[rake922]

Do you that think an online European roulette game with a live dealer is harder to win at or does it yield the same probabilities as a brick and mortar casino?

[CanuckG]

All the same

[rake922]

All the same

Fair enough ....

99% of people on Sbr here think a virtual casino (like SBR Casino games) are probably rigged......................



for example the software can cause you to have a 35% probability of winning whatever color (black/red) you place the bet on

[CanuckG]

Possible. No need to really rig it though they already have a big enough edge

[Optional]

Fair enough ....

99% of people on Sbr here think a virtual casino (like SBR Casino games) are probably rigged......................



for example the software can cause you to have a 35% probability of winning whatever color (black/red) you place the bet on

A lot of the time people say proof of rigging is not getting enough 4 of a Kinds over a sample period. Or the dealer getting 20/21 way more than expected. But I think in most cases the overall long term payback percentage would still be in the 95-99% range, where it should be.

If a game allows the operator to set a fixed return rate, then it can't also being relying on total randomness. I expect these long runs of one particular metric not fitting the random expectation is more about programming quirks than rigging in most cases.

[daneblazer]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...st-rigged.html

[rkelly110]

Online definitely rigged. The trick is to keep your bets low. Software knows when you are chasing and will get you
when making big bets, but goes in spurts. By then your roll is shot to make a comeback.

Trick is not to make a killing. Set your profit or close to it and quit. I call it, hit it and quit it. Time is not on your side
online or at a casino.

[jjgold]

tough to say

live dealers ok because pace of game much slower

More bad beats online casino lets say BJ because way more hands per minute than live in Casino or live dealer online

[rake922]

Online definitely rigged. The trick is to keep your bets low. Software knows when you are chasing and will get you
when making big bets, but goes in spurts. By then your roll is shot to make a comeback.

Trick is not to make a killing. Set your profit or close to it and quit. I call it, hit it and quit it. Time is not on your side
online or at a casino.

go ahead an read poll question again... word for word

[rake922]

pretty consistent run of black numbers there... am i right

[CanuckG]

Should have rode the streak

[Russian Rocket]

5dimes




SBR

[rake922]

Russian Rocket why would you play american roulette? Also this thread was supposed to be about live dealer not virtual dealer but took a detour

[rake922]

pretty consistent run of black numbers there... am i right

here were her spins later on after a long string of black spins......

The reds made a come back

[Russian Rocket]

Russian Rocket why would you play american roulette? Also this thread was supposed to be about live dealer not virtual dealer but took a detour

I'm just giving you more food for thought -- no matter what you're trying to compare here.... live, online, with/without dealer - you will end up having a pretty similar results.

...I personally don't play at online casinos...or any casinos for that matter

[jjgold]

Whatever live situation you're playing in they love you because you cannot win

[rake922]

Whatever live situation you're playing in they love you because you cannot win

and what happened to "don't ever give up" ?

[MonkeyF0cker]

If a game allows the operator to set a fixed return rate, then it can't also being relying on total randomness. I expect these long runs of one particular metric not fitting the random expectation is more about programming quirks than rigging in most cases.

That's not really true. You can set the probabilities within the game and the RNG can generate completely random selections. Let's say you code a game where the result is determined by the RNG selecting a random number between 1 and 1000. If the true probability of an event occurring in the game you're playing is 50%, then (in a fair game) if the RNG randomly picks numbers 1-500, the player wins. If the RNG randomly picks 501-1000, the player loses. The game, however, could be coded for the random selection to only pay on random picks of 1-300 while 301-1000 would lose. The RNG maintains randomness but the game doesn't pay fairly. So, you certainly can set a return rate lower than advertised while using a completely unmanipulated, certified RNG.

This could be done with any sort of game using a random number generator. The manipulation could be done (and could be accomplished with much greater ease) after the output of the RNG. I'm not saying that this necessarily happens on a frequent basis - only that it is entirely possible for it to be done and would be the simplest way to intentionally or unintentionally rig any sort of random event through code.

