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line is about right, its not a given to go the distance by any stretch, mighty mouse was hurt in the first meeting and both guys have improved, could very well go dobson by KO or mighty mouse by sub. mighty mouse has been finishing is opponents lately as well. I believe Dodson can stay off his back for most of the fight and could win by KO or decision.Originally Posted by JIBBBY
I beg to differ Josh, neither John Dodson or Mighty Mouse have ever been stopped in an pro MMA fight before the final bell... John Dodsons 6 losses were all by decision... Mighty Mouse went to decision in his only 2 losses also.. Neither has ever been stopped. These are the facts and they are undisputed..
I see no reason why this fight shouldn't go the distance considering the history and the durability that both of these fighters have shown.. I see it coming down to a point contest...
Most likely outcomes -
Mighty Mouse wins by decision -
1011 Johnson wins by 5 round decision -135
or
John Dodson wins by decision -
1007 Dodson wins by 5 round decision +625
Did you watch the first fight, John dodson almost knocked him out, these are the two top guys in the division, offcourse the rest of the scrubs can't finish either one. John dodson has the most power in the division, and he matches Johnsons speed. Dodson is the only guy in the division that can finish Johnson, and Johnson is the only guy that can finish Dodson in a fight. line set at -170 is perfect, no value in betting either side, its slightly more likely to go to dec, but i don't think its worth a bet.
I think the value is on the under. Johnson is become more and more of a finishers the first five. And Dodson has fight finishing power. 25 minutes is a long time. I like the value on the under.
I did see the first fight but don't remember Johnson almost being out... I'll have to watch it over again..
Anyways, I don't see either knocking each other out to be honest... If you're sold on Dodson's power you should wait for the KO prop to come out.. Sure the odds will be massive for Dodson to knock out Mighty Mouse anyways.. Probably +800 or so...
I am waiting, but it wont be much higher then what "in the distance" is, becuase if dodson finishes him, it will be by KO, not by submission, everyone knows that, will be very close to in the distance prop. mighty mouse won't knock out dodson, offcourse, he doesn't have the power to, his only chance is by submission or by decision, his goal is gonna be trying to get dodson to the mate.
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Little Johnson went 5 rounds with the Undisputed, 135 pound Champ..
Bleacher reports analysis and betting predictions - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...nd-predictions
Combatpress predictions and breakdowns - http://combatpress.com/2015/08/toe-t...d-predictions/
Fukk it! I'll hop on the Dodson train. *Mic drop*
If it was a three round fight, he woulda whooped him. Let's hope Dodson can take a page out of Lawler's book, and just keep smashing him until he can take no more, even when Lawler was down on the cards.
I'll gamble on Dodson at those +400 odds.. Saw his interview and says he has improved since, has a game plan, and gave alot of excuses for losing that first fight.. Could be alot of hog wash but I'll gamble on his word.. 1st fight was respectable and close enough to give him a try this second go around..
I hit him already at +360 when the line first came out and regretting that I didn't wait.
UFC 191 - Flyweight 5 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV Sat 9/5 1001 John Dodson +400 o4½ -200 11:59PM 1002 Demetrious Johnson -500 u4½ +170
More props came out today - Thinking about giving these 2 a try.. Really like Felder to beat the shiiiit out of Ross Pearson and probably before the final bell...
1037 Dodson wins by TKO/KO +700
1533 Felder wins by TKO/KO +120
Last edited by JIBBBY; 08-31-15 at 08:50 PM.
If he's going to win, what's the problem champ?I'll gamble on Dodson at those +400 odds.. Saw his interview and says he has improved since, has a game plan, and gave alot of excuses for losing that first fight.. Could be alot of hog wash but I'll gamble on his word.. 1st fight was respectable and close enough to give him a try this second go around..
I hit him already at +360 when the line first came out and regretting that I didn't wait.
UFC 191 - Flyweight 5 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV Sat 9/5 1001 John Dodson +400 o4½ -200 11:59PM 1002 Demetrious Johnson -500 u4½ +170
Really liking Nazareno straight up.
Felder going to win in first round
You know Arlovski was dropped in that last Travis Browne fight.. He survived it though... I just think Mir is gonna put him to sleep especially if AA starts coming forward wrecklesslly like he did against Travis Browne..
Here is the fight again.. AA fights with his chin straight up..
https://plus.google.com/photos/10085...60273473154238
And you link a gif where Arlovski shows outstanding defense..
Here is the perfect fight to rob everyone taking Dodson. This line is way out of whack. There isn't a chance in hell he wins a decision cause everyone and their mother will be on him and those juicy odds. You take Dodson here fellas u better pray for a knockout. It is very possible to get one but there is no way he wins a decision. All close rounds will go to mighty Mouse even if he doesn't win them. Cmon man -500. Mighty is good but Dodson is right there with him. -200 would have been the correct line and maybe not even that high.
i really hope Mir wins. A Mir Werdum matchup could possible be a great fight. Mir would have no problem going to the ground with Werdum. Anyone else forget about it.
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It was a good defensive move slipping that telegraphed straight right from Travis.. Lol... Remember Arlovski is best friends with Travis Browne and they have sparred on many occasions.. I'm quite sure AA has seen that punch coming 100 times in sparring...And you link a gif where Arlovski shows outstanding defense..
