1. 07-09-14 02:48 PM #1
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    Canelo vs Lara

    I didn't see anyone talking about this fight, so I figured I'd start a thread. I really think this is a bad matchup for Canelo. Canelo is going to have problems with this slick southpaw that is like Trout V2. People keep talking about the difference between their performances vs Angulo, but Canelo is not super aggressive like Angulo and they will be in a 22' ring, which will benefit Lara. If he tries to box with Lara like he did with Mayweather, Canelo is in trouble. I see value in Lara +145, as I believe he is the better boxer. My only issue is that I can't see Lara getting a decision against Golden Boy's big star/cash cow, unless he completely dominates. Especially after watching Lara vs P. Williams, I don't have any confidence in the crooked judges.

    Let me know what you guys think.
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  2. 07-09-14 03:45 PM #2
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    Canelo
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  3. 07-09-14 05:37 PM #3
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    I just can't root for Canelo. He seems too much like a pretty boy and I think it's ridiculous that he demanded that they fight at 155. If he can't make weight, he needs to go up to middleweight and fight GGG, Cotto, or Quillin.
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  4. 07-09-14 05:46 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew0585 View Post
    I didn't see anyone talking about this fight, so I figured I'd start a thread. I really think this is a bad matchup for Canelo. Canelo is going to have problems with this slick southpaw that is like Trout V2. People keep talking about the difference between their performances vs Angulo, but Canelo is not super aggressive like Angulo and they will be in a 22' ring, which will benefit Lara. If he tries to box with Lara like he did with Mayweather, Canelo is in trouble. I see value in Lara +145, as I believe he is the better boxer. My only issue is that I can't see Lara getting a decision against Golden Boy's big star/cash cow, unless he completely dominates. Especially after watching Lara vs P. Williams, I don't have any confidence in the crooked judges.

    Let me know what you guys think.
    Pretty much my thoughts. It goes the distance and u get possibly screwed. I usually don't usually get into these kinds of comparison's cause most are silly but he gave Trout a much tougher test than Canelo did.
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  5. 07-09-14 07:00 PM #5
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    Lara at +160 now. Might make a small play on him.
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  6. 07-09-14 07:20 PM #6
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    The message I'm getting from Canelo is he's trying to outbox Lara... which is a horrible idea.
    He also feels like Lara will rush him for some reason. Lara said he'd start fast....=/= rushing him... just throwing more than usual instead of slowly getting into his pace.

    I also hear he's having problems making weight....

    I have Lara outboxing Canelo... but this is going to be one of those cards that'll be shady IMO.
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  7. 07-09-14 09:37 PM #7
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    Lara all day. Think he should be -170.
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  8. 07-09-14 10:09 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Lara all day. Think he should be -170.
    Lara all day in a fair fight with fair judges. I'm thinking Canelo will get the nod even though everyone will say Lara should have won.
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  9. 07-12-14 06:20 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    Lara all day in a fair fight with fair judges. I'm thinking Canelo will get the nod even though everyone will say Lara should have won.
    This seems to be the consensus among the pundits. I didn't like Canelo's activity level in his last fight, he seems to tire and let off the gas.
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  10. 07-12-14 07:42 AM #10
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    Lara is up to +200 and by DEC +302. I've also seen articles saying Canelo is going to try and outbox him. And that he is totally drained trying to make weight. Going with Lara and expecting to get screwed.
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  11. 07-12-14 07:52 AM #11
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    Thinking Canelo, but value definitely on Lara.
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  12. 07-12-14 10:11 AM #12
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    Im on Canelo -175 around 5units. But i hate the guy!!!
    Lara might need to KO or win by a landslide to get the nod.... Lara is certainly good enough but its a hard task.
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  13. 07-12-14 11:11 AM #13
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    its gonna be a draw and everyone is gonna get screwed
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  14. 07-12-14 03:28 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by The HOFF View Post
    Lara is up to +200 and by DEC +302. I've also seen articles saying Canelo is going to try and outbox him. And that he is totally drained trying to make weight. Going with Lara and expecting to get screwed.
    id throw everyone of these articles out. When i hear a guy trained harder then at anytime in his career and had the best camp, i run like a little girl.
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  15. 07-12-14 05:04 PM #15
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    Fellas where can i stream this fight
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  16. 07-12-14 06:18 PM #16
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    ^^^looking for same thing
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  17. 07-12-14 06:22 PM #17
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    Same places as every other sporting event in the last 5 years.

    Spend 10 seconds searching "stream" in this forum and you'll find it.
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  18. 07-12-14 06:51 PM #18
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    firstrow, atdhe and vipbox, are all shit....
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  19. 07-12-14 07:04 PM #19
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    Canelo by decision at +175 is the best value bet. If it's remotely close then the judges will be swayed and give it to Canelo. Lara needs to win overwhelmingly to get the decision nod. Lara is also used to being screwed by judges.
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  20. 07-12-14 07:31 PM #20
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    fellas quick before they take this link down

    http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?...28&part=sports

    then go to the option for box nation flash
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  21. 07-12-14 09:17 PM #21
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    Canelo Dec/Tech Dec now at +116
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  22. 07-12-14 09:46 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldscho0led View Post
    Canelo Dec/Tech Dec now at +116
    Way smarter to just take decision at +160. Technical decision doesn't factor in enough to give up 44 cents.

    Actually, any decision is +153 at dimes, whatever book you're using is robbing you.
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  23. 07-12-14 10:53 PM #23
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  24. 07-12-14 11:03 PM #24
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    If anyone can post round by round updates I will give them some points.
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  25. 07-12-14 11:06 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by UFC_FAN View Post
    If anyone can post round by round updates I will give them some points.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...and-highlights
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  26. 07-12-14 11:08 PM #26
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    Lara tooling him. Probably down 2 rounds to 1 still
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  27. 07-12-14 11:08 PM #27
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    i wonder if Cris Weidman could teach Canelo how to cut off a ring
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  28. 07-12-14 11:14 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Untied View Post
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...and-highlights
    Lol thats what i was looking at but figured i could trust you degenerates to give more of an accurate analysis
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  29. 07-12-14 11:44 PM #29
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    Way to give the fight away in the last 30 seconds of every round, Lara
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  30. 07-12-14 11:47 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyRobby View Post
    Canelo by decision at +175 is the best value bet. If it's remotely close then the judges will be swayed and give it to Canelo. Lara needs to win overwhelmingly to get the decision nod. Lara is also used to being screwed by judges.
    Boom goes the dynamite!
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  31. 07-12-14 11:48 PM #31
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    Canelo vs. Cotto next please
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  32. 07-12-14 11:49 PM #32
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    How was that fight +600 after the 12th?
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  33. 07-13-14 12:10 AM #33
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    thank god there was no mma tonight. nice break
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  34. 07-13-14 01:11 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyRobby View Post
    Boom goes the dynamite!
    The funny thing is it wasn't even remotely close.....that's a fill in before the fight.
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