[Big Bear]

Gonna be in be in Vegas in 2 weeks...
who should I drop the hammer on?

[Big Bear]

For a Futures bet ofcourse.

Remember that dude that put $250 on the Cardinals
to win the world series last year? he won like 250,000


Speaking of the Cardinals is Chris Carpenter coming back?

[k22t]

Washington Nationals.. Book it

[Walulu]

Like the Reds, good team all the way around. Pacing to have home field as well.

[Big Bear]

Cincinnati Reds	3/1
Washington Nationals	7/2
San Francisco Giants	7/2
Los Angeles Dodgers	4/1
Atlanta Braves	5/1
St Louis Cardinals	8/1
Pittsburgh Pirates	13/1
Arizona Diamondbacks	17/1
Philadelphia Phillies	35/1
New York Mets	50/1
Milwaukee Brewers	100/1
Miami Marlins	200/1
Houston Astros	400/1
San Diego Padres	500/1
Colorado Rockies	500/1
Chicago Cubs	500/1

[Big Bear]

those are odds for NL pennant

[Big Bear]

Odds to Win 2012 American League Pennant

Team Odds New York Yankees 9/4 Texas Rangers 14/5 Los Angeles Angels 4/1 Detroit Tigers 6/1 Chicago White Sox 7/1 Oakland Athletics 15/1 Boston Red Sox 15/1 Tampa Bay Rays 15/1 Baltimore Orioles 25/1 Toronto Blue Jays 30/1 Cleveland Indians 40/1 Seattle Mariners 500/1 Kansas City Royals 500/1 Minnesota Twins 500/1

[Big Bear]

Odds to Win 2012 World Series

Team Odds New York Yankees 4/1 Texas Rangers 5/1 Los Angeles Angels 6/1 Washington Nationals 7/1 Cincinnati Reds 10/1 San Francisco Giants 10/1 Atlanta Braves 12/1 Detroit Tigers 12/1 Chicago White Sox 12/1 Los Angeles Dodgers 12/1 St Louis Cardinals 18/1 Oakland Athletics 25/1 Boston Red Sox 30/1 Tampa Bay Rays 30/1 Pittsburgh Pirates 30/1 Arizona Diamondbacks 40/1 Baltimore Orioles 50/1 Toronto Blue Jays 60/1 Philadelphia Phillies 80/1 New York Mets 100/1 Cleveland Indians 100/1 Milwaukee Brewers 200/1 Miami Marlins 400/1 Seattle Mariners 1000/1 San Diego Padres 1000/1 Houston Astros 1000/1 Colorado Rockies 1000/1 Kansas City Royals 1000/1 Minnesota Twins 1000/1 Chicago Cubs 1000/1

[Ratzz]

hmm.. tuff call..

[Ockert12]

Rangers

[Cappinpicks]

A'S

[broadway6]

why not throw some cash on Pirates to win the pennant?

[lunchbawks]

NL has homefield

I say Cinci has a real shot

[Big Bear]

Yeah the Reds at 10-1 is tempting.

is Joey Votto definitely coming back?

[EVPlus]

I'd stay AWAY from the halos. Player for player, one of the most talented teams in the league. However, Scoscia is not the kind of manager that can go all the way. And the team, as a whole, has a talent for giving away leads.

I'd also stay AWAY from the Giants. The hitting just isn't there and we all know the status of their best closer, Wilson. Also, Timmy, IMO, is still a question mark. And Zito...enough said. This leaves Cain, Voglesong, and Bumgardner to do the heavy lifting. Just too many ways in which they can fail.

I've now developed a bad taste for the Cards. Had them for a unit last night and they made a guy returning from triple A look like Jared Weaver pitching at home. Matheny also showed poor decision making by leaving Lynn on the mound too long last night. Instead of taking him out and preserving a 2-1 lead, he allowed Lynn to squander it away. And then, this sh1t stain excuse for a manager replaces him with ANOTHER righty with a 4+ ERA. Anyone who watched the game saw how that ended. Once the Rockies built up momentum, you can tell the Cards pretty much mailed it in. Clubs who don't get the easy Ws when they're supposed to will just lose ground to better teams. And before they know it, others are in the play offs while they're on the golf course.

[Big Bear]

Who has a better chance to win the world series the Braves or the Tigers?

[Big Bear]

My girlfriend said Tigers are going to win it.

[You mad bro]

yankees only if their pitching can hold up

[Big Bear]

yeah but yankees are like 3-1 odds no fun in that

[PaperTrail07]

balt and toronto for odds purposes...nationals b/c of pitching and they are solid and prob be playing the reds...

[PaperTrail07]

who are good....but has iffy pitching

[erkanua]

Nats is definitely the best shot in whole list.

I think Rangers will come to the WS from AL but Angels have the value there.

[freak_sports]

Tigers

[Big Bear]

The Braves really do have a complete team. Good starting pitching, Good bullpen , Potent line-up.

