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    UFC 200 : DC vs JONES (July 9, 1016)




    UFC 200 - Light Heavyweight 5 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1001 Daniel Cormier +260 o4½ -140
    11:59PM 1002 Jon Jones -320 u4½ +120
    UFC 200 - Featherweight 5 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1101 Frankie Edgar -120 o4½ -120
    11:30PM 1102 Jose Aldo +100 u4½ +100
    UFC 200 - Bantamweight 5 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1201 Amanda Nunes +220 o1½ -230
    11:00PM 1202 Miesha Tate -260 u1½ +190
    UFC 200 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1301 Travis Browne +245 o1½ -115
    10:30PM 1302 Cain Velasquez -290 u1½ -105
    UFC 200 - Welterweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1401 Kelvin Gastelum +145 o2½ -200
    10:00PM 1402 Johny Hendricks -165 u2½ +170
    UFC 200 - Middleweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1501 Derek Brunson +170 o2½ -130
    10:00PM 1502 Gegard Mousasi -200 u2½ +110
    UFC 200 - Lightweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1601 Diego Sanchez -110 o2½ -235
    9:30PM 1602 Joe Lauzon -110 u2½ +195
    UFC 200 - Welterweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1701 Enrique Marin +265 o1½ -130
    8:00PM 1702 Sage Northcutt -325 u1½ +110
    UFC 200 - Lightweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1801 Jim Miller -225 o1½ -150
    9:00PM 1802 Takanori Gomi +185 u1½ +130
    UFC 200 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 1901 Julianna Pena +135 o2½ -145
    8:30PM 1902 Cat Zingano -155 u2½ +125
    UFC 200 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada
    Sat 7/9 2001 Raphael Assuncao +320 o2½ -190
    8:00PM 2002 T.J. Dillashaw -390 u2½ +165
    UFC 200 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - T-Mobile Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
    Sat 7/9 2101 Brock Lesnar +140 o1½ +190
    8:00PM 2102 Mark Hunt -160 u1½ -230
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    Sorry Locky, odds have been out and this event is the Superbowl of MMA, just thought to crank up the thread and start the discussions already......

    Best odds as of 6/21/2016

    UFC 200: Cormier vs. Jones 2July 9th


    5Dimes BetDSI BookMaker Bovada SportBet Sportsbook William H. Pinnacle SportsInt. SBG Global TheGreek BetOnline BetUS Props
    Daniel Cormier +260 +260 +260 +235 +269 +235 +210 +252 +190 +260 +230 +245 +220 30
    Jon Jones -320 -315 -315 -305 -311 -300 -278 -292 -255 -320 -330 -285 -300 30
    Frankie Edgar -120 -115 -115 -120 -117 -120 +100 -113 -120 -120 -120 -115 -125 30
    Jose Aldo +100 -105 -105 -110 +103 -110 -125 +101 -110 +100 -110 -105 -105 30
    Johny Hendricks -165 -165 -165 -175 -162 -195 -175 -168 -145 -165 -180 -170 -170 20
    Kelvin Gastelum +145 +140 +140 +145 +148 +160 +138 +149 +115 +145 +135 +145 +140 20
    Amanda Nunes +220 +230 +230 +195 +226 +225 +200 +210 +195 +220 +185 +215 +200 30
    Miesha Tate -260 -275 -275 -250 -254 -290 -250 -241 -265 -260 -260 -255 -260 30
    Cain Velasquez -290 -300 -300 -305 -283 -285 -333 -290 -300 -290 -320 -300 -300 20
    Travis Browne +245 +250 +250 +235 +252 +220 +250 +250 +220 +245 +225 +250 +220 20
    Brock Lesnar +140 +143 +143 +140 +143 +140 +150 +145 +110 +140 +130 +145 +140 7
    Mark Hunt -160 -167 -167 -170 -157 -170 -189 -164 -135 -160 -170 -170 -170 7
    Diego Sanchez -110 -110 -110 -115 -107 -115 -110 -106 -115 -110 -115 -110 -115 20
    Joe Lauzon -110 -110 -110 -115 -107 -115 -110 -106 -115 -110 -115 -110 -115 20
    Enrique Marin +265 +265 +265 +255 +274 +230 +210 +270 +230 +265 +230 +255 +245 20
    Sage Northcutt -325 -320 -320 -335 -316 -295 -278 -315 -315 -325 -330 -295 -325 20
    Jim Miller -225 -225 -225 -230 -219 -235 -227 -220 -255 -225 -240 -225 -230 20
    Takanori Gomi +185 +190 +190 +180 +191 +190 +175 +193 +185 +185 +175 +190 +180 20
    Raphael Assuncao +320 +315 +315 +300 +330 +295 +300 +323 +320 +270 +320 +300 7
    T.J. Dillashaw -390 -390 -390 -400 -380 -390 -400 -383 -390 -400 -385 -400 7
    Cat Zingano -155 -160 -160 -155 -152 -149 -153 -155 -155 -155 -160 7
    Julianna Pena +135 +135 +135 +125 +138 +120 +136 +135 +120 +135 +130 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Sorry Locky, odds have been out and this event is the Superbowl of MMA, just thought to crank up the thread and start the discussions already......

