[ithinkiamgood]

Shields at +money looks like such a sucker bet imo.... Rays are 10-2 last 12 finally playing some good ball and lost the last home series. I think they win this series and win tonight..Shields was dominant in April, hes looked like shit since then lol If you bet the over in Shield starts from May until now you would be 10-2 now add in the fact that TB bats are hot. Rays and over looks pretty damn good if you ask me.Also expect public to be backing shields here this is just a no brainer. 1-1 at worst and should be a sweep.

[ithinkiamgood]

Shields has made 11 starts on road, 9 overs, 1 under, 1 push

[posey]

Yeah, and the Royals won 14 of the last 17 road starts of Shields.

[ithinkiamgood]

Yeah, and the Royals won 14 of the last 17 road starts of Shields.

They are 8-3 this year on road starts of shields, doesn't scare me if Rays were cold it would

[RavensFan2k3]

Royals win!

[Bostongambler]

Go with hotter team here.

[ithinkiamgood]

In fairness i've been terrible in bases this year.. tennis and world cup is saving me gl fellas

[Big Bear]

so are you taking Royals or Rays?

does Shields get revenge on his old team?

Rays are hot but Ordorizzi is a gas can and walks too many hitters.

[bluetooth3]

Lean is with Royals here. Ordorizzi does walk too many people and he doesn't benefit from a lot of run support. Rays played a late game last night. Royals played an early game. Got into St Petes way before the rays did. Royals at + seems like the better play

Other then that, pretty tough card imo

[ithinkiamgood]

Well Rays gave Anibal his worst start of the year the other night (7 er 5inn) the bats are hot

Porcello has been amazing and got lit up(7er 5inn 11 hits) by these Rays, and looking at what you said bear I think the over should be an easy play for you

Keep in mind Porcello had a 24 inning scoreless streak going into the tampa game and got rocked!!

Taking Rays and over , might go extra on over or just flat still deciding

[posey]

Porcello had been amazing, yes, but don't forget he had not only 3 games with 0 ER in a row, don't forget that the last two of them he went the full distance of 9.0 IP back to back. No surprise that it would backfire sooner or later. And don't forget also that Porcello averaged an ERA of 6.00 in his 5 previous starts before he didn't give up one ER in the mentioned 3 games. Porcello pitched above his abilities and the Rays sent him back to earth. Nothing else.

[ithinkiamgood]

I want to go huge on the over the more I look into it looks too easy

[posey]

Yeah, but Odorizzi has been very good at home:
- 2.70 ERA
- .189 BAA
- 0.54 HR/9

[ithinkiamgood]

Posey what you think about Rays tt over? appreciate your thoughts bud

[ithinkiamgood]

Okay so shields road games are going over 90 pct, he hasn't looked dominant since April, Rays bats are very hot obviously against quality pitchers the Rays tt over looks like free money what am I missing

[posey]

Over 3.5 for a TTlooks okay IMO.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Tough call fading hot Rays but hate the spot for Tampa 1st gm back from a long road trip and playing late Sunday gm. Kc not as hot but have not been terrible lately either. Shields usually gets good run support as well and if Kc has a late lead and that b.p. being so good.....

[RollinDo]

All this discussion should make people just back off this game.
Why are people focusing on this game? It's a coin flip.
Shields sucks lately, so why back that with the fact Rays ate hot.
Rays in a let - down spot, so why back them tonight?

[ithinkiamgood]

Wish we had people giving their thoughts like this on every single matchup of everyday it would only help to decide what to fade/follow even more , I mean im the worst i usually just make a thread and dont even give any reasoning lol

[posey]

All this discussion should make people just back off this game.
Why are people focusing on this game? It's a coin flip.
Shields sucks lately, so why back that with the fact Rays ate hot.
Rays in a let - down spot, so why back them tonight?

You give a reason why one could possibly back the Royals.
The Royals are +113 at Pinnacle (at least they have been a few mins ago) and if we consider it a coinflip you got some value there.

[ithinkiamgood]

Rays offense should have no problem scoring over 3.5 thats the most confident play

[Big Bear]

Lean is with Royals here. Ordorizzi does walk too many people and he doesn't benefit from a lot of run support. Rays played a late game last night. Royals played an early game. Got into St Petes way before the rays did. Royals at + seems like the better play

Other then that, pretty tough card imo

but Price going deep in the game did give the bullpen a rest so that is a + for the Rays.

[Big Bear]

Wish we had people giving their thoughts like this on every single matchup of everyday it would only help to decide what to fade/follow even more , I mean im the worst i usually just make a thread and dont even give any reasoning lol

i agree. Lets start some other discussions about the rest of the card...

[TwoWays]

royals in a landslide 3-1

[YourMomWasHere]

KC is the play here guys.

[Bullywully]

This is a coin flip seriously. you can make arguments for both teams and you are always right. Tampa bay hot.. why bet against them? Kasas city better pitcher with good odds, why bet against them? you see, you're always right. in the end you just flip a coin...

[Ronald S.]

i agree. Lets start some other discussions about the rest of the card...

Anyone like Angels -1.5? Jays can't score. They went something like 0/20 with RISP against Oakland. Gascan happ going against a team that crushes lefties. Weaver on the mound with an extra days rest.

Weaver on 4 days rest: 3.15 ERA 1.135 WHIP .234/.285/.376
Weaver on 5 days rest: 3.65 ERA 1.199 WHIP .242/.296/.397
Weaver on 6 days rest: 2.52 ERA 1.015 WHIP .208/.265/.320

[Zenyatta 19-1]

Just talked to Jim Hi--ey ( rays pitching coach) beware, this odorizzi is having problems with his stuff right now. shaky

[Zenyatta 19-1]

oh yeah and he said they got in really early in the morning..so be careful everyone

[Bullywully]

I bet The rays confidence is SKY high, question is will they score enough runs to cover the runs they give up with Odorizzi?

[Zenyatta 19-1]

For anyone questioning if I really text him....I do know him personally

[dkimmett1877]

Hi guys i'm new on the forum,

This game looks like it could go either way but I'm confident, regardless of the result, that The Rays can score 4 runs against Shields.

Bet : Tampa Bay Over 3.5 runs

Good luck

[RavensFan2k3]

Just talked to Jim Hi--ey ( rays pitching coach) beware, this odorizzi is having problems with his stuff right now. shaky

I guess I should feel more confident about my Royals play?

[Zenyatta 19-1]

I guess I should feel more confident about my Royals play?

Doesnt mean anything to me imo because it's baseball. Anyone can have a spectacular game. Just relaying what I have heard

[RavensFan2k3]

Doesnt mean anything to me imo because it's baseball. Anyone can have a spectacular game. Just relaying what I have heard

True, BOL on your plays tonight