[rake922]

That's not really true. You can set the probabilities within the game and the RNG can generate completely random selections. Let's say you code a game where the result is determined by the RNG selecting a random number between 1 and 1000. If the true probability of an event occurring in the game you're playing is 50%, then (in a fair game) if the RNG randomly picks numbers 1-500, the player wins. If the RNG randomly picks 501-1000, the player loses. The game, however, could be coded for the random selection to only pay on random picks of 1-300 while 301-1000 would lose. The RNG maintains randomness but the game doesn't pay fairly. So, you certainly can set a return rate lower than advertised while using a completely unmanipulated, certified RNG.

This could be done with any sort of game using a random number generator. The manipulation could be done (and could be accomplished with much greater ease) after the output of the RNG. I'm not saying that this necessarily happens on a frequent basis - only that it is entirely possible for it to be done and would be the simplest way to intentionally or unintentionally rig any sort of random event through code.

MonkeyF0cker not to be a jerk but can you read over the poll question again, then vote. This is important

[CanuckG]

What is the play here?

[Dr.Gonzo]

Live casinos aren't rigged.

[vividjohn45]

With the exception of sportsbooks and poker, casinos should be banned. You will never beat the houses edge. END OF STORY. This thread says look at the blackjack run. Look at the run over 5 years. YOU LOSE. HOUSE WINS. Save you paycheck for something of more value then a ripoff casino.

[vividjohn45]

Money spent in casino in february and march. Zer0. Losses zero. Money spent on girls $400. Best bet. Now go on.

[rake922]

With the exception of sportsbooks and poker, casinos should be banned. You will never beat the houses edge. END OF STORY. This thread says look at the blackjack run. Look at the run over 5 years. YOU LOSE. HOUSE WINS. Save you paycheck for something of more value then a ripoff casino.

what the hell

[Russian Rocket]

Rake get this:



...then try to reverse engineering this shit, to find out, if it can be rigged


let us know how it goes, pal and good luck!

[vividjohn45]

what the hell

Accurate. No way you go into a casino your whole life playing its games and on deaths bed. Say you beat the house. Lol. Good luck with that nasty shit.

[vividjohn45]

I know the 'ban on casinos' is a bit harsh. But i mean more self imposed. Get it through the thick skulls. All those peeps you see in the casino are lifetime losers. If they are regulars. Your life and money are better off staying far far away from casinos. That last saying is penetrating for real

[vividjohn45]

Like tonite i have a hot date with a hot blonde and high hopes of getting pussy. One of the reasons i got the cash for the date is i stay the fuk away from casinos.

[rake922]

Like tonite i have a hot date with a hot blonde and high hopes of getting pussy. One of the reasons i got the cash for the date is i stay the fuk away from casinos.

[jjgold]

It is amazing suckers play them meaning with live online or landline casinos

[Artizan]

It all depends by the live dealer.

[Lookingtostart]

Who's to say live online casinos aren't rigged? They already have the edge but I wouldn't put it past these dirtbags to want more.

[rake922]

Who's to say live online casinos aren't rigged? They already have the edge but I wouldn't put it past these dirtbags to want more.

somebody finally answered the question, but only way I could think of rigging the game would be a magnet

[captrobey]

somebody finally answered the question, but only way I could think of rigging the game would be a magnet

It may be Live but the cards you see are still virtual . I have had where the dealer finishes a hand and supposedly removed the cards for the next round. But they are still there. Then the new cards come and you have all these cards all over the place. You see it on your end but she does not on hers. There is a video on you tube where a guy was filming it live and could freeze it. He was dealt i think it was a 9. But when he froze it and you look at the card when she first grabbed it for a milisecond you can see it was clearly a 7 but by the time it got to the end it was a 9 so he went Over.

[MonkeyF0cker]

MonkeyF0cker not to be a jerk but can you read over the poll question again, then vote. This is important

I've never played in the live online casinos. So, I don't really have an answer for you. My general advice would be to avoid both.