    Best odds as of 6/21/2016

    UFC 200: Cormier vs. Jones 2July 9th


    5Dimes BetDSI BookMaker Bovada SportBet Sportsbook William H. Pinnacle SportsInt. SBG Global TheGreek BetOnline BetUS Props
    Daniel Cormier +260 +260 +260 +235 +269 +235 +210 +252 +190 +260 +230 +245 +220 30
    Jon Jones -320 -315 -315 -305 -311 -300 -278 -292 -255 -320 -330 -285 -300 30
    Frankie Edgar -120 -115 -115 -120 -117 -120 +100 -113 -120 -120 -120 -115 -125 30
    Jose Aldo +100 -105 -105 -110 +103 -110 -125 +101 -110 +100 -110 -105 -105 30
    Johny Hendricks -165 -165 -165 -175 -162 -195 -175 -168 -145 -165 -180 -170 -170 20
    Kelvin Gastelum +145 +140 +140 +145 +148 +160 +138 +149 +115 +145 +135 +145 +140 20
    Amanda Nunes +220 +230 +230 +195 +226 +225 +200 +210 +195 +220 +185 +215 +200 30
    Miesha Tate -260 -275 -275 -250 -254 -290 -250 -241 -265 -260 -260 -255 -260 30
    Cain Velasquez -290 -300 -300 -305 -283 -285 -333 -290 -300 -290 -320 -300 -300 20
    Travis Browne +245 +250 +250 +235 +252 +220 +250 +250 +220 +245 +225 +250 +220 20
    Brock Lesnar +140 +143 +143 +140 +143 +140 +150 +145 +110 +140 +130 +145 +140 7
    Mark Hunt -160 -167 -167 -170 -157 -170 -189 -164 -135 -160 -170 -170 -170 7
    Diego Sanchez -110 -110 -110 -115 -107 -115 -110 -106 -115 -110 -115 -110 -115 20
    Joe Lauzon -110 -110 -110 -115 -107 -115 -110 -106 -115 -110 -115 -110 -115 20
    Enrique Marin +265 +265 +265 +255 +274 +230 +210 +270 +230 +265 +230 +255 +245 20
    Sage Northcutt -325 -320 -320 -335 -316 -295 -278 -315 -315 -325 -330 -295 -325 20
    Jim Miller -225 -225 -225 -230 -219 -235 -227 -220 -255 -225 -240 -225 -230 20
    Takanori Gomi +185 +190 +190 +180 +191 +190 +175 +193 +185 +185 +175 +190 +180 20
    Raphael Assuncao +320 +315 +315 +300 +330 +295 +300 +323 +320 +270 +320 +300 7
    T.J. Dillashaw -390 -390 -390 -400 -380 -390 -400 -383 -390 -400 -385 -400 7
    Cat Zingano -155 -160 -160 -155 -152 -149 -153 -155 -155 -155 -160 7
    Julianna Pena +135 +135 +135 +125 +138 +120 +136 +135 +120 +135 +130 7
    Any early thoughts? I like value on Zingano, Assuncao, and Aldo off the bat. Also plenty of good props available

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    For starters -

    On Jon Jones again as he looked great in his last fight back against OSP.. Looked better then ever... Just not sure whether or not to take him ITD or by Decision this second go around?


    1009 Jones wins inside distance
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    1011 Jones wins by 5 round decision
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    For starters -

    On Jon Jones again as he looked great in his last fight back against OSP.. Looked better then ever... Just not sure whether or not to take him ITD or by Decision this second go around?


