1. 02-07-16 08:53 AM #1
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    UFC Fight Night: Cowboy vs. Oliveira (February 21, 2016)



    FOX Sports 1, 9 p.m. ET
    Donald Cerrone vs. Alex Oliveira
    Derek Brunson vs. Roan Carneiro
    Cody Garbrandt vs. John Lineker
    Dennis Bermudez vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri
    Siyar Bahadurzada vs. Brandon Thatch
    Shane Campbell vs. James Krause

    FOX Sports 1, 7 p.m. ET
    Alex Garcia vs. Sean Strickland
    Chris Camozzi vs. Joe Riggs
    Oluwale Bamgbose vs. Daniel Sarafian
    Trevor Smith vs. Leonardo Augusto Guimaraes

    UFC Fight Pass, 5:15 p.m. ET
    Ashlee Evans-Smith vs. Marion Reneau
    Sarah Moras vs. Lauren Murphy
    Shamil Abdurakhimov vs. Anthony Hamilton
    Nathan Coy vs. Jonavin Webb

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  2. 02-07-16 12:53 PM #2
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    John Lineker for the win.. Been riding that guy for a while now and he almost never let's me down.. Gotta stick with Johny in this one!!! http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/John-Lineker-41906
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    Been riding that guy for a while now and he almost never let's me down
    Jibbby, please think before putting stuff like this down...
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  4. 02-07-16 01:22 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirinquads View Post
    Jibbby, please think before putting stuff like this down...
    Get your mind out of the gutter Miri... Sick bastard!!
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  5. 02-07-16 04:21 PM #5
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    yep Lineker looking solid IMO
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    Alex Oliveira is gonna destroy Cowboy by the way.. That dude is straight up scary...
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  7. 02-07-16 05:06 PM #7
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    I've heard Cowboy's having a lot of trouble putting weight on as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    yep Lineker looking solid IMO
    Lineker can get taken down as he was when he faced uncle creepy and ali bagatinouv. In the bagatinouv fight he was taken down in all rounds. In the mccall only once. Garbrandts takedown is very quick but getting takedowns on brimage and briones is quite different from getting one in on lineker which moves better and has a better sense of judging distanse. Both Briones and Brimage swings wildly and never uses angles so the entry for garbrandt was there all day. I see garbrandt having more problems taking lineker down, for two main reasons. One he is at a power disadvantage and probably has a tougher time setting up takedowns, second linekers guillotine . In his last two fights he was the better striker. From a technical standpoint he probably is the better striker in this matchup as well, but linekers power will be the difference one the feet. All though all things point to lineker it may be a pretty even fight so im not so sure this is a solid bet. But lineker is a little more savy on the feet, more durable, got the better chin, got the advantage of having more than one out, as he can win by both dec and KO. But no point of going over board on this one. Garbrandt by dec is an easy hedge as well so that may ultimately reduce potential loss significantly.
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    Have to agree that by decision is best hedge
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Alex Oliveira is gonna destroy Cowboy by the way.. That dude is straight up scary...
    I'm with you bro. I love the way Oliveira fights,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptakhan View Post
    I'm with you bro. I love the way Oliveira fights,
    Yep, I'll hammer that line if Oliveira comes out at + odds..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Yep, I'll hammer that line if Oliveira comes out at + odds..
    it has to be +odds right? +175?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptakhan View Post
    it has to be +odds right? +175?
    Tough call as Oliveira has had some strong recent showings.. Winner of his last 3 in the UFC.. I know Cowboy carries the big name but I think the odds makers will make this fight closer to even if I had to guess, but I do think Cowboy Cerrone will be the slight favorite..

    Maybe +175 for AO like you suggest, we'll see?..

    The question is does the general gambling public really know who Alex Oliveira is yet? Will the gambling masses begin to drive that Cowboy line up closer to fight time like I suspect?.. I think there will be heavy betting action going on with Cowboy leading up..

    I may elect to wait to place with AO as close to fight time as possible.. I will keep an eye on that line though and hold off for now when it comes out.. This could be one you sit on...

