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    World Series of Fighting 4: Spong vs Deanda (August 10th)



    Main Card
    Tyrone Spong vs. Angel DeAnda
    Tyson Griffin vs. Gesias Cavalcante
    Ray Sefo vs. Dave Huckaba
    Marlon Moraes vs. Brandon Hempleman
    Keon Caldwell vs. Nick Newell

    Preliminary Card
    Gerald Harris vs. Jorge Santiago
    Antonio McKee vs. Lewis Gonzalez
    Lew Polley vs. Hans Stringer
    Jared Papazian vs. John Robles
    Isaac Gutierrez vs. Victor Valenzuela
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    Just started 'capping this today, figured I'd start a thread so we have somewhere to discuss.

    If there's a line for that John Robles fight, I will fade him because his name reminds me of Andrew Robl. F-ck Andrew Robl.
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    i know rey sefo is running this organization, but really, he's on the main card instead of santiago - harris?

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    Spong ITD
    Sefo ITD. Huckaba is a garbage stand up fighter with no ground game like Sefo. Sefos ability to see the finer openings against someone that slow and bad----> Sefo KO/TKO
    Griffin/JZ: I'd lean towards Griffin. It seems that both are done fighting at the highest level...but I could see Griffin getting the dec. depending on the line...Ill be in this or not.

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    Id feel pretty good about betting marlon moraes and tyrone sponge. Sefo would make me a little nervous. He is of course a great kickboxer but he is 42 years old and coming in off a long layoff. Theres also a huge difference in mma experience.

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    Predicting spong will be -zillion kabillion

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    If there's a line for that John Robles fight, I will fade him because his name reminds me of Andrew Robl. F-ck Andrew Robl.
    Seriously, what a oyster. Did you ever see this hand?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct4S-5NlxAQ


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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Seriously, what a oyster. Did you ever see this hand?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct4S-5NlxAQ


    I'm convinced that some people are just gifted with infinite luck.
    Andrew Robl is a luckbox, and a massive nit. The GoAT human being/poker player, Tony G, once spent an entire night calling him "Robl Cop". Can't make this shit up.

    You ever see Elky play? He runs like the sun, possibly the luckiest poker player of all time, but he plays so magnificently that I can't dislike him for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmaed View Post
    Id feel pretty good about betting marlon moraes and tyrone sponge. Sefo would make me a little nervous. He is of course a great kickboxer but he is 42 years old and coming in off a long layoff. Theres also a huge difference in mma experience.
    I concur. I have seen all of Sefo's fights. He has looked very disappointing in MMA. I would not be surprised if he lost to Huckabum. I'm still looking into Hempleman. Santiago, Newell & Spong should win their matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Andrew Robl is a luckbox, and a massive nit. The GoAT human being/poker player, Tony G, once spent an entire night calling him "Robl Cop". Can't make this shit up.

    You ever see Elky play? He runs like the sun, possibly the luckiest poker player of all time, but he plays so magnificently that I can't dislike him for it.
    I've played with Elky. But I've never seen him on TV, so I don't know anything about his perception. He doesn't show a lot of hands. His tournament book is probably the best NLHE book out there, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    I've played with Elky. But I've never seen him on TV, so I don't know anything about his perception. He doesn't show a lot of hands. His tournament book is probably the best NLHE book out there, IMO.
    Raiser's Edge? I've never read it but I've heard good things.

    Guy is a prodigy, I'd consider him one of the most brilliant poker minds in the game's history. Phil Galfond has a way of explaining mindsets and thought processes in a way that people can understand fluently, and he gets much acclaim for that, but Elky might be on a different level as a poker thinker. Granted, they play different games, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Raiser's Edge? I've never read it but I've heard good things.

    Guy is a prodigy, I'd consider him one of the most brilliant poker minds in the game's history. Phil Galfond has a way of explaining mindsets and thought processes in a way that people can understand fluently, and he gets much acclaim for that, but Elky might be on a different level as a poker thinker. Granted, they play different games, but still.
    Hahaha No.

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    Elky used to play a mean starcraft game

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    Lines are out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The iron sheik View Post
    Predicting spong will be -zillion kabillion
    Yup.

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    no JZ love? had to make a play on him. He has some slick subs, subbed out Rani Yaya and Tyson almost got armbarred by efrain who isnt a great guard player.





    bet the under +180 both guys have weak chins
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    doing a double take, love that under 2.5 at +180 on tyson

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    I bet JZ at those odds as well, Didn't look too awful even under fire in his last fight, and kept the composure.

    Taking a stab at the under as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirinquads View Post
    I bet JZ at those odds as well, Didn't look too awful even under fire in his last fight, and kept the composure.

    Taking a stab at the under as well
    Huge JZ fan from his days in japan. Watch the hustle show series on youtube. JZ is really a good guy and real dude. He's not old just got a lot of shots on the chin. So if he loses the under should hit.

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    nothing to do with the thread but god I love soccer stomps


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    To be honest, I think Tyson takes a decision pretty often. I don't really see him KOing Cavalcante with any degree of consistency.

    I think the line is set really well, though. No value on either side. F-cking Kalikas. <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    To be honest, I think Tyson takes a decision pretty often. I don't really see him KOing Cavalcante with any degree of consistency.

    I think the line is set really well, though. No value on either side. F-cking Kalikas. <3
    I have a hard time not seeing the value in JZ if this fight goes the distance. Given he is more skilled everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    To be honest, I think Tyson takes a decision pretty often. I don't really see him KOing Cavalcante with any degree of consistency.

    I think the line is set really well, though. No value on either side. F-cking Kalikas. <3
    You think Tyson Griffin should be -300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    I have a hard time not seeing the value in JZ if this fight goes the distance. Given he is more skilled everywhere.
    I don't agree with you there. Griffin will have a big cardio edge, he's much more patient and efficient on the feet than he used to be, and his wrestling should be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I don't agree with you there. Griffin will have a big cardio edge, he's much more patient and efficient on the feet than he used to be, and his wrestling should be better.
    JZ background IS wrestling. Tyson isnt so much better at wrestling than him that it's going to win him a decision. Cardio really comes down the the training camps which no one knows. No way on earth you can Say Griffin has a big cardio edge. Unless you got inside info no one else has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirinquads View Post
    You think Tyson Griffin should be -300?
    That's not how a line works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirinquads View Post
    I bet JZ at those odds as well, Didn't look too awful even under fire in his last fight, and kept the composure.

    Taking a stab at the under as well
    Jz is tough to knock out and tough to submit. Tyson Griffin rarely submits anyone. I don't see TG stopping him. Maybe Gesias can catch him and knock him out but I think the fight most likely goes the distance.

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    Nick Newell is the guy with one arm. He is the favorite as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmaed View Post
    Nick Newell is the guy with one arm. He is the favorite as well.
    what is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmaed View Post
    Nick Newell is the guy with one arm. He is the favorite as well.
    Holy crap, you're right! Dude's 9-0 as well... how can this be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Das Jax View Post
    Holy crap, you're right! Dude's 9-0 as well... how can this be?
    I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.
    We're all trolling MD. All of us. All the time. Every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.
    lmao

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