    1009 Jones wins inside distance
    +161


    1011 Jones wins by 5 round decision
    +120
    I don't think he looked better than ever against OSP but he still won the fight and it wasn't competitive. Jones hasn't finished anyone since Sonnen in 2013, Cormier is super durable so if you like Jones I'd go decision or unanimous decision (+170)

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    ^^Just started capping this event Hugo.. Sure alot of props to be had..

    Really liking Jose Aldo at +100 for starters.. I think he gets the best of Frankie standing and might even knock him out this time around.. He already beat him once by decision but if I remember correctly he had Franker rocked badly a few times.. Need to watch the tape on the first fight again..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jose-Aldo-11506

    Maybe Gas vs Johnny Hendricks is a dog hit in the making as that's a very interesting match up when you think about it...

    Tempted to try Kelvin at +145 as he's tough as nails and has good wrestling defense.. Could cause JH trouble for sure.. Need to see him at weigh ins though as Kelvin is a question mark with his weight usually..

    JH got beat down badly anyways by Wonderboy and I'm not so sure he is back to old self mentally after that just yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    ^^Just started capping this event Hugo.. Sure alot of props to be had..

    Really liking Jose Aldo at +100 for starters.. I think he gets the best of Frankie standing and might even knock him out..

    Maybe Gas vs Johnny Hendricks is a dog hit as that's a very interesting match up when you think about it... Tempted to try Kelvin at +145 as he's tough as nails and has good wrestling defense.. Could cause JH trouble for sure.. Need to see him at weigh ins though as Kelvin is a question mark with is weight.. JH got beat down badly anyways by Wonderboy and I'm not so sure he is back to old self after that just yet...
    Aldo can use his excellent striking and TDD to keep this on the feet and score points. I don't see Frankie being able to hold him down although he could win by KO (+370). I don't believe Frankie has ever been finished. I bet the Aldo UD prop (+425) for a few units already. Gastelum could definitely upset Hendricks although he's a bit overrated imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    For starters -

    On Jon Jones again as he looked great in his last fight back against OSP.. Looked better then ever... Just not sure whether or not to take him ITD or by Decision this second go around?


    1009 Jones wins inside distance
    +161


    1011 Jones wins by 5 round decision
    +120
    Quite clearly you mean worse than ever? Full of ring rust and wasnt close to finish OSP which Glover demolished within 3 rounds. People went: Woooaw look how bad jones jones look. People said, if that guy faced Cormier he will have lost a 50-45. Did you see 1 sec of that fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    I don't think he looked better than ever against OSP but he still won the fight and it wasn't competitive. Jones hasn't finished anyone since Sonnen in 2013, Cormier is super durable so if you like Jones I'd go decision or unanimous decision (+170)
    I know the decision prop is probably the smart call, just got a feeling with that bad blood JJ might really bring the heat and get DC out of their late in the fight this go around.. DC kinda gassed out in their last fight and he was hanging on.. DC is not getting any younger either at age 37 now.. JJ is just rounding into his MMA prime now at just age 28...

    JJ seems really rededicated to the sport and he did get that first comeback fight out of the way.. He should be back and stronger then ever in this rematch with DC.. He'll surely be confident going in that's for sure..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Quite clearly you mean worse than ever? Full of ring rust and wasnt close to finish OSP which Glover demolished within 3 rounds. People went: Woooaw look how bad jones jones look. People said, if that guy faced Cormier he will have lost a 50-45. Did you see 1 sec of that fight?
    OSP is a solid fighter and yeah I saw that fight obviously and remember it BJ.. It was a clinic for JJ as he won it by unanimous decision... He dominated OSP and I don't care what people said..



    Yeah I also saw and remember the fight with DC as he was taken down late and JJ worked him over to a unanimous decision win in that bout as well.. Clearly beat DC in just about every round..DC was gassing late in that fight..

    Unanimous decision JJ again is probably the right call like Hugo suggested.. DC is one tough customer.. Like I said I'm just starting to really think over these fights and props now..Just posting my early thoughts...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jon-Jones-27944

    1047 Jones wins by 5 round unanimous dec
    +170
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    Kinda liking Diego Sanchez against Joe Lauzon as well at even money..

    I really like Joe Lauzon as he's got alot of heart, but I think Diego will out pace Joe and grind out the win.. Maybe by decision.. I don't think Diego will let Joe get off standing.. Diego is a pressure fighter and should win rounds on points. I think this is bad match up for Joe..

    Diego can probably also take down Joe in this fight.. I highly doubt Joe can submit Diego off his back either.. Diego is a legit BBJ.... Diego has a granite chin as well and isn't getting ko'd....