    He'll probably have a good size advantage on Cowboy also.. Dude can take a shot with the best of them standing and dish it out as well...

    He really gave it too Hallman in his last fight.. Blasted right thru KJ Noons standing also which is hard to do..
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    Oliveira looks like sage northcut from his back, one takedown from cerrone and the whole round is lost. If that happens one more time oliveira has lost the fight. And one has to wonder with a such a terrible guard game, cerrone would probably have a rather easy way to win by sub. Maybe oliveira by KO is the way to go? But how likely is that..
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  15. 02-08-16 01:37 AM #15
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    Maybe a good card.

    I think I see 2 locks at a glance.

    The rest will have plenty of time to think about.
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    Tough call as Oliveira has had some strong recent showings.. Winner of his last 3 in the UFC.. I know Cowboy carries the big name but I think the odds makers will make this fight closer to even if I had to guess, but I do think Cowboy Cerrone will be the slight favorite.
    Your guess is terrible. Cerronay will be minus high 200's
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirinquads View Post
    Jibbby, please think before putting stuff like this down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Tough call as Oliveira has had some strong recent showings.. Winner of his last 3 in the UFC.. I know Cowboy carries the big name but I think the odds makers will make this fight closer to even if I had to guess, but I do think Cowboy Cerrone will be the slight favorite.. Maybe +175 for AO like you suggest, we'll see?..

    The question is does the general gambling public really know who Alex Oliveira is yet? Will the gambling masses begin to drive that Cowboy line up closer to fight time like I suspect?.. I think there will be heavy betting action going on with Cowboy leading up..

    I may elect to wait to place with AO as close to fight time as possible.. I will keep an eye on that line though and hold off for now when it comes out.. This could be one you sit on...

    He'll probably have a good size advantage on Cowboy also.. Dude can take a shot with the best of them standing and dish it out as well...

    He really gave it too Hallman in his last fight.. Blasted right thru KJ Noons standing also which is hard to do..
    lol God I hope so!

    As Mirin says it will be -250 at best
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  19. 02-08-16 08:33 AM #19
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    Maybe jibby will offer you a line of -150

    Olivieira is straight up scary
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    ^^ Gotta bunch of fortune tellers on this thread I see.. What's your secrets you clowns?...

    Cowboy Cerrone will be the favorite.. -200's is a bit of a stretch though but we'll see.. I hope so!!!!!

    BJ Penn, Cowboy Cerrone doesn't like to grapple hump people for wins.. He's a tough guy that likes to come forward standing and bang.. The only problem is Oli is tougher, hits harder and is gonna put a hurting on Donald.. This is a bad match up for Donald Cowboy Belloni as he's gonna get his bell rung.....

    There's a new Cowboy in town and it ain't Donald Cerrone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    ^^ Gotta bunch of fortune tellers on this thread I see.. What's your secrets you clowns?...

    Cowboy Cerrone will be the favorite.. -200's is a bit of a stretch though but we'll see.. I hope so!!!!!

    BJ Penn, Cowboy Cerrone doesn't like to grapple hump people for wins.. He's a tough guy that likes to come forward standing and bang.. The only problem is Oli is tougher, hits harder and is gonna put a hurting on Donald.. This is a bad match up for Donald Cowboy Belloni as he's gonna get his bell rung.....

    There's a new Cowboy in town and it ain't Donald Cerrone..

    I never said that. I said that Oliveira absolutely sucks from guard. What cerrone choose to do about it, i dont know. He was also Koed in his last fight so maybe he will stand and trade a little bit and then take it to the ground. I do like to bet against people coming from title fights though. Unmotivated, and often lacks the will. Maybe this is a good spot for Oliveira.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    I never said that. I said that Oliveira absolutely sucks from guard. What cerrone choose to do about it, i dont know. He was also Koed in his last fight so maybe he will stand and trade a little bit and then take it to the ground. I do like to bet against people coming from title fights though. Unmotivated, and often lacks the will. Maybe this is a good spot for Oliveira.
    I'm not even sure how much Cerrone is training these days.. He's too busy being an adrenaline junky, getting in car accidents, jumping out of planes, wake boarding off giant water falls, etc.. I don't think Cowboy Cerrone is the type of fighter to get real hungry after a title shot loss anyways... I just don't think he cares that much.... He's gonna lose 2 in row now...
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    Jibby wanna do a vig free line for some pizza points?

