1. 06-29-14 07:03 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Grilli didn't get the job done today
    This old man is finished. Period.

    Only the Angels would be playing well for a change and acquire a washed-up old man and locker room cancer to ruin their momentum. This team's (mis)management never ceases to amaze me.
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  2. 06-29-14 07:07 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    This old man is finished. Period.

    Only the Angels would be playing well for a change and acquire a washed-up old man and locker room cancer to ruin their momentum. This team's (mis)management never ceases to amaze me.
    that washed up old man was the best closer in baseball last year.


    You don't have a clue pal.
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    In the words of the immortal Scotty Bowman, "nothing for nothing"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Grilli didn't get the job done today
    He has actually pitched great his two games as an Angel.

    The defense failed him today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    that washed up old man was the best closer in baseball last year.


    You don't have a clue pal.
    Do you watch games? Doubt it.

    Do me a favor and watch him pitch next time. He's garbage. Just like he was basically for his whole career other than a few outlier years in Pittsburgh where he developed better off speed stuff for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    He has actually pitched great his two games as an Angel.

    The defense failed him today.
    Defensive blunders aside, I would hardly qualify that as a "great" performance today.
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    it was a non-save situation.

    even great closers like mariano rivera had awful numbers in non-save situations.

    give the guy at least 10 save opportunities before labeling him washed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    give the guy at least 10 save opportunities before labeling him washed up.
    I've watched him all season. He's old, his stuff has fallen off and he's a bad clubhouse guy from what I've read. Why the Angels would take him -- even if they did want to get rid of Frieri -- is beyond me. The idea of this guy closing against AL teams in a pennant race is almost laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I've watched him all season. He's old, his stuff has fallen off and he's a bad clubhouse guy from what I've read. Why the Angels would take him -- even if they did want to get rid of Frieri -- is beyond me. The idea of this guy closing against AL teams in a pennant race is almost laughable.
    you make it sound like frieri was an all-star or something. he was so awful scioscia was using a rookie from class-a as his closer. he was close to being released so to get anyone, especially a proven all-star caliber closer was a coup for the angels.

    sure it wouldve been nicer to get hudson street or papelbon but it speaks to how awful frieris trade value was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    you make it sound like frieri was an all-star or something. he was so awful scioscia was using a rookie from class-a as his closer. he was close to being released so to get anyone, especially a proven all-star caliber closer was a coup for the angels.

    sure it wouldve been nicer to get hudson street or papelbon but it speaks to how awful frieris trade value was.
    I know they were just trying to get rid of Frieri. I just don't see how trading one bad closer for another solves anything. And I'm sorry, the guy isn't a "proven all-star closer." Again, he had one fluke year in that role in the bad NL Central.
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    trade deadline is july 31 so i do believe angels will make another trade for street or papelbon then.

    so to have grilli closing in the short term makes perfect sense especially since frieri was never going to see another save situation ever again.

    there is no downside to this trade. the upside is that grilli will regain his all-star form from last season. at worst he could blow every save which is what frieri was doing anyways.
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  12. 06-30-14 07:45 AM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I know they were just trying to get rid of Frieri. I just don't see how trading one bad closer for another solves anything. And I'm sorry, the guy isn't a "proven all-star closer." Again, he had one fluke year in that role in the bad NL Central.

    hit it on the head with the fluke comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    hit it on the head with the fluke comment
    IIRC, Grilli developed better off-speed stuff after he arrived in Pittsburgh.

    That magical run is over, though. Back to a pumpkin you go. Angels gained nothing from this trade. Father time is crushing the "second wind" Grilli gained on his career.

    I have to give the Pirates' pitching coach credit -- he's made a bunch of guys like Grilli overachieve and appear legit.
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  14. 07-03-14 08:53 PM #49
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    lol this clown. no matter where he goes. you know he's gonna load up the bases.

    so glad he's no longer an angel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    lol this clown. no matter where he goes. you know he's gonna load up the bases.

    so glad he's no longer an angel.
    He's an automatic 2 runs for the opposing team, everytime
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    i'm telling you, he fukked me on so many unders, i stopped betting totals in baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    i'm telling you, he fukked me on so many unders, i stopped betting totals in baseball.
    Like tonight. Frieri good for my D-Backs bet, but killed my Under.
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    frieri good once in awhile..grilli bad all the time.
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    Grilli looked good tonight. 95 mph fast ball on the paint, with good movement. And a pretty steady slider too. He looks like the goods for angels if he can regain some confidence.
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    Oh Frieri. What a disaster outing tonight.
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    neither one of these two clowns is the least bit reliable
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    frieri tonight: 0.1 innings, 5 hits, 5 ers, 19.29 era
    grilli with angels: 3.1 innings, 1 hit, 0 er, 0.00 era.

    anyone who believes angels made a mistake is completely clueless.
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    frieri blows another game.... on another walk off hr.

    meanwhile grilli in 6 games for the angels has 0.00 era.
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    those east coast guys will learn how bad frieri's been this year.
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    yeah which is why its always a bad idea to look at a trade from only 1 pov.
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    I would take either of these guys over Addison Reed. It's amazing how this guy still has a closer spot in the league after the White Sox shipped him with all the games he lost for them last year. Mind blowing.
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    grilli just tossed another scoreless inning. i think we know angels got the better part of that that frieri to pirates trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWays View Post
    grilli just tossed another scoreless inning. i think we know angels got the better part of that that frieri to pirates trade.
    i think most guys here are smart enough to know that.
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    i feel like i'm playing russian roulette but taking pitt tonight. hopefully frieri doesn't enter the game.
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    Ah the classic lose lose deal. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robber View Post
    Ah the classic lose lose deal. .
    Not exactly, the Angels bullpen has been great since the trade. Collective 1.64 ERA and 1.00 WHIP the last 10 games. Grilli yet to all an earned run in six innings in a set-up role, which he could be better suited for. Joe Smith doing nice job as closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Not exactly, the Angels bullpen has been great since the trade. Collective 1.64 ERA and 1.00 WHIP the last 10 games. Grilli yet to all an earned run in six innings in a set-up role, which he could be better suited for. Joe Smith doing nice job as closer.
    Grilled cheese never lasts

    The bullpen as a whole is not his doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robber View Post
    Grilled cheese never lasts

    The bullpen as a whole is not his doing
    Addition by subtraction, Scioscia had too much faith in Frieri
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    angels traded for hudson street as predicted.

    grilli has pitched in 9 games for angels and sports a sparkling 1.13 era. meanwhile frieri sports a 13.50 era for the pirates.

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    pirates designated frieri for assignment.

    lol

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...games?v=1&vc=1
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