    Gotta remember Diego just out worked Jim Miller in his last fight, and Joe already lost to Jim Miller a few years ago.. Joe just got out worked badly by Evan Dunham in his last fight loss.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Joe-Lauzon-4923
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    Going heavy on a 4 leg parlay
    Dos Anjos
    Jones
    Tate
    Ferguson

    Might add Cain as well.

    What do you think Jibby?
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    Speaking of Jim Miller he's fighting Gomi next. Joe Lauzon just ruined Gomi and knocked him out.. Thinking Jim does the same or subs him out.. Asian fade in full effect with this fight I believe...

    Miller ITD at +107 looks pretty good to me.. Jim hits hard and has a very good submission game.. Gomi is past his prime now at age 37 and is fading fast..

    Jim is coming off a couple tough decision losses and really needs this win. I'm sure he tries his best to get the finish in this one.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jim-Miller-14463

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_RUDESTER View Post
    Going heavy on a 4 leg parlay
    Dos Anjos
    Jones
    Tate
    Ferguson

    Might add Cain as well.

    What do you think Jibby?
    GL Rudester!!!


    I like it. On all those same fighters as well.. I'm going big on Jones and RDA myself...

    Tate I'm not so sure about but think she pulls it out.. Ferguson you just can't bet against right now no matter who he fights.. Cheisa is a tough grinder though with a solid submission and take down game.. El Cucuy probably gets the KO if I had to guess though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    GL Rudester!!!


    I like it. On all those same fighters as well.. I'm going big on Jones and RDA myself...

    Tate I'm not so sure about but think she pulls it out.. Ferguson you just can't bet against right now no matter who he fights.. Cheisa is a tough grinder though with a solid submission and take down game.. El Cucuy probably gets the KO if I had to guess though..
    Thanks.... Even though it looks like a no brainer due to them being all favorites glad to hear you agree. Good Luck to you as well.

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    Tate will weather the storm early and take control of the fight for sure I believe.

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    JIBBY whatever happened to that josh knows guy banned broke or also I like nunes here thoughts

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    OSP is a solid fighter and yeah I saw that fight obviously and remember it BJ.. It was a clinic for JJ as he won it by unanimous decision... He dominated OSP and I don't care what people said..



    Yeah I also saw and remember the fight with DC as he was taken down late and JJ worked him over to a unanimous decision win in that bout as well.. Clearly beat DC in just about every round..DC was gassing late in that fight..

    Unanimous decision JJ again is probably the right call like Hugo suggested.. DC is one tough customer.. Like I said I'm just starting to really think over these fights and props now..Just posting my early thoughts...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jon-Jones-27944

    1047 Jones wins by 5 round unanimous dec
    +170
    Jon Jones always win by unanimous dec or better, youre point was, that he looked great. He looked horrible, why are you defending it? ? We try to win money, and we need to be objective. Its important BE....

    CAUSE, this is directly linked to this: Since he looked horrible he will probably have a really good performance in this showing. Here we are in full agreement.

    Just this past week i avoided betting against Calderwood since she had a horrible showing last fight.

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    Most dogs have a real chance on this card. Jones was god awful in his last fight.

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    Thiago Santos is fighting Mousasi now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Thiago Santos is fighting Mousasi now.
    Thiago santos is looking like a real good fighter lately but mousasi off a loss is dangerous here , depending on odds this fight isn't untouchable unless mousasi is under -150 or santos is +200 or more

    regarding Jon Jones, his last fight against OSP was by far his worst performance to date in his career actually.... OSP Is a tricky fighter and you can find 1-5 highlights of Jones doing something good that fight but it was 25 minutes long , maybe Jon wanted to get the feel of the octagon again , maybe the powerlifting and size negatively effected his gas tank and he didn't wanna say anything? or it could've just been cage rust , but thing is DC has been fighting top competition in Gus and rumble, Cain has finally been healthy and they're fighting in the same card which is a big benefit, downfall is rockhold emulates Jones more and he's injured so he will not be helping Cormier train for this.. Leaning Jones but don't love the value so may add him into 2 seperate parlays , DC definitely has a chance here though he knows this fight is his whole career and the last fight was closer then fans really think , DC has gotten better and Jones has looked worse so this could get really interesting

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    Won over thales leites in his last fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Jon Jones always win by unanimous dec or better, youre point was, that he looked great. He looked horrible, why are you defending it? ? We try to win money, and we need to be objective. Its important BE....