    I think -160/+160 sounds fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy View Post
    Jibby wanna do a vig free line for some pizza points?

    I think -160/+160 sounds fair
    I'm just trying to build up my bet points again Beelz.. I'll gamble though.. I can only go 300 bet points right now and I'll put those aside..... Got stung with the card before last that I hedged the crap out of on the bookies and SBRsportsbook doesn't have MMA prop betting so the end result was I lost about 1200 bet points...

    I'll give you the -160 on Donald Cowboy Cerrone... Can you afford to lose 480 to my 300 betpoints? Just say yes and it's a done deal..
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    Chris Kamozzi vs Joe Riggs is an interesting tomato can match up?

    If Kamozzi can keep it standing he probably wins, if Joe Diesel can stay uninjured during the fight and get it to the ground then he probably wins.. Not sure which can to take in this one???? This really seems like a Bellator fight to me..

    Kinda leaning Chris Kamozzi though just because he's more durable.....

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    Loving Chris in this one. Joe Riggs needs to hang it up. His body is so brittle that his technical skills are even suffering. Plan on fading if the price is right
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    Loving Chris in this one. Joe Riggs needs to hang it up. His body is so brittle that his technical skills are even suffering. Plan on fading if the price is right
    Agreed.
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    Damn, we gotta wait 2 more weeks for this shiiit to go down.. We don't even get Bellator or WSOF this coming weekend.. ... This blows!!!

    I'm in no hurry to start capping this event.. There's gonna be some down time to kill.. If anybody wants to start a flame war and feels froggy then go right ahead, I'll be your huckleberry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I'm just trying to build up my bet points again Beelz.. I'll gamble though.. I can only go 300 bet points right now and I'll put those aside..... Got stung with the card before last that I hedged the crap out of on the bookies and SBRsportsbook doesn't have MMA prop betting so the end result was I lost about 1200 bet points...

    I'll give you the -160 on Donald Cowboy Cerrone... Can you afford to lose 480 to my 300 betpoints? Just say yes and it's a done deal..
    yes.
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    LOL^^ OK Beelz we have a deal it's on!!! Pay up after the fight...

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    Putting my neck out on the line and I will say Cowboy Cerrone will destroy Oliveria.. there's only one Cowboy in this town. Cowboy via Low Kicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChael View Post
    Putting my neck out on the line and I will say Cowboy Cerrone will destroy Oliveria.. there's only one Cowboy in this town. Cowboy via Leg Kicks.
    Putting your neck out there? Lol not too much...Cowboy should be favored by -300, the real cowboy does everything better then the counterfeit Brazilian cowboy, can't see anyway cerrone loses this matchup.
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    yeah, I'm not sure what everybody sees in Alex. Merritt was a bum, Noons is a one trick pony that its a can now, and Hallmann is a bottom feeder at best. Cerrone is certainly the better striker in this fight and his takedown defense has been tested against elite level fighters. Cerrone wins this one pretty easily. My only worry is him getting out-muscled, but he's still the better striker at range
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    yeah, I'm not sure what everybody sees in Alex. Merritt was a bum, Noons is a one trick pony that its a can now, and Hallmann is a bottom feeder at best. Cerrone is certainly the better striker in this fight and his takedown defense has been tested against elite level fighters. Cerrone wins this one pretty easily. My only worry is him getting out-muscled, but he's still the better striker at range
    Cowboy can beat him up on the feet, or go The even easier route and take him down and get the sub, should be finished no later then the 2nd round, .no worries in This one exept what the odds gonna be. Will be on cerrone, cerrone inside distance and cerrone by sub. Much easier fight then means fight, plus getting him on short notice
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    I think sub is a real possibility later in the fight, but I'm not sure if Cerrone won't destroy him enough on the feet to make him forget about going to the ground
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