1. 09-02-14 04:32 PM #36
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    Lentz +150 against Charle Oliveira? Hmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Lentz +150 against Charle Oliveira? Hmmmm
    You think Lentz has improved enough to make it worth a bet? Oliveira clowned him last time.
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    Lentz was trainin like a chump back then. Hes made significant strides since moving down on weight and going to ATT. Plus oliveira seems a lot more fragile nowadays.
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    Not to mention oliviera has been doing well and presumably improving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmaed View Post
    Not to mention oliviera has been doing well and presumably improving.
    Thts just a generic statement, could say the same about lentz!
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    Oliviera is a hard guy to grind against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Lentz was trainin like a chump back then. Hes made significant strides since moving down on weight and going to ATT. Plus oliveira seems a lot more fragile nowadays.
    Yeah, I read that article too.

    Lentz has definitely improved, but I'm not sure if its that much. Seems like a tough matchup for him.
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    Absolutely agree tht stylistically it doesnt bode well. He is going to have to stun /hurt oliveira earlyish on in order to prevent oliveira From tooling him off his back and reversing position...locking in triangles etc,,, perhaps the chances of lentz hurting oliveira to slow him down isnt high enough to warrant a play at these odds come to think of it. And he hasnt faced anybody anywhere near as dangerous off their back as Oliveira is since their last fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdeal View Post
    Carefully constructed scenario to get him out of his match with Nunya..
    LOL Bumdeal.... Maybe Nunya wins it all now.. I did post my picks prior to jumping ship but then the card got scrambled anyways..

    PS.. I'm leaning towards Oliveira in this one... I don't think Lentz can beat him even after improving like V said... Tough match up for Lentz.. I'm looking at parlay'ing him up with Derick Lewis in a 2 teamer myself.....
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    Im also not properly considering the level of fighter tht Has been making oliveira look "fragile". At the end of the day those guys tht made him look like a bitch were swanson and cerrone which is nothing tombe ashamed about obviously. My initial inkling was tht lentz could repeat what edgar did but again perhaps they are still much further apart in terms of standup ability (especially footwork) and submission defense then what is needed.
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    took chuck -135 -140 -145. and ovr 2.5 -128
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    Liddell?
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    i've made alot bettin chucky aloe vera fights
    still cant beleive i took iceman vs rampage
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  14. 09-02-14 07:17 PM #49
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    I have a solution to judging? All main card fights should just be 3-10 minute rds, championship fights 5-10 minute rds for ppv at least
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    Joe Lauzon at +120 is a very tempting bet.... Thinking of pulling the trigger on that one.. Need to cap it a bit more still...
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    I'm on Lauzon.
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    Lauzon is the smart bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Liddell?
    I didn't know he was back. What's the line and who he is fighting? I don't know who is he fighting but there is probably a ton of value on him at anything better than -1000.
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    Oliveria is way too much for Lentz. Lentz is solid but Oliveria is too much for him on the ground.

    Lentz will look to keep this standing and go for cheap TDs at the end of rounds. Oliveria beat him as a boy last time. I think Oliveria gained a lot of confidence in the Frankie fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marzwoody View Post
    Lauzon is the smart bet.
    Maybe Marz, Joe did go the distance with guys like Jim Miller and Michael Johnson recently so he's a gamer.. Well rounded seasoned vet for sure..

    Luckily for Joe he's not fighting a guy in Cheisa that has big KO power. Cheisa is a ground guy and probably gets top position when it goes there which is never a good thing... Standing Joe might get the better of Cheisa though.. Joe is not a Rummy on the ground but off his back I don't think he can sub out Cheisa.. Tough fight to call as I've been trying to cap this one for the last hour or so.. Eeeeks!!!

    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Joe-Lauzon-4923

    If anything this should be a good fight standing or on the ground.. At +120 it's still worth the play on Joe Lauzon I think.. I'm with ya on this one Marz...
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    Lauzon is the smart bet? I disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdeal View Post
    Lauzon is the smart bet? I disagree.
    The marz and JIBBBY smart bet.
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    I can't believe Chuck Liddell is back... unreal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    The marz and JIBBBY smart bet.
    MD, my buddy and old pal how the hell ya been?

    I didn't say it was a smart bet MD I just said I was in... I'm with Mars though on this one...

    Joe will battle... I think it's an even bet fight and with that being said you gotta go with the odds on dog for value... THAT'S JOE!!! +120

    Oh and Joe has two hands and has been training really hard lately.. Lol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    MD, my buddy and old pal how the hell ya been?

    I didn't say it was smart bet MD I just said I was in... I'm with Mars though on this one...

    Joe will battle... Oh and he has two hands and has been training really hard.. Lol..
    Wheres Sider when you need him....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    Wheres Sider when you need him....
    Yeah, where is Keyboard? I do owe that guy an apology.. I hit the Asian humor a little too hard in the past on this forum.. I need to even out the playing field when attacking races....

    Still trying to figure out your race Sac???... Pedonese maybe?


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    Derrick Lewis vs Matt Mitrione -

    I personally think Derrick Lewis is the best bet on the card even being the favorite at -160..

    Matt "Meat Head" Mitrione is not going to knock out Derrick Lewis standing in this one.. I really can't see how Meat Head can win this fight other then out working, keeping it standing and winning on points. Don't see that happening though!!! Derrick Lewis has been steadily improving fight to fight and is a BEAST.. Matt should get dropped standing or just beat on laying off his back thru 3...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    MD, my buddy and old pal how the hell ya been?

    I didn't say it was a smart bet MD I just said I was in... I'm with Mars though on this one...

    Joe will battle... I think it's an even bet fight and with that being said you gotta go with the odds on dog for value... THAT'S JOE!!! +120

    Oh and Joe has two hands and has been training really hard lately.. Lol..
    Joe also has hands and will throw them
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Matt "Meat Head" Mitrione is not going to knock out Derrick Lewis standing in this one.. I really can't see how Meat Head can win this fight other then out working, keeping it standing and winning on points. Don't see that happening though!!! Derrick Lewis has been steadily improving fight to fight and is a BEAST.. Matt should get dropped standing or just beat on laying off his back thru 3...

    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Matt-Mitrione-49519
    Well obviously...
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    JIBBBY is cerebral as penetrate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    The marz and JIBBBY smart bet.
    Im in that caterogry as well.
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    Derek Lewis is a fuckin beast. He pleasantly surprised me in his Rosholt fight, I could not believe Rosholt had no success getting him to the ground. What a great dog that was, I think it was around +180. Delicious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdeal View Post
    Derek Lewis is a fuckin beast. He pleasantly surprised me in his Rosholt fight, I could not believe Rosholt had no success getting him to the ground. What a great dog that was, I think it was around +180. Delicious.
    Lol.
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    A fuckin black beast. Get it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdeal View Post
    Derek Lewis is a fuckin beast. He pleasantly surprised me in his Rosholt fight, I could not believe Rosholt had no success getting him to the ground. What a great dog that was, I think it was around +180. Delicious.
    Asian?
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