Anyways, if AA tries to come forward with that chin up against Mir it will be a repeat of what happened to him in that Fedor fight years back.. AA needs to tuck that chin more IMO when being aggressive... Mir has learned to sit down on his punches lately..
Frank Mir can slip punches and actually has decent head movement and timing himself as shown in recent fights..
Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-01-15 at 04:12 PM.
#AndNew
#AndNew
That would be nice at the current odds!!!!! Continues to go up... At +425 now and climbing..
UFC 191 - Flyweight 5 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV Sat 9/5 1001 John Dodson +425 o4½ -185 11:59PM 1002 Demetrious Johnson -550 u4½ +160
You load up on that and it hits you're walking away a big winner for sure at the end of the night!!! I'm thinking of reloading on JD again myself.. Mighty Mouse got tagged a few times in that first fight and looks vulnerable....
KO prop +700, Dodson straight +425..
For a guy that arguably won the first 3 rounds in their first fight I find these odds to be way off... I'm sure Greg Jackson has him coached and trained up going into this second fight...
Good luck UNC I'm with ya pal!!!
Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-01-15 at 05:25 PM.
Demetrious Johnson's take on his opponent.
Things are getting a bit heated."Some people have to talk themselves up, we call them ‘mental midgets,'" said Johnson, who won their first matchup in 2013 via unanimous decision. "‘Oh, I'm a killer, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, I punch hard.' I don't need to tell any one of you guys that I can do what I can do. I'll just show it to you guys and if you want a little sneak peak, come watch me work out. That's how I do my thing."
Dodson has done a fair bit of trash talking in the runup to the fight, and at a Monday media event in Las Vegas, Dodson claimed he would talk to Johnson all throughout the fight come Saturday night.
That bit of info prompted Johnson to compare Dodson to a tiny dog that is annoying your whole neighborhood.
"You know when you walk through a neighborhood and someone has a chihuahua that keeps on barking?" asked Johnson, who is looking to make his seventh successful flyweight title defense. "And you turn around and it tuns back to the porch, and you finally get the chance to kick the chihuahua back to its porch. Then everybody else in the whole neighborhood goes, 'thank you so much.'"
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/8/31...on-to-a-little
This go around, we call them real life midgets. That goes for you too, Mini Mouse."Some people have to talk themselves up, we call them ‘mental midgets,'" said Johnson
And to that drivel Jibbby, that's the exact damn thing you proved in your post. If you look at AA's recent fights (Which you most likely hasn't as usual) you will notice that he has started to correct these things, and has much better defense when coming into the pocket. But you're too stubborn / dumb to realize these things, as usual. I guess you will have to wait til after the fight.. again as usual.
All that said, Mir RD 1 +350 is a good bet. Heavyweight and what not. Took it
Man September and October are slow months, only 2 events in each month
yeah noticeable dropoff in events this year, no fun
Are you confused again Miri because you were just praising how great AA's defense is, what a bad style match up this for Mir, etc...., bla bla bla.. Now you post this garbage completely contradicting yourself..
For the love of God man make up your mind on who you like to win this fight Arlovski or Mir?
I like you Miri but you're a twisted little twit at times
How can you say round 1 for Mir is a good bet when you typed out crap like this below?
Your own words from post #64 - (copy and paste Miri)
Yep. People still think Arlovski has a bad chin. Arlovski has quicker and better boxing, and more punching power. I don't know if people are expecting Mir to take Arlovski down, but AA has some of, if not the best TDD in the HW division.
Mir might have more confidence in his standup now, but he isn't fighting Duffee that will flail at him like he's a fifth grade girl, or TRT, chinless Bigfoot here.
Awful matchup for Mir.
Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-02-15 at 10:40 AM.
You can bet Arlovski and Mir round one Jibbby. By this magic strategy, you can profit if Arlovski wins, OR IF MIR WINS IN ROUND 1 which is the only way he wins.
Amazing stuff huh?
Arlovski's game plan as hinted by Greg Jackson will be to get Mir into the deeper rounds where he will be severely cardio challenged..
It's gonna either be Mir early or AA late to finish most likely if that game plan is implemented successfully...
1121 Arlovski wins in round 1 +200
1115 Mir wins in round 1 +325
vs's the KO prop odds..
1133 Arlovski wins by TKO/KO +110 (the smarter bet if the fight extends for AA
1129 Mir wins by TKO/KO +265 (probably not gonna happen after round 1 as Mir will start to gas out)
As far as Arlovski's chin goes, he ate some bombs in this fight.
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Francisco Rivera wins by TKO/KO +315
^^^Sanity AA was literally saved by the bell at the end of round 1 in that Rumble fight.. Rumble was a blown up 205er in that fight as well.. Just fast forward to minute 8:35.. Still a miracle that fight went the distance...
John Lineker has never been KO'd in 32 pro fights.. I don't even think he's been rocked in a fight yet? What makes you think Rivera will be the first one to put his lights out?
Tough KO prop bet Kush IMO even though Rivera swings for the fences in his fights and has 8 Ko's in 11 of his wins.....http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/John-Lineker-41906
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