1. 01-10-14 12:51 AM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin101 View Post
    Ill just place a few bets and learn as the game goes on and if the casino hustles me then so be it. Seems like the easiest way to learn
    Easiest way is bet pass line and then the odds on whatever point shows up that's it. The fancier bets you will learn in time, some you will Learn quickly.

    Look at it this way on Super Bowl Sunday a novice just bets the spread and enjoys the game. We as sports bettors look at totals half times proposition bets etc etc etc. in craps you are a novice so do what I recommended. Pass line and the odds and just root for your number 4/5/6/8/9/10. Whichever number it is, and root against the 7. Nothing else mattters
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  2. 01-10-14 02:40 AM #37
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    Stretch those wrists before throwing
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  3. 01-10-14 05:53 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony_come View Post
    Stretch those wrists before throwing
    Yeah don't wanna end up like Tony with carpal tunnel lol


    But craps is the absolute funniest game in the casino also the most exciting where the dealers get into it as well because really your not playing against them actually 90% will help you out without a care and you can help them out by letting them "play with you" on a small side bet

    Like James said stick with the pass line nothing else to start, last time I went to Vegas I only had $10 in my pocket and the rest was on card id need to get from the ATM... Stopped at the craps table in the morning on the way up to my room..... $10 turned into $1850 on the plane ride home... And I was paying for drinks by the pool all day, all the meals at night, took the girl shopping got her a few nicer things.......NEVER ONCE TOUCHED MY CARD.... That is a successful 4 days in the city right there.
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  4. 01-10-14 06:07 AM #39
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    Pass line and back it up ..no other way. or don't pass line and back it up
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  5. 01-10-14 09:39 AM #40
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    Fukk, never thought craps was this complicated.
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  6. 01-10-14 09:55 AM #41
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    Tj coutlier is a wsop poker champ anBusted out craps player. Stay away from casino games and slots if u want to win long term. Sports betting and poker are safest bets.
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  7. 01-10-14 11:55 AM #42
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    Of course your going to bust out playing casinos games but good action game and you can get lucky and make scores more than sports
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  8. 01-10-14 06:57 PM #43
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    Lots of great info in this thread!
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  9. 01-10-14 07:04 PM #44
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    3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps
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  10. 01-10-14 07:04 PM #45
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    Man my friends and I have gone on some incredible runs playing craps. It's truly a miracle when the whole table is basically a team burying the house (until they don't).
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  11. 01-10-14 07:13 PM #46
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    Thoughts from a past post...


    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post

    Money Management is key and being properly Bankrolled -- You have to be at the table when a hot roll begins , so don't bust-out... Might take 2 or 3 or 4 hrs , then again it might be the 1st roll when you buy-in

    At minimum you need 10x the amount of $$ you'll have on the table in action at the same time... Say you do $5.00 Pass + $25 Odds then Place two #s for $30 each. Total of 90.00 dollars. $90 x 10 = $900.00 -- Personally I would want $1,200.00

    Ok , say you do that ^ -- Do NOT increase your exposure until you have collected 3x from same shooter then Place one more number or do a 1/2 Press. Never Press twice in a row. Collect one FULL hit then 1/2 press. So it would be, Collect , 1/2 press , Collect , 1/2 press , Collect , 1/2 press , Collect , 1/2 press ...

    There is nothing you can do to FORCE a hot roll. Some idiots believe if they raise their bet amounts and/or press too fast they can force a hot roll

    Those are just a few thoughts...
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  12. 01-10-14 07:13 PM #47
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    hard to get 5x or 10x odds

    I am pumped feeling like playing online now
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  13. 01-10-14 07:24 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post

    I am pumped feeling like playing online now




    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ino-craps.html
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  14. 01-10-14 07:36 PM #49
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  15. 01-10-14 08:14 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by vividjohn45 View Post
    Tj coutlier is a wsop poker champ anBusted out craps player. Stay away from casino games and slots if u want to win long term. Sports betting and poker are safest bets.
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  16. 01-16-14 11:25 PM #51
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    just run the "iron cross" for a bit, pressing once or twice, then start to come down off your bets to insure profit and ride whats left till you bust. last long enough to get a few free drinks so you forget that you're losing your ass the longer you stay there. OR... you could do what my buddies and I did and practice at our home table for a month before going on our first trip to AC. strut in with your piddly 300 bucks thinking you're gonna go on a rainman like run and lose 90% of your roll in 15 minutes. then try to get 80 bucks back by betting that you would run into the ocean (in march w/ no other clothes)---finally resigning to the 1/2 pot limit tables to try to make it to the end of the day before losing your money (oh and trying to get drunk on free watered down booze in a dixie cup) (oh and getting sucked out on in 1/2 every hand by a chinese guy who called everything who we affectionately nicknamed "kung pow"......ahh good times
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  17. 01-16-14 11:36 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan084 View Post
    just run the "iron cross" for a bit, pressing once or twice, then start to come down off your bets to insure profit and ride whats left till you bust. last long enough to get a few free drinks so you forget that you're losing your ass the longer you stay there. OR... you could do what my buddies and I did and practice at our home table for a month before going on our first trip to AC. strut in with your piddly 300 bucks thinking you're gonna go on a rainman like run and lose 90% of your roll in 15 minutes. then try to get 80 bucks back by betting that you would run into the ocean (in march w/ no other clothes)---finally resigning to the 1/2 pot limit tables to try to make it to the end of the day before losing your money (oh and trying to get drunk on free watered down booze in a dixie cup) (oh and getting sucked out on in 1/2 every hand by a chinese guy who called everything who we affectionately nicknamed "kung pow"......ahh good times
    that's how things really go right there
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  18. 01-16-14 11:39 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps

    I hope this is a joke, because it is 100% inaccurate.
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  19. 01-20-14 12:27 AM #54
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    Stick with the pass line. Jump right into the fire, find a $5 table, put a nickel on the line and wait to see if the dealer gives you another or takes it. The fastest way to learn is when you have a little skin in the game. you'll pay much better attention.
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  20. 01-20-14 12:47 AM #55
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    I love crAps.

    they say it's the best odds in the casino.

    I've gone on some incredible runs turning my cash 10 times in a few minutes, yet also lost it all in a few minutes. It's a crazy game.

    I always bet max odds on pass and 6 & 8, then go with the flow on a good roll.

    you win some, you lose some. but it's better on a good rolling street.

    And when you are rolling good it's awesome to see other players yelling out "$5 Yo for the roller!"
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  21. 01-20-14 12:59 AM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post

    3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps
    Quote Originally Posted by James D View Post

    I hope this is a joke, because it is 100% inaccurate.

    Not joking...

    If you are seriously interested I'll explain
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  22. 01-20-14 01:03 AM #57
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    1000x odds

    Would be awesome!!!
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  23. 01-20-14 01:54 AM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps
    Sure it does. The more you can bet on odds the less the house edge on the total money wagered. Still -ev but not by much at 100x odds.
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  24. 01-20-14 04:33 AM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Not joking...

    If you are seriously interested I'll explain

    Did not see your reply until this morning. Very interested to hear your thoughts, thanks.
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  25. 01-20-14 12:14 PM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by James D View Post

    Did not see your reply until this morning. Very interested to hear your thoughts, thanks.

    Cool...

    let's make sure of what was said: "3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps"


    Odds are a 2nd (passline 1st) independent bet with zero House/Player edge. If simulated to <big>∞ </big>it is break-even

    If you agree to that ^ ... Ask yourself how can a zero edge bet influence a previously established 1.41% House edge wager ?
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  26. 01-20-14 12:50 PM #61
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    This is no more addicting casino games then craps. When you play the absolute thrill exceeds any other game
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  27. 01-20-14 02:01 PM #62
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  28. 01-20-14 02:04 PM #63
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    Pass line, place 6 & 8, 5 bucks on the fire-bet to win 5k....odds-bet on points 4 & 10 with 2 to 1 payout
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  29. 01-20-14 03:37 PM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Cool...

    let's make sure of what was said: "3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps"


    Odds are a 2nd (passline 1st) independent bet with zero House/Player edge. If simulated to ∞ it is break-even

    If you agree to that ^ ... Ask yourself how can a zero edge bet influence a previously established 1.41% House edge wager ?
    your statement is wrong. you should have said it does not affect the -EV of the pass line wager.
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  30. 01-20-14 03:47 PM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaabee View Post

    your statement is wrong. you should have said it does not affect the -EV of the pass line wager.

    So which wager/bet on the Craps layout is affected Plus or Minus by an Odds bet ?

    Cause there are NO +EV options
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  31. 01-20-14 03:48 PM #66
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    your statement was this: "3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps"

    craps is a game not a wager or bet. you are saying that 3x or 1000x does not affect the EV of the game. clearly not true.
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  32. 01-20-14 03:54 PM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaabee View Post
    craps is a game not a wager or bet.

    It is a series of bets NONE are +EV

    We should all know that a combination of any -EV bets cannot = Positive expectation : same goes for a 0/EV and any -EV combination
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  33. 01-20-14 03:59 PM #68
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    it's just semantics. the -ev is affected in that it's reduced. it's not affected in that it's still negative. we'll leave it at that.
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  34. 01-20-14 03:59 PM #69
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    Are you (anyone) saying...

    A 0/EV wager makes a previous -EV wager less Negative ?
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  35. 01-20-14 04:00 PM #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Are you (anyone) saying...

    A 0/EV wager makes a previous -EV wager less Negative ?
    no, it makes the overall game less negative.
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