I took the Under 2.5 for a few units. Pretty much the same price and it covers the possibility that Hill gets a finish. 4 of Andrade's 5 career losses are by stoppageOriginally Posted by TPowell
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02-02-17 12:28 AM #36
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02-02-17 01:01 AM #37
lose the last half of round 3 stoppage win for Andrade though. I'll have to look at it again. May take fight doesn't go distance instead Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
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02-02-17 01:09 AM #38
Yeah I don't see either of them getting a late stoppage but who knows. To this point none of their combined 15 finishes have come in Round 3 or later. Originally Posted by TPowell
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02-02-17 01:19 AM #39
Am I the only one not liking what they see in Skelly? His best win was when he got knocked down early against Souza but still pulled out a submission victory. Other than that fight he hasn't looked very resilient and everything he does seems labored. He clearly has the grappling advantage over Gruetz who looks like he has more 'grits' than skill in any particular area. But mental toughness and constant pressure may be enough here. Seems like he's got a better than +400 chance of surviving round 1 and then grinding out round 2 and 3 for a decision win. Not sure by how much though.
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02-02-17 01:22 AM #40
Remember this is in Texas so Gruetz will really have to win rounds decisively to get the judge's nod. This might be a good spot to live bet him after R1 if you like his chances Originally Posted by turbozed
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02-02-17 01:59 AM #41
Why is this line even somewhat close? Hamilton should outweigh him by 25+ lbs and has 5" of height on him. Hamilton is a strong heavyweight, whereas Fortuna has lost decisions to big middleweights. Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
I don't see how Fortuna wins here unless a submission lands in his lap. Even the submissions he has are against opponents with losing records in regional events (except for one opponent who was 8-5). He has no KO/TKO victories.
Edit: Commentator in one of Ortega's fights in 2014 mentioned that he walks around at 240, so maybe the weight may not be 25+ lbs after all. These small circuit commentators do not sound very knowledgable or trustworthy, so take it with a grain of salt.Last edited by turbozed; 02-02-17 at 02:04 AM. Reason: Additional Info
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02-02-17 02:19 AM #42
Didn't even occurred to me to live bet this one. Thanks for the tip! Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
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02-02-17 07:41 AM #43
Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
Yea since she went 115 from 135 she don't leave em to decisions, she beat holy piss outta Penne, and Calderwood became a pretzel. Problem was she wasn't big enough to hang with the other 135's. That said at 115, she doesn't look any different, so she just man-handles dem other gals. Heck her opponent this fight even said it, she wants Joanna, but this will be harder than that fight. Andrade has both avenues to victory, ground and stand-up goin for her. Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
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02-02-17 09:30 AM #44
No problem. Live betting also covers for the possibility that Skelly gets the early finish. Originally Posted by turbozed
Didn't even occurred to me to live bet this one. Thanks for the tip!
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02-02-17 09:30 AM #45
Yup. I think she is the worst matchup for JJ. Originally Posted by rsynweap84
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02-02-17 10:09 AM #46
I do think so too
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02-02-17 10:40 AM #47
I'm not really excited for this card for some reason.. Average fights, too many chicks fighting.. Not my favorite fighters. Bermudez and OSP are maybe the best scraps on the card but what ever...
I'll still play it from bottom to top but it's a favorite heavy card IMO.. Not alot of value on the straights.. Prop play and O/U's I will be playing mostly myself.. Still it's MMA and the UFC..Points Awarded:
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02-02-17 11:58 AM #48
More like a full 60 pounds. UFC needs to add an upper weight class to mens, just like it does with Originally Posted by turbozed
women who get stuck in the 115-135 gap.
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02-02-17 12:22 PM #49
all they need is to keep LHW 205, add cruiserweight 225 then heavyweight 265 limit Originally Posted by Snowball
if they added a super HW there would be 5 people in that division lolPoints Awarded:
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02-02-17 02:23 PM #50
All props have been posted for this card.
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02-02-17 02:55 PM #51
Just know that Chas Skelly was injured going into his fight with Darren Elkins. Originally Posted by turbozed
Skelly also broke his foot or sustained some serious injury(I don't remember) when he fought Kevin Souza and still won the fight.
