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    Steroids: Did Albert Pujols or Miguel Cabrera ever use??

    I say yes. During the steroid era all power hitters were doing it, I don't see how these guys weren't apart of it.

    They were just smart enough to stop when testing began and had already reaped the benefits of muscle and mass gain

    There are more guys in MLB who used to use than we realize, it's not just the guys who got caught or admitted to it

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    Miguel is clean. Only thing he does is drink Cognac.

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    All baseball players are presumed to be users.

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    remember brady anderson hitting 50 home runs? do you think this guy juiced?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    remember brady anderson hitting 50 home runs? do you think this guy juiced?
    That's a no-brainer

    There are those out there who make a case for Miggy and Albert bering clean though...

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    both are still on it

    just undetectable shit

    they all are

    melky is the only one that got caught

    5-10% of league not on some type of PED's

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    honestly, not sure but there's a good possibility they are clean. they've never hit over 50 home runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Miguel is clean. Only thing he does is drink Cognac.
    doubt it man. he may be clean now, but I think at some point he was juicing. Probably why he got fat lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    both are still on it

    just undetectable shit

    they all are

    melky is the only one that got caught

    5-10% of league not on some type of PED's
    Melky

    U heard about his fake website ordeal right??

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    hgh is not steroids, so yes on one or the other

    plus both are older than what they say

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    hgh is not steroids, so yes on one or the other

    plus both are older than what they say
    that's for sure. pujols looks and moves around like a 40yo. he ain't no 32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    that's for sure. pujols looks and moves around like a 40yo. he ain't no 32.
    Falsified birth certificate lol
    Angels could be fukked. 9 more years. Could you imagine paying $25 mil to some broke down 45 yr old?

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    Of course...remember guys like Andy Pettitte never failed a drug test.

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    Clean

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    Pujols used them. Cabrera is clean.

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    What does everyone say now?

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    I think Miggy is clean. Broke into the majors very young and has been taking at a high rate ever since. No can say for certain about anyone though the past 20 years. The only Hall of Famers I'm pretty sure were clean during that era were Pedro, Griffy Jr and Greg Maddux.

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    Everyone did,,many will still do. It is very hard to get caught..labs ahead of the testing. I wish I can take it.
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    Br0nxer gets it

    Br0nxer's gonna Br0nxer

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    lots of guys are clean and are just good hitters and pitchers

    shame you can't tell anymore

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    show us pics of Jordan in 1984 and in 1998

    see any changes??? oh i wonder if it is just a guy changing his body over the course of 15 years of playing, working out... and getting older

    or was Jordan juicing in the NBA in the 90's

    compare Kobe in 97 to him now

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    Its all relative, many doing it so playing field almost equal.

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    They all do

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    Chris Davis?

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    Pujols possibly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    remember brady anderson hitting 50 home runs? do you think this guy juiced?

    Yes, he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron View Post
    show us pics of Jordan in 1984 and in 1998

    see any changes??? oh i wonder if it is just a guy changing his body over the course of 15 years of playing, working out... and getting older

    or was Jordan juicing in the NBA in the 90's

    compare Kobe in 97 to him now
    Kobe doesn't even look much different?

    There's a big difference between gaining some weight and your entire body composition changing.

    Before and after photos very similar to Sosa and Bonds.
    Last edited by PAYTON20; 07-23-13 at 09:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAYTON20 View Post
    Kobe doesn't even look much different?

    There's a big difference between gaining some weight and your entire body composition changing.

    Before and after photos very similar to Sosa and Bonds.
    I think Miggy is just fat

    Bonds, Sosa, of course they looked crazy

    Who knows... bust them all for all I care

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    I doubt Kobe took them
    Nba different type of skill also
    It could hurt them but who the fuk knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron View Post
    show us pics of Jordan in 1984 and in 1998

    see any changes??? oh i wonder if it is just a guy changing his body over the course of 15 years of playing, working out... and getting older

    or was Jordan juicing in the NBA in the 90's

    compare Kobe in 97 to him now
    don't misinterpret what I typed... I was NOT saying MJ or Kobe used peds

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    Pujols definitely.....Miggy probably

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