    CAUSE, this is directly linked to this: Since he looked horrible he will probably have a really good performance in this showing. Here we are in full agreement.

    Just this past week i avoided betting against Calderwood since she had a horrible showing last fight.
    All good BJ, sometimes we all see fights a bit differently.. Perhaps JJ didn't look better then ever, I was wrong.. You're a strong capper BJ and I always enjoy reading your posts..

    Yep, for JJ being out for so long I thought he performed well though against OSP.. Considering ring rust, timing, pressure, etc.. and all that.. He was training to fight DC and not OSP as well for that fight..

    I think he takes it to DC again...DC is not fast or athletic enough to deal with JJ. The height and reach disadvantage is a real problem as well.... DC really has no real pathway to victory in the rematch.. Should be a repeat of the 1st fight..

    Not sure what DC can do to change things up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by richie360 View Post
    Most dogs have a real chance on this card. Jones was god awful in his last fight.
    I really agree 200 has some real live dogs... Browne/Edgar/Cormier/Enrique/Lesnar

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    Quote Originally Posted by agendaman View Post
    JIBBY whatever happened to that josh knows guy banned broke or also I like nunes here thoughts
    I think Nunes is the worst play of 200 jus my thoughts ... Vegas Dave jus put $1million on Tate highest sports bet ever made !

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    All good BJ, sometimes we all see fights a bit differently.. Perhaps JJ didn't look better then ever, I was wrong.. You're a strong capper BJ and I always enjoy reading your posts..

    Yep, for JJ being out for so long I thought he performed well though against OSP.. Considering ring rust, timing, pressure, etc.. and all that.. He was training to fight DC and not OSP as well for that fight..

    I think he takes it to DC again...DC is not fast or athletic enough to deal with JJ. The height and reach disadvantage is a real problem as well.... DC really has no real pathway to victory in the rematch.. Should be a repeat of the 1st fight..

    Not sure what DC can do to change things up??
    Its a bigger upsets if DC beats jones than bisping beats rockhold. DC are worse in all categories, and jon jones hasnt looked vulnerable since he got rocked against machida in 2012. He is more or less invincible. I think he needs to KO jones to win. I cant see he win a decision taking bad judges decision which most likely are going in favour of the champ, like usual. DC must be a lot better for several rounds to pull this off. This is 2016 though, the year of the dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Its a bigger upsets if DC beats jones than bisping beats rockhold. DC are worse in all categories, and jon jones hasnt looked vulnerable since he got rocked against machida in 2012. He is more or less invincible. I think he needs to KO jones to win. I cant see he win a decision taking bad judges decision which most likely are going in favour of the champ, like usual. DC must be a lot better for several rounds to pull this off. This is 2016 though, the year of the dogs.

    100% disagree with that statement... Bisping couldn't beat any top 5 middleweight currently, and he luckily beat rockhold who was overconfident and better on the night , I would compare bispings win who was +600 or more to almost the level of Matt serras win over GSP . Guarantee if rockhold rematched him hypothetically next month he would absolutely merk bisping , jacare beats him, Yoel beats him, weidman beats him hell GSP is most likely fighting him next and should beat him... DC has never lost to ANYBODY other than jon Jones in a 5 round fight where he could've taken 2 rounds and 1 was extremely close rewatch the fight it was Jones closest contested fight since Gus ... DC beat every heavyweight , Barnett, big foot silva on trt, Roy Nelson in more of his prime , destroyed hendo, beat Gus , beat rumble ... He could literally be #1-3 p4p if Jones wasn't around , Jon missed a ton of action while Cormier fought and beat the best plus Jon looked like shit last fight this fight is extremely close , I'd say the 2 most skilled LHW in history I'd lean Jon 60/40 maximum and that's him at full potential , if he comes like last fight he could easily lose this

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    To be honest this fight card is pretty hard to cap the bookies gave shitty odds

    tate should win but -200 + is risky, she tends to get hit and Nunes is a hard hitter
    hunt -140 I was really liking but the more I think about it the more I'm scared lesnar can get him down and hunt will not be able to get up if lesnar is ontop
    aldo-Edgar literally a toss up, I'd lean Edgar since he's looked amazing lately , the first fight I scored it almost for Edgar.. He's gotten better and Aldo has looked worse he's young but has a ton of miles maybe he's peaked already ?
    Cain vs Browne both guys need a win probably the most in here career , I think Cain should merk him with wrestling and grinding but value sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    All good BJ, sometimes we all see fights a bit differently.. Perhaps JJ didn't look better then ever, I was wrong.. You're a strong capper BJ and I always enjoy reading your posts..