BTW I have always hated the Atlanta Braves so i am not biased here. I thought the Braves had a chance last year but they didn't matchup with the phillies well b/c the Braves didn't have the LHP to matchup with Utely, Howard, Rollins etc...
However we all know what happened both of those teams choked.

Braves do have potential though. Hard to ignore this pitching rotation of Hudson, Malholm, Sheets, Minor

Jurgens and Hanson suck now but that bullpen is legit and they have firepower with Jones, Heyward, Ugla, Freeman, McCann and I am also impressed with the new 3rd basemen that fills in for Chipper. The hispanic fella don't know his name he's got pop from the left side.

[Big Bear]

I just don't think the Nationals have the experience to win a
world series. Give them another 2 years or so.

[Ockert12]

The Braves really do have a complete team. Good starting pitching, Good bullpen , Potent line-up.

BTW I have always hated the Atlanta Braves so i am not biased here. I thought the Braves had a chance last year but they didn't matchup with the phillies well b/c the Braves didn't have the LHP to matchup with Utely, Howard, Rollins etc...
However we all know what happened both of those teams choked.

Braves do have potential though. Hard to ignore this pitching rotation of Hudson, Malholm, Sheets, Minor

Jurgens and Hanson suck now but that bullpen is legit and they have firepower with Jones, Heyward, Ugla, Freeman, McCann and I am also impressed with the new 3rd basemen that fills in for Chipper. The hispanic fella don't know his name he's got pop from the left side.

The Braves always fold or choke late in the year or in the playoffs. It's only a matter of time.

The Tigers can win the World series. Only team in the way is Texas.

[Big Bear]

Yankees could get in way of Tigers too. If only Verlander could pitch every game....
Need Fister, Porcello, and Sanchez to all get hot.

[Ockert12]

Tigers play the yanks well.. they won't be a problem if they meet in the playoffs.

Yanks starting pitching is up in the air at best and their ace has struggles out at Comerica

[Mantle7]

I'd stay AWAY from the halos. Player for player, one of the most talented teams in the league. However, Scoscia is not the kind of manager that can go all the way. And the team, as a whole, has a talent for giving away leads.

I'd also stay AWAY from the Giants. The hitting just isn't there and we all know the status of their best closer, Wilson. Also, Timmy, IMO, is still a question mark. And Zito...enough said. This leaves Cain, Voglesong, and Bumgardner to do the heavy lifting. Just too many ways in which they can fail.

I've now developed a bad taste for the Cards. Had them for a unit last night and they made a guy returning from triple A look like Jared Weaver pitching at home. Matheny also showed poor decision making by leaving Lynn on the mound too long last night. Instead of taking him out and preserving a 2-1 lead, he allowed Lynn to squander it away. And then, this sh1t stain excuse for a manager replaces him with ANOTHER righty with a 4+ ERA. Anyone who watched the game saw how that ended. Once the Rockies built up momentum, you can tell the Cards pretty much mailed it in. Clubs who don't get the easy Ws when they're supposed to will just lose ground to better teams. And before they know it, others are in the play offs while they're on the golf course.

Now when you sady Scosia isn't the type of manager that could take his team all the way-you do realize that he was a ring already right? Scosia is one of the best Managers in the league, Man. They have the Rookie of the Year, MVP, and Cy Young winner on the same team. If Scosia doesn't send C.J Wilson back to Triple A or anywhere but the mound Angels have a great shot.

I think it'll be Washington and Los Angeles Angels playing the world series this year.

[Big Bear]

Angels do have the talent. They need to fix that bullpen though. Too many blown leads

[Big Bear]

I've pretty much made up my mind on the Tigers. I expect the odds to drop
From 12-1 to 10-1 in the next couple weeks

[venture]

Cincinnati Reds	3/1
Washington Nationals	7/2
San Francisco Giants	7/2
Los Angeles Dodgers	4/1
Atlanta Braves	5/1
St Louis Cardinals	8/1
Pittsburgh Pirates	13/1
Arizona Diamondbacks	17/1
Philadelphia Phillies	35/1
New York Mets	50/1
Milwaukee Brewers	100/1
Miami Marlins	200/1
Houston Astros	400/1
San Diego Padres	500/1
Colorado Rockies	500/1
Chicago Cubs	500/1

How is Hou 400-1, can they mathematically even make it? I will give 10,000 to 1 odds they don't win NL penet.

[LostBankroll]

BALTIMORE ORIOLES 50/1.. ANYBODY HAVE THE odds posted BEFORE THE SEASON FOR BALTIE???

[ColdBeerHere]

Just ask yourself "who has the best pitching top to bottom?" That will tell you who will win the WS..../thread

[Big Bear]

Tigers been playing some bad baseball lately. Might have to go with the Yankees on this. I know its square but it will probably hit.