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02-02-17 03:29 PM #52
I won a 10 fight parlay the last card. Here's my crazy parlay for his card:
2/2/17 4:25pm $5.00 $1,911.07 Pending 12 Team Parlay Pending 2/4/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Dennis Bermudez -200* vs Chan Sung Jung Pending 2/4/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Alexa Grasso -300* vs Felice Herrig Pending 2/4/17 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Abel Trujillo -110* vs James Vick Pending 2/4/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Ovince Saint Preux -340* vs Volkan Oezdemir Pending 2/4/17 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1402 Anthony Hamilton -190* vs Marcel Fortuna Pending 2/4/17 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1502 Jessica Andrade -525* vs Angela Hill Pending 2/4/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Adam Milstead +210* vs Curtis Blaydes Pending 2/4/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1702 Chas Skelly -270* vs Chris Gruetzemacher Pending 2/4/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1801 Ricardo Lucas Ramos +150* vs Michinori Tanaka Pending 2/4/17 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1902 Tecia Torres -280* vs Bec Rawlings Pending 2/4/17 7:30pm UFC Fighting 2002 Niko Price -125* vs Alex Morono Pending 2/4/17 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2102 Khalil Rountree -155* vs Daniel Jolly
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02-02-17 03:35 PM #53
Could see this hitting. Best of luck Originally Posted by Rich Benjamins
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02-02-17 05:31 PM #54
Did not know this, thanks for the info! Originally Posted by Sanity Check
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02-02-17 06:21 PM #55
100% agree. Will be live betting mainly. It is the UFC though and anything possible! Let's hope for some great fights! Also women's MMA has come on leaps and bounds, I use to dread the female fights but recently they are starting to deliver a lot more finishes. Originally Posted by JIBBBY
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02-02-17 06:54 PM #56
Thanks, those are all of the fighters who i think have the best chance of winning their fights.
Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
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02-02-17 07:24 PM #57
This is the card of enormous men and tiny women
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02-02-17 07:55 PM #58
I only got 1 problem with this...and it's Rountree. Originally Posted by Rich Benjamins
Truth be told both these guys suck, I mean these guys are dumpster fire quality fighters next to just about any others in the UFC. However, when I look at Rountree he's just a blazing pile o sh!t...at least Jolly made a very capable Cirkunov work for 5 minutes on the ground before going out by TKO. Sh!tpile Rountree on the other hand had 0 answer to Sanchez, and while landing a dangerous punch on Pedro, had an utter look of horror when Pedro wrapped him up and took him down immediately afterwords. With good reason, because he has literally no ground game whatsoever. Bad as Rountree is tho, it might only take one punch on Jolly, but if he can't connect before the takedown I can't see Rountree taking it.
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02-02-17 08:26 PM #59
I wouldn't bet on the Rountree/Jolly fight except in a parlay. I think you're right about him. But Jolly isn't that great at takedowns, he mostly looks to keep it standing. Rountree is a superior standup fighter and should win the standup game and possibly get a 1st round KO.
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02-02-17 09:03 PM #60
Aye I that's how I'm playin' this fight, Jolly isn't great at takedowns, but Rountree isn't great at stopping them either. Jolly doesn't mind gettin' in the clinch and fighting, though I don't know I'd reccomend it, but if he does close distance he won't have trouble gettin' him down. Still, Rountree did almost KO Pedro, so the power is there, but after round 1 if he had to work at all, he's gonna be gassed. At least the props are workable though. Originally Posted by Rich Benjamins
Sat 2/4 2105 Jolly wins inside distance +245
Rountree wins by TKO/KO +105
Rountree wins in round 1 +175
I think these are they way this fight shapes up, think money can be made here.
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02-02-17 10:35 PM #61
Vegas Dave has some super bowl $$$ contests going ^ info in description.
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02-02-17 10:38 PM #62
Thinking Oezdemir might miss weight. He has to cut 35 pounds in 2 weeks
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02-02-17 10:42 PM #63
Isn't Vegas Dave broke after betting $1 million on Tate against Nunes? What an ignorant bet that was.
Originally Posted by Sanity Check
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02-03-17 12:49 AM #64
Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
curious about that myself. Hate laying that price on OSP though. Hands always low and such but OSP could easily kill him on the ground
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02-03-17 12:50 AM #65
Anybody know much about Daniel Jolly? Short notice debut against Misha Cirkunov in September 2015 and hasn't even been SCHEDULED to fight since then. Couple different possibilities IMO
1. Jolly has been waiting for a really good matchup for him
2. Jolly isn't training full time (has another job) and just wanted to get on this Texas card since he lives/trains in Texas
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02-03-17 12:51 AM #66
Yeah absolutely no value on OSP ML. I'd say play the dog, a prop or pass Originally Posted by TPowell
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02-03-17 12:58 AM #67
Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
Thought about OSP ITD to be honest. SUB price is +400 which isn't bad either.
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02-03-17 01:09 AM #68
Yeah I took OSP R1 and Sub but couldn't fault you for talking the ITD. Originally Posted by TPowell
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02-03-17 01:26 AM #69
Just saw that Jolly spent time at American Top Team for this fight and they'll be cornering him which is a BIG step up from Gracie Barra Woodlands. Listening to this 30 min. interview now with him. Apparently he was a D1 RB at Colorado in college. Spent around 8 weeks at ATT and stayed in the dorms there as well. Talks about his wife taking on a lot of financial burdens to help him train which is a great sign. Says he's not naive to think you can only be half in and expect to do well. Had a major knee surgery that kept him out this long. I don't like the fact that he doesn't have a REAL MMA background and has that Kuk Sool Won background though. Doesn't cut much weight to get down to 205 either. Says he averages around 215-220 normally at his worst. Guy is the whitest sounding black guy ever and for a D1 athlete from Texas, is VERY chill and laid back.
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02-03-17 02:13 AM #70
Thanks for the info. Dude legit sounds like Urkle Originally Posted by TPowell
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