Trade Grilli to Angels for Frieri

    An exchange of closers.

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    Good move for the angels

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    epic. trash for trash. maybe change of scenery will do both some good. melancon is the better closer anyway.

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    Interesting trade. Grilli is washed up, and I doubt his numbers get better in the tough AL West.

    Not sure what LAA is thinking here, especially given how well they've played lately.

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    Mike Scioscia wouldn't stop using Frieri during high leverage situations, so the general manager, Jerry DiPoto traded him.

    The exact same scenario happened last week, when the Angels released Raul Ibanez.

    Basically, Mike Scioscia is the worst manager in baseball, and the only way to get him to quit using awful players in the wrong situations is to trade or release them.
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    angels just won the west.


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    frieri is garbage. fukker cost me several unders this year!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Basically, Mike Scioscia is the worst manager in baseball, and the only way to get him to quit using awful players in the wrong situations is to trade or release them.
    Agree. Only Scioscia could take a roster like that -- even with the bullpen being as bad as it is -- and post the kind of record they have the past few years. He's the worst. Right up there with Kirk Gibson.

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    Grilli failed after being demoted to mop up

    37 year old flash in the pan

    I read some book reviews of his autobiography, apparently the guy is a pompous deluded asshole, prob a clubhouse cancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    angels just won the west.

    You obviously haven't watched Grilli pitch lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Grilli failed after being demoted to mop up

    37 year old flash in the pan

    I read some book reviews of his autobiography, apparently the guy is a pompous deluded asshole, prob a clubhouse cancer
    This x 10000.

    Angels are just a dumb franchise all around. Dumb owner, dumb management/manager, dumb players....

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    Pirates win, much rather have Frieri

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    Quote Originally Posted by lou9093 View Post
    Good move for the angels
    This.

    Pirates got donkey punched here.

    Classic Pirates move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Grilli failed after being demoted to mop up

    37 year old flash in the pan

    I read some book reviews of his autobiography, apparently the guy is a pompous deluded asshole, prob a clubhouse cancer
    sounds like you are bitter that your Pirates suck again...

    Hell i dont blame you man i would be pissed too if i was a Pirates fan.

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    like two guys at the dog park trading bags of poop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    This.

    Pirates got donkey punched here.

    Classic Pirates move.
    You are an absolute fvcking idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    like two guys at the dog park trading bags of poop
    Accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    This.

    Pirates got donkey punched here.

    Classic Pirates move.
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    sounds like you are bitter that your Pirates suck again...

    Hell i dont blame you I would be pissed too if i was a Pirates fan.
    they aren't MY Pirates, though they are actually doing better than I predicted this year, and maybe still have a shot.

    I don't think the Pirates have gotten donkey punched on many trades the last decade, they usually come out ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    You obviously haven't watched Grilli pitch lately.
    youre right. i didnt see him pitch cause i smashed the tv after frieri's latest & greatest performance.


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    is this official? if so, pure desperation for the angels. Grili was terrible with Detroit. See Hanranhan in Pittsburgh and then Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    youre right. i didnt see him pitch cause i smashed the tv after frieri's latest & greatest performance.

    Frieri's degree of difficulty is much higher than Grilli's in Pittsburgh. Something tells me he'll benefit from the change of scenery and regular opponents. Grilli on the other hand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Herest View Post
    is this official? if so, pure desperation for the angels. Grili was terrible with Detroit. See Hanranhan in Pittsburgh and then Boston.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    What?
    He was giving an example of a reliever that did great in Pittsburgh and then tanked in the American League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    He was giving an example of a reliever that did great in Pittsburgh and then tanked in the American League.
    That doesn't even count. Hanrahan was hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Agree. Only Scioscia could take a roster like that -- even with the bullpen being as bad as it is -- and post the kind of record they have the past few years. He's the worst. Right up there with Kirk Gibson.
    Not to sound like a rigtard, but sometimes watching Angels games it feels like Mike Scioscia is purposely sabotaging the team. Some of his decisions just defy all logic. Apparently, like some players, long-term contracts can result in complacency. Mike Scioscia is under contract until 2018, and his wife is best friends with the owner's wife. That means he's not going anywhere anytime soon.

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    Angels had to cut loose Frieri. Scioscia couldn't see it but at least Dipoto did. Not sure Grilli is the answer but watch for another trade to come!

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    I can see the thought process for the Pirates with Frieri being the younger guy and benefiting from the change of scenery and the move to the NL but I have no clue why the Angels would go ahead with this trade. Gotta think they were desperate for another closer and will likely use Grilli as the closer pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Not to sound like a rigtard, but sometimes watching Angels games it feels like Mike Scioscia is purposely sabotaging the team. Some of his decisions just defy all logic. Apparently, like some players, long-term contracts can result in complacency. Mike Scioscia is under contract until 2018, and his wife is best friends with the owner's wife. That means he's not going anywhere anytime soon.
    He and Gibson are both an embarrassment to baseball. There are a lot of bad managers around the league, but those two take the cake (and I'm obviously a huge Gibby fan from his playing days in Detroit).

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    Echoing the sentiment above, this is basically trash for trash. Grilli was a one hit wonder, and now the carriage has turned back to a pumpkin. His career stats are atrocious. On the other hand Frieri is a one pitch pitcher. You can't get by in the majors throwing fastball after fastball, especially when your command of the strike zone is awful.

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    This was a great move for the Angels. The manager fell in love with Frieri too much. He has just been a lousy reliever to trust at the back end. It should work out okay for Frieri as well not being relied on in Pittsburgh. I did not see this trade coming at all.

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    Looks like the managers were loyal to a fault with their old closers so the front office took matters into their own hands and took those options away

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    They traded a grill for a fryer. Even trade to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    They traded a grill for a fryer. Even trade to me.
    OK I chuckled.

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    Frieri is a bum , good trade for the angels

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    Grilli didn't get the job done today

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