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    Who's pounding the Rays

    Rays making a playoff push, 7 straight wins
    Hellickson is having a below avg year. but he has success vs the Jays.

    JEREMY HELLICKSON vs. TORONTO since 1997
    HELLICKSON is 5-2 when starting against TORONTO with an ERA of 2.90 and a WHIP of 1.229.
    His team's record is 6-5 (+0.1 units) in these starts. The UNDER is 5-5. (-0.8 units)
    JEREMY HELLICKSON recent starts vs. TORONTO
    Date Opponent Score Line Total Result Dec IP R ER H HR BB SO Opp Starter
    8/16/2013 TORONTO 5-4 -140 7.5 Win,Over 6 3 3 9 0 1 3 DICKEY(R)
    7/20/2013 at TORONTO 4-3 -105 9 Win,Under W 5 2 2 5 1 3 3 BUEHRLE(L)
    6/24/2013 TORONTO 4-1 -140 8.5 Win,Under W 7 0 0 1 0 4 4 ROGERS(R)

    The 2 guys who's has rocked Hellboy is out of the lineup(Jose Bautista and
    Edwin Encarnacion)



    I think the linesmakers set this line low because of Hellickson has been bad in his recent starts.
    JEREMY HELLICKSON - Season Statistics in Games Started
    Starter Statistics Team Records
    ERA WHIP W-L G IP IP/S R ER H HR BB SO W-L Units O-U
    All Games 5.16 1.341 12-9 31 169.3 - 97 97 179 24 48 130 - - -
    All Starts 5.23 1.353 11-9 30 167 5.6 97 97 178 24 48 128 17-13 +2.1 14-14
    Road Starts 5.58 1.450 6-6 15 80.7 5.4 50 50 91 11 26 56 6-9 -3.2 6-7
    Last 3 Starts 5.40 1.350 1-1 3 13.3 4.4 8 8 12 4 6 12 2-1 +1 1-2

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    I cant trust Hellickson

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    line so low got me second guessing myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    I cant trust Hellickson
    yeah, he has been total horseshit this year...but he needs to step up and pitches a gems vs the weak Jays lineup.

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    I also read that Dickey's knuckler is not as effective in a dome, his road and home numbers are day and night, he's giving up nearly 5 runs at home

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    -- Hellickson is 1-3, 7.53 in his last five starts. Dickey is 1-1, 3.98 in his last three outings.

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    -- Tampa Bay won 12 of its last 15 games.
    -- Blue Jays are 5-11 in their last 16 games.

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    I didnt realize Jeremy Hellickson was pitching in 1997

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    Good luck man

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    Good luck man
    I'm still deciding, worry this might be a trap line of the night...public all over the Rays

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    Yeah I might sprinkle on the Jays just as a hellickson fade. Also still deciding. I like Boston tonight though.

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    FYI: dickey threw a 3 hitter vs TB IN A DOME earlier this year

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    Agree with riffraff ....even though Rays are hot, I cannot trust Hellickson. Those stats are kind of skewed because he's got non starter bullpen quality stuff nowadays. Gascan waiting to happen. Plenty of other teams that are in the playoff hunt to choose from tonight with better pitchers.

    Good luck though Heineken.

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    Thanks for the inputs sub-forum grinders

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    I decided to pass on the game

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    Good choice man. Hope BJs come thru

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    Good thing you didnt take them tonight, Heineken. Rays were the worst bet of all the playoff hunt teams tonight. Never trust Hellickson, half the pitcher he was from a few years ago.

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    fellas, really happy I lay off this game

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