    Yep, for JJ being out for so long I thought he performed well though against OSP.. Considering ring rust, timing, pressure, etc.. and all that.. He was training to fight DC and not OSP as well for that fight..

    I think he takes it to DC again...DC is not fast or athletic enough to deal with JJ. The height and reach disadvantage is a real problem as well.... DC really has no real pathway to victory in the rematch.. Should be a repeat of the 1st fight..

    Not sure what DC can do to change things up??
    I think a lot of people felt he could win a decision by outwrestling Jones and holding him down in the first fight. He wasn't able to do this at all and I don't think that Jones' added mass will harm his TDD or ability to get up if he is taken down. That means Cormier will have to outstrike Jones for 5 rounds. Since he's the champ, judges could give him close rounds in route to a Decision (+410) or Split Decision Win (+945) but I think he's unlikely to finish Jones. My best guess is Jones by UD (something like 49-46) or possibly late finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    All good BJ, sometimes we all see fights a bit differently.. Perhaps JJ didn't look better then ever, I was wrong.. You're a strong capper BJ and I always enjoy reading your posts..

    Yep, for JJ being out for so long I thought he performed well though against OSP.. Considering ring rust, timing, pressure, etc.. and all that.. He was training to fight DC and not OSP as well for that fight..

    I think he takes it to DC again...DC is not fast or athletic enough to deal with JJ. The height and reach disadvantage is a real problem as well.... DC really has no real pathway to victory in the rematch.. Should be a repeat of the 1st fight..

    Not sure what DC can do to change things up??
    JJ wanted to go 5 rounds with OSP to be able to feel what a fight round 5 would be like with all his extra muscle. JJ had him badly rocked with a elbow to the back of the head late in the 4th, he knew it was iilegal but luckily the round was close to ending. OSP was done, JJ said no you're not, good guy Jon. He doesn't always win by decision. He wins by what ever the hell he wants to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChael View Post
    JJ wanted to go 5 rounds with OSP to be able to feel what a fight round 5 would be like with all his extra muscle. JJ had him badly rocked with a elbow to the back of the head late in the 4th, he knew it was iilegal but luckily the round was close to ending. OSP was done, JJ said no you're not, good guy Jon. He doesn't always win by decision. He wins by what ever the hell he wants to.
    Yep.. I got JJ by eye poke in this rematch, DC's retina gets ruined.. ...

    Actually if the ref is big on point deductions for eye pokes that could be something to consider in this fight now that I think about it.. JJ eye pokes everyone he fights pretty much.. He always fights with open hands at distance... That could certainly effect the Unanimous Decision prop..

    JJ also likes those front knee kicks so DC better be ready for straight front low knee strikes. I think DC has good knees though so that shouldn't be a concern..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Yep.. I got JJ by eye poke in this rematch, DC's retina gets ruined.. ...

    Actually if the ref is big on point deductions for eye pokes that could be something to consider in this fight now that I think about it.. JJ eye pokes everyone he fights pretty much.. He always fights with open hands at distance... That could certainly effect the Unanimous Decision prop..

    JJ also likes those front knee kicks so DC better be ready for straight front low knee strikes. I think DC has good knees though so that shouldn't be a concern..

    big john has been named the ref , Jones camp is filing a complaint

    big John is the ref who hates eye pokes the most , just the last card he was warning Elias theodorou multiple times during the fight and In-between rounds to close the hand or he'll take a point , this could definitely negatively effect the fight, big John would probably be the worst ref for Jon , plus DC knows about the leg oblique kicks he already said he's just going to bumrush Jon and see if he can take the pressure, his cardio didn't look great last fight, and to say Jones purposely made OSP fight go 5 rounds is laughable , mma fighters don't get paid by the hour they want to finish the fight , when you're in a fight mid battle you never once think oh I should coast this to a decision to get cage time .. Jones is imo the greatest ever but DC is being overlooked here , if value goes up on DC I'll go dog $ if not I'll stick with Jones Ina few parlays but this fight is a lot tougher then people are thinking here
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_RUDESTER View Post
    Going heavy on a 4 leg parlay
    Dos Anjos
    Jones
    Tate
    Ferguson

    Might add Cain as well.

    What do you think Jibby?
    I think Chiesa has a good chance at beating Ferguson. What are the odds